born2grow1
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Yah pretty much same dimensions as mine if you run lense you will have to keep your plant shorter unless you can get the extension kit for the gorilla
My Amare, Hydroponics Hut, & SunCloak Grow
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Vato_504
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I have the extension kit just not enough ceiling space. Guess I'm going with no lenses.
Evil-Mobo
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Thanks for the info
born2grow1
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Well you can the lense but just have to keep them shorter but you won't have a problem if you just run reflectors especially with 2 pro 4 in there should be some dense nugs and weight oh and of course quality.
born2grow1
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Hey no problem I try to help others if I have the information to give happy growing
Big smo
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Forum police asking nicely to keep all referrals here but that terrible garden grow crew is allowed to promote that garage special in every thread imaginable. That's the problem. No one else has shown results with those lights and yet the most referred . Just think about that.
Vato_504
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What's crazy is that these dudes hate Amare but constantly bring Amare up. If I disliked something or someone I definitely wouldn't talk about them or a product. I guess they hate the results y'all get using the lights. Since their bootleg lights doesn't produce like Amare they'll hate y'all and the lights. That's what made me buy a Amare. Couldn't buy PLC because as a business owner you should never talk down or bad towards future and present customers. But all I can say fellas is smile at the hate and keep pumping out those monster trees and I can't wait to light up these pro4's. Bless up and grow strong!!!
Big smo
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Hell yeah man that's exactly how I feel about him. Before I heard about Amare I contacted 2 cob light companies one was gg. When I finally decided on cobs I didn't have a clue so I sent a long email with legitimate concerns and questions and ended it by asking if there was any bulk order discounts for 4 lights. The only thing I got back was "they are already on sale". Then followed by countless replies I read from other members. I guess that's how it goes here, act like a spoiled kid and people refer you.
Hybridway
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What the hecks been going on round here? I see, thanks for representing guys!
I think the haters advertise for Amare more then I represent.
Every time they talk shit, they force us to correct them with all the good things about the comp. further spreading the good word.
It would just be simple recommendations w/ a few questions answered her n there if it wasn't for the haters.
They get the good word out more then any of us actually.
This thread is for growers though.
Keep showing your results & sharing your experiences.
Thanks guys!
I think the haters advertise for Amare more then I represent.
Every time they talk shit, they force us to correct them with all the good things about the comp. further spreading the good word.
It would just be simple recommendations w/ a few questions answered her n there if it wasn't for the haters.
They get the good word out more then any of us actually.
This thread is for growers though.
Keep showing your results & sharing your experiences.
Thanks guys!
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Big smo
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Thread jack
To get a few things straight about my views on Amare trying to be unbiased as possible. First off there is an insane amount of horrible lighting options out there today. To help save these clown from buying into these companies any led or cob based panel using quality parts should never be put down. Price is the owners markup after parts/labor and that is basically irrelivent since people can price shop and buy what suites their budget. a 4 Cree cob light vs the same 4 Cree cob light with a 200 dollar price difference is still a 4 Cree cob light and a much better option than most. If someone wants to pay more for the same light then let them. My transactions with amare ended up with me getting more for less. Second is the debate about the supplemental LEDs. Numerous companies are copying the idea and many growers themselves are supplementing them too. But understand the supplemental LEDs in Amare are more geared towards veg which is lacking in the 3500k cobs. The xp-e2 and g3's are as efficient or more efficient than the cobs themselves. Cobs are a less expensive way to put efficiency into a panel. Apache tech for instance. High efficiency but with hundreds of expensive LEDs vs Fewer larger cobs.
Now I do see what allot of people might think is advertising coming from users of Amare. It is not advertising. Most folks here on Riu are here to show their grows or help others. Since there are a select bunch that use these lights with good results why is it considered a negative thing to promote what works. Then people say it's to much. Should it matter if 10 of 20 questions are answered with Amare? Well what is the number that's considered fair and not over promoting? Why is it that the DIY based production panels are allowed to be showcased in thread after thread without any negative comments?
I have said it before and will say it again. The Amare panels are not intended to be the most efficient. They are made to grow and that is proven in every journal I have seen to date. This is a growing forum. Not a spec sheet forum and that's what it's turning into. The guys who have done the most tests and seem to have the loudest comments also seem to grow in the smallest closets. Therefor making a large percentage of the talk here more about data then growing. I completely respect that and feel that's how things in this industry have evolved so much. But this is not the end all solution to growing. Yes to efficiency but also yes to what works keeping efficiency in close consideration.
As far as quality goes I dont think there is a panel sold that is as nice as the pro3&4. My pro4's have 4 meanwell drivers in them. Copper core hestsinks. Super quiet and efficient fans. Top bin LEDs and cobs. The best of the best but again see negative comments since the cobs are driven harder making them 7% less efficient. I'd bet any money it will GROW a hell of allot better watt for watt then any other panel out. Constant shit talk over the 7% when growing is their whole purpose. This viscous circle of light and manufacturer bashing should end. It deters growers that should have a fair shot at picking what they like. Is amare the number one? Is plc the number one, go green, northern ext. The bottom line is they are all great lights and all deserve a fair shot to be recommended when a grower is in need of help.
My biggest complaint is the people that bring DIY into the mix. This is not some new knowledge that DIY is cheaper or that anyone could build a light to replace an Amare or the rest. Even done a lot cheaper but that's not the point. Not everyone wants to build an erector set or has the skills to do so. That's why there are now hundreds of lighting companies selling lights. Very very stupid comments about DIY vs production.
I am personally sold on Amare by the quality. Quality of parts and build quality. No shotty craftsmanship like there is a lot of today. The direct contact with the down to earth knowledgeable owner. The parts and combination of parts used. All those damn switches toI LOL. I just feel it's unfair to Victor and the rest of the community to have this bash fest everytime someone mentions a panel that may have 1 or 2 things about it someone else here might not like. Allot of time, research and development went into these. A hell of allot more then any other light I see sold today and again to see people bash the shit out of someone else's hard work is really disgusting. I'm still here standing up for what I feel is a great product and great company. I don't need more lights, shit I even have one in storage since I don't have the room. My intentions are not to deep throat the owner to get a deal my intention is to ease the hostility of the great community that has taught me so much and to help give every company a fair shot. If you don't like the referral then offer what you feel is the best. Sorry hybrid
To get a few things straight about my views on Amare trying to be unbiased as possible. First off there is an insane amount of horrible lighting options out there today. To help save these clown from buying into these companies any led or cob based panel using quality parts should never be put down. Price is the owners markup after parts/labor and that is basically irrelivent since people can price shop and buy what suites their budget. a 4 Cree cob light vs the same 4 Cree cob light with a 200 dollar price difference is still a 4 Cree cob light and a much better option than most. If someone wants to pay more for the same light then let them. My transactions with amare ended up with me getting more for less. Second is the debate about the supplemental LEDs. Numerous companies are copying the idea and many growers themselves are supplementing them too. But understand the supplemental LEDs in Amare are more geared towards veg which is lacking in the 3500k cobs. The xp-e2 and g3's are as efficient or more efficient than the cobs themselves. Cobs are a less expensive way to put efficiency into a panel. Apache tech for instance. High efficiency but with hundreds of expensive LEDs vs Fewer larger cobs.
Now I do see what allot of people might think is advertising coming from users of Amare. It is not advertising. Most folks here on Riu are here to show their grows or help others. Since there are a select bunch that use these lights with good results why is it considered a negative thing to promote what works. Then people say it's to much. Should it matter if 10 of 20 questions are answered with Amare? Well what is the number that's considered fair and not over promoting? Why is it that the DIY based production panels are allowed to be showcased in thread after thread without any negative comments?
I have said it before and will say it again. The Amare panels are not intended to be the most efficient. They are made to grow and that is proven in every journal I have seen to date. This is a growing forum. Not a spec sheet forum and that's what it's turning into. The guys who have done the most tests and seem to have the loudest comments also seem to grow in the smallest closets. Therefor making a large percentage of the talk here more about data then growing. I completely respect that and feel that's how things in this industry have evolved so much. But this is not the end all solution to growing. Yes to efficiency but also yes to what works keeping efficiency in close consideration.
As far as quality goes I dont think there is a panel sold that is as nice as the pro3&4. My pro4's have 4 meanwell drivers in them. Copper core hestsinks. Super quiet and efficient fans. Top bin LEDs and cobs. The best of the best but again see negative comments since the cobs are driven harder making them 7% less efficient. I'd bet any money it will GROW a hell of allot better watt for watt then any other panel out. Constant shit talk over the 7% when growing is their whole purpose. This viscous circle of light and manufacturer bashing should end. It deters growers that should have a fair shot at picking what they like. Is amare the number one? Is plc the number one, go green, northern ext. The bottom line is they are all great lights and all deserve a fair shot to be recommended when a grower is in need of help.
My biggest complaint is the people that bring DIY into the mix. This is not some new knowledge that DIY is cheaper or that anyone could build a light to replace an Amare or the rest. Even done a lot cheaper but that's not the point. Not everyone wants to build an erector set or has the skills to do so. That's why there are now hundreds of lighting companies selling lights. Very very stupid comments about DIY vs production.
I am personally sold on Amare by the quality. Quality of parts and build quality. No shotty craftsmanship like there is a lot of today. The direct contact with the down to earth knowledgeable owner. The parts and combination of parts used. All those damn switches toI LOL. I just feel it's unfair to Victor and the rest of the community to have this bash fest everytime someone mentions a panel that may have 1 or 2 things about it someone else here might not like. Allot of time, research and development went into these. A hell of allot more then any other light I see sold today and again to see people bash the shit out of someone else's hard work is really disgusting. I'm still here standing up for what I feel is a great product and great company. I don't need more lights, shit I even have one in storage since I don't have the room. My intentions are not to deep throat the owner to get a deal my intention is to ease the hostility of the great community that has taught me so much and to help give every company a fair shot. If you don't like the referral then offer what you feel is the best. Sorry hybrid
nogod_
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TBH it's less about folks taking shots at the product and more about the obnoxious, relentless light pusher.
Everyone appreciates a quality documented grow but clearly from the legions of folks irritated by Hybridway, you have got to wonder if maybe he is at least partially responsible for drawing all this ire.
I'm sure the lights grow ganja and I'm sure the owner is great to work with. Unfortunately the owner's head cheerleader and the face of his company on this forum is a tactless baffoon.
They say any publicity is good publicity...in this case, I think Amare would be helped significantly if Hybridway grew more and talked less. Shame really.
Everyone appreciates a quality documented grow but clearly from the legions of folks irritated by Hybridway, you have got to wonder if maybe he is at least partially responsible for drawing all this ire.
I'm sure the lights grow ganja and I'm sure the owner is great to work with. Unfortunately the owner's head cheerleader and the face of his company on this forum is a tactless baffoon.
They say any publicity is good publicity...in this case, I think Amare would be helped significantly if Hybridway grew more and talked less. Shame really.
Big smo
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Omg more times then you know. I can say it will be thorough with allot of specs not only about the offered lights but the light performance. As you know that does take time but it's been a little longer then most would expect.
NoGod I really don't think that is fair to hybrid or Victor. Hybrids a good guy that is very passionate about growing and has done a lot of good for the forum. Not everyone is a master grower and there are probably hundreds of lurkers reading his threads learning. It is fun to post a fat nug shot every once and awhile but I feel the ones who stick around documenting grows like him or offering help and posting real knowledge like cobbit are the ones who deserve credit. It's not about him or you or me it's about the upcoming growers in need of help. If personalities clash it is again unfair to everyone else involved and I think that is more what that is about.
Hybridway
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LOL! All I do is grow. That's why I have the right to talk. It's called speaking from experience. Something not practiced much In this led section unfortunately.
Those who do have my respect, those that don't are found dissing me or Amare it seems.
It's all good though, I love you haters!
OLD MOTHER SATIVA
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nah hybrid way nogods is right..
we likes you
we likes yer light
we likes yer grow ..
just feel you try WAY too hard on the "its amare" thang dude..[we get it...]
there is very very little bashing..just relentless ..free A _ _ m_ e promo..
sorry big smo that last epistle was just too long..
all the best in grow land
we likes you
we likes yer light
we likes yer grow ..
just feel you try WAY too hard on the "its amare" thang dude..[we get it...]
there is very very little bashing..just relentless ..free A _ _ m_ e promo..
sorry big smo that last epistle was just too long..
all the best in grow land
Big smo
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I'm happy you didn't read it then.
Hybridway
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Not you to bro.
Ok, check it! The haters make it seem this way by stating things that are not true about the company to get a rise out of me.
It usually starts with a simple recommendation on my part (which I have every right to do, especially seeing how I actually own them & have compared them to my hps) that soon leads to some guy saying things that are totally not true. Like false #'s or parts for example. I counter that with the truth. From there it just gets outta hand on their part.
It's a good either way. I will continue to buy them, use them, & post my experience & results.
I wonder how they're going to react when I start the Amare Par & info. thread. Haha! That thread's going to be full of facts & as we all know, these haters n shills hate facts pertaining to a good light that's not a vendored cob light.
Well, it is what it is. At least
I don't see anyone jumping on the SunCloak hate wagon anymore. Kindve hard I guess when I just grew 2#'s off 600w of Cloak. When I first got it these guys were saying foul shit about it. Not anymore.
Guess I'm going to have to actually try next grow with my Amares so that the haul is so impressive these guys can't talk shit.
Been dying to get a real grow in with my Amares anyways. Hopefully this next one will be it. The past 2 have just been experimental in a sense.
Wait till I have 350-400 Amare watts a plant. Then they won't be saying much. That's for sure.
Every grow I've seen from the Amare users on my thread here is impressive too.
Amare & SunCloak are the only 2 led grow lights for me.
You know the Pro-9 & other Amares are the shit when you see other companies copying them everyday.
Oh, the most overlooked fact about this Amare recommendation thing going on. Have you guys ever noticed that 99.5% of those who seem to have a problem with my recommendations don't ever post a picture of a plant or light? Never mind a grow. So, to be honest, I could care less what they think.
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Big smo
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That last epistle was to long hybrid... lol jk
I think a website would do allot of good. Not knocking anyone just saying it's been awhile and I do look like a fool at times when people come to me asking where I bought my lights. The reply, send an email sounds a little odd when they can't find a website. There could also be some sort of rep with the info not listed or to assist people like the other vendors. Our journals aren't enough and regularly people are deterred, facts get mixed and everything turns bad. Maybe an advert logo below your name would work hybrid. Riu is a big place and allot of interest starts here people just need answers
I bet if these few things were cleared up everything would settle
I think a website would do allot of good. Not knocking anyone just saying it's been awhile and I do look like a fool at times when people come to me asking where I bought my lights. The reply, send an email sounds a little odd when they can't find a website. There could also be some sort of rep with the info not listed or to assist people like the other vendors. Our journals aren't enough and regularly people are deterred, facts get mixed and everything turns bad. Maybe an advert logo below your name would work hybrid. Riu is a big place and allot of interest starts here people just need answers
I bet if these few things were cleared up everything would settle