How many plants should I keep going to be able to smoke a half ounce a week

[whitebb2727]

You avoided responding cuz u know you were just talking out your ass....i had already started my cycle was 9 weeks.

So you produce autos in half that time? You must be the best breeder on earth, please sell the seeds for your 4.5 week wonder plant.

I'm not saying "I" produce the pound in literally half the time. I never weigh because I don't sell.

I was explaining that grams per watt is an inaccurate term. You cant just take and divide your grams grown by the wattage of the light.

You have to add the kilowatt hours used then figure it out. I know it cost more to grow an auto. I could care less. I'm not an auto only grower. I also grow photo plants.

You are taking this like I'm saying you are a bad grower or something. I'm not.

I'm just saying you are repeating forum myth.

 

[purplehays1]

Hoe many times have you over ripened a plant? You haven't. You are spewing myth.

You would be surprised at how many strains you can over ripen an get pollen. It is a survival mechanism.

You really don't know that much about cannabis. You read something and then repeat it.

Using CS or over ripening does not cause hermi traits to pass on. CS just blocks the flowering hormone and allows pollen sacs to form.

Gram per watt means nothing as you just admitted so quit saying it. Its grams per kilowatt used.

I don't really care if I run my light longer. I can leave my 432 watt t5 on 20 hours a day for $20 a month. No biggie.


You need to ask @RM3 about true hermies in cannabis.

I'm not trying to say anything except you are spewing myth without any actual hands on experience on the subject. Unless you have over ripened a plant and made seeds then grew them out then you don't know.

I am also saying that autos are bigger and more potent than a few years back. I used to not like them. They are in the 20% thc range now. Not that thc is everything. Lower thc plants can rock you harder sometimes.

I am also saying that some of us personal growers don't really care if we run lights 18 hours a day.

You prefer your way and photos. Cool. I like them to. Here is the thing. Different people like different things.

Op is want to grow autos, no need to spread cannabis forum myth bullshit to change their mind.

SO EXPLAIN WHERE IM DOING MY MATH INCORRECTLY

By my calculation my yield is about the same as yours with a 400w. and a small veg area. And your yield is EXCEPTIONAL for autos. But saying your producing more g/killhr with autos than you could with photos is ludicrous. With a 600w you shoud be producing a lb every 8-9 weeks depending on strain, not 83 days. And thats a SAFE guess, id venture to say some people are producing 2+ lbs every 9 weeks with photos. RUNNING LIGHTS 12 HRS A DAY.

Ill anticipate no response to this either...

 

[purplehays1]

I'm not saying "I" produce the pound in literally half the time. I never weigh because I don't sell.

I was explaining that grams per watt is an inaccurate term. You cant just take and divide your grams grown by the wattage of the light.

You have to add the kilowatt hours used then figure it out. I know it cost more to grow an auto. I could care less. I'm not an auto only grower. I also grow photo plants.

You are taking this like I'm saying you are a bad grower or something. I'm not.

I'm just saying you are repeating forum myth.

OH OK sorry, i guess when you said "How long does it take to grow that pound? If I do it in half the time which is better?" i assumed you ment yourself by I. So in fact your grow takes 20 days longer....and produces less. Sort of missleading wouldnt you say?

g/killowatt is just retarded because we dont have an itemized energy bill saying how much the grow room is using.

 

[whitebb2727]

SO EXPLAIN WHERE IM DOING MY MATH INCORRECTLY

By my calculation my yield is about the same as yours with a 400w. and a small veg area. And your yield is EXCEPTIONAL for autos. But saying your producing more g/killhr with autos than you could with photos is ludicrous. With a 600w you shoud be producing a lb every 8-9 weeks depending on strain, not 83 days. And thats a SAFE guess, id venture to say some people are producing 2+ lbs every 9 weeks with photos. RUNNING LIGHTS 12 HRS A DAY.

Ill anticipate no response to this either...

You are misreading what I said.

Leave me out. Leave the autos out. I'm not claiming that.

Let me try this again.

If two people are growing with the same light and run the same hours and one finishes in half the time and yielded the same who did better?

Most people simply divide their final weight by the wattage of the light. That's not accurate. I may run more fans or what ever.

A person needs to take the actual power usage over the whole grow.

I think you are saying the same thing. Its just that most of the time when people say "gpw" they are using the simple math formula. Final weight divided by light watts without factoring the time in.

Edit: We understand each other now. I wasn't trying to mislead.

 

[whitebb2727]

OH OK sorry, i guess when you said "How long does it take to grow that pound? If I do it in half the time which is better?" i assumed you ment yourself by I. So in fact your grow takes 20 days longer....and produces less. Sort of missleading wouldnt you say?

g/killowatt is just retarded because we dont have an itemized energy bill saying how much the grow room is using.

They make meters to read the actual draw at the wall. Its why I hate the term gpw. Lol. Its not that simple.

 

[purplehays1]

They make meters to read the actual draw at the wall. Its why I hate the term gpw. Lol. Its not that simple.

Its only stupid when you are trying to compare autos to photos. It works fine for photos as most photos are about 9 weeks to flower and flower for 12 hrs a day, so every factor except the size of the bulb is equal. Autos are only better in one way, they dont require a separate veg area. They have almost no other benefit for indoor cannabis growing. I thought you were trying to claim that you yield higher and more consistently with autos, which is ludicrous no watter which method you are using g/w or g/killhr. Autos are great for getting multiple cycles outdoors tho.

 

[whitebb2727]

Its only stupid when you are trying to compare autos to photos. It works fine for photos as most photos are about 9 weeks to flower and flower for 12 hrs a day, so every factor except the size of the bulb is equal. Autos are only better in one way, they dont require a separate veg area. They have almost no other benefit for indoor cannabis growing. I thought you were trying to claim that you yield higher and more consistently with autos, which is ludicrous no watter which method you are using g/w or g/killhr. Autos are great for getting multiple cycles outdoors tho.

If I wanted to I could build a grow with autos that would give photos a run for their money. I cant have but so many plants.

Newer auto can hit 6-8 oz easy. One member here has autos down to a science and got over 20 zips off one auto. He was even growing autos commercially.

 

[Yodaweed]

If I wanted to I could build a grow with autos that would give photos a run for their money. I cant have but so many plants.

Newer auto can hit 6-8 oz easy. One member here has autos down to a science and got over 20 zips off one auto. He was even growing autos commercially.

Those phenos are rare and the autos that yield like that are shit quality for the most part, why even bother wasting time with those when I could run clones of my already tested plants, or pheno hunt for a new mother plant in my seed collection? I am averaging about 1 pound per 600w light with clones, and would have to run crazy numbers to even come close to that with autos and like you I live in a state where my plant count is limited....annddd it doesn't seem to make much sense to me to take a crapshoot every grow...

 

[whitebb2727]

Those phenos are rare and the autos that yield like that are shit quality for the most part, why even bother wasting time with those when I could run clones of my already tested plants, or pheno hunt for a new mother plant in my seed collection? I am averaging about 1 pound per 600w light with clones, and would have to run crazy numbers to even come close to that with autos and like you I live in a state where my plant count is limited....annddd it doesn't seem to make much sense to me to take a crapshoot every grow...

I totally get your point. I do. It's just that autos are not a crap shoot anymore. They are stable and in the 20% range now.

I used to say the same thing about autos. If you get them from a good breeder they are consistently good.

I can have four plants. That's it. It's not really practical to phenom hunt. I do it. I even have some cuts. They are with friends.

My point being that the average grower can get consistent good smoke from them. On top of that it's what the op wants to do so why not help them do it instead of telling them why it's wrong.

What you do fits your needs, what I do fits mine. You really think I would keep growing them if they are as crappy as everyone claims?

 

[hellmutt bones]

Man thats alot.. half oz a week??

 

[Jubilant]

Man thats alot.. half oz a week??

I can go through that easy, I don't think its too crazy

 

[Yodaweed]

Best way for high yields is to run clones of proven plants that got the yield, potency and quick flowering time, auto's won't ever produce what photo's can if done right.

 

[Yodaweed]

I totally get your point. I do. It's just that autos are not a crap shoot anymore. They are stable and in the 20% range now.

I used to say the same thing about autos. If you get them from a good breeder they are consistently good.

I can have four plants. That's it. It's not really practical to phenom hunt. I do it. I even have some cuts. They are with friends.

My point being that the average grower can get consistent good smoke from them. On top of that it's what the op wants to do so why not help them do it instead of telling them why it's wrong.

What you do fits your needs, what I do fits mine. You really think I would keep growing them if they are as crappy as everyone claims?

I'm growing auto's right now, I guess my auto's didn't get the memo they were suppose to yield well because they are fucking garbage, only thing keeping me from ripping them up is my girlfriend she is fond of those for some reason...(growing fast buds green crack and gorilla glue and I run both those before from clone and they are not similar at all and the clones yielded at least 10x more than these will) I was intrigued by all these outrageous claims you guys are making , they are all lies and random luck, those big yielding autos are like 1 out of 10 packs , I should have just ran clones instead but I wanted to try something different for once and I didn't really need the buds since I am really stocked up. I even put these in my hydroponics system where I can really beef plants up, my last plant yielded just over 16 oz from this same setup, these two autos might yield 2 ounces total if I am lucky and they are using two buckets and that 16 oz plant only used one.

 

[whitebb2727]

I'm growing auto's right now, I guess my auto's didn't get the memo they were suppose to yield well because they are fucking garbage, only thing keeping me from ripping them up is my girlfriend she is fond of those for some reason...(growing fast buds green crack and gorilla glue and I run both those before from clone and they are not similar at all and the clones yielded at least 10x more than these will) I was intrigued by all these outrageous claims you guys are making , they are all lies and random luck, those big yielding autos are like 1 out of 10 packs , I should have just ran clones instead but I wanted to try something different for once and I didn't really need the buds since I am really stocked up. I even put these in my hydroponics system where I can really beef plants up, my last plant yielded just over 16 oz from this same setup, these two autos might yield 2 ounces total if I am lucky and they are using two buckets and that 16 oz plant only used one.

How you figure its lies and random? Those three I showed were 3 for 3. I get that on the regular and got more going now that are going to be 30-36 inches tall.

What breeder were they from?

 

[tripleD]

I just started growing last year & my first 4 autos only produced a lil over 4oz, but with some help from guys like Justugh & Dr. Who, I got 13oz out of 4 auto's the next time around and I have been CONSISTENTLY getting 3oz per Auto ever since.
FFOF soil mixed w 20% perlite
5gal Smart Pots
Spydr600 LED Light (cycled at 18/6)
4x4 Gorilla Tent
FF Nutes
Nirvana AK48 seeds
Note: I actually get closer to 3.5oz, but I don't bother trimming the smaller buds because I always grow more than I need & I don't sell.
I love growing but I actually despise the trimming process

 

[Mohican]

So we should be using Grams per Watt per Day. I like it!

0.5 oz a week times 52 weeks = 26 oz
26 oz divided by 16 = 1.625 pounds

Should be doable. LordJin was getting amazing results every 3 months in his system from clones.
I am not an expert when it comes to Autos but I did smoke some killer Northern Lights Auto.

 

[Mohican]

Trimming is still fun if you keep your workload manageable

 

[tripleD]

Trimming is still fun if you keep your workload manageable

I don't mind Trimming as much as I did in the beginning, now that I've gotten better at it, but I'm just not a patient person when it comes to tedious work....

 

[Yodaweed]

How you figure its lies and random? Those three I showed were 3 for 3. I get that on the regular and got more going now that are going to be 30-36 inches tall.

What breeder were they from?

Fast buds green crack and gorilla glue, they look nothing like the real deal , I have grown both from clone and these are also about 2 feet tall with small yield.

 

[whitebb2727]

Fast buds green crack and gorilla glue, they look nothing like the real deal , I have grown both from clone and these are also about 2 feet tall with small yield.

Ok. They don't look like the original. That is to be expected. I mean if you get the same strain from different breeders they will look different. I would expect an auto made from any cut to look different.

I'm not making any false claims. Give me any auto seeds beside the dwarf or lowryder strains and I will grow it out to 30-36 inches.

Once again, I'm not claiming autos to be better for yield. They are on par with photos with potency with the exception of elite cuts.

Its all about preference. Once again the op wants to grow autos and I will help the op get the most out of them.



In the early days of autos they were all over the place. I'm sure if I dig back a couple yeasr in my post I would find posts of me saying they are a roll of the dice. At that time they were either really good or really bad. The last couple years autos have gotten a lot better, more stable.

When autos were created it was hard to breed the auto flower gene and keep stability. It took inbreeding them to make them stable. IBL lines can be very stable. It is common practice with any breeder trying to lock a certain trait.

The more autos have been worked the better they have gotten and the better they will get.

It makes a difference on what breeder they come from.

In order, the breedesr I like are; mephisto, Buddha (not big Buddha) and dinafem. There are some other good auto breeders that slip my mind at the moment.