My 8hr flowering experiment

torontoke

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Atf x ssdd were showing lots of stretch so I up potted them to 2gal and buried them halfway. image.png image.png
I never ran straight ssdd but judging by the size of these fans I'd say they are leaning more to the ssdd side
 

torontoke

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Can't wait to move and get settled.
Got a phone call the other day from a buddy telling me that he went to shake the tarp I had above my girls up north and they were gone.
6 6' tall plants that weren't even close to being done.
Pisses me off to think that no one will get anything worthwhile from them yet some asshat thought they were still worth stealing.

So since this is not the first time this has happened to me I'm 100% never putting another plant outside.
 

ttystikk

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Can't wait to move and get settled.
Got a phone call the other day from a buddy telling me that he went to shake the tarp I had above my girls up north and they were gone.
6 6' tall plants that weren't even close to being done.
Pisses me off to think that no one will get anything worthwhile from them yet some asshat thought they were still worth stealing.

So since this is not the first time this has happened to me I'm 100% never putting another plant outside.
Unless it's your own property, at least.
 

OldMedUser

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Also need a different fan in this thing the two 4" pc fans just weren't keeping up.
Can a 6" inline be turned down enough to not sound like a plane landing
I use a DIY fan controller on a 6" inline fan and it's doing the job running at half speed and is way quieter. You don't want a light dimmer but one that's for ceiling fans. I just put it in an metal electrical box, should have used a plastic one, and wired in cords on either end. To buy all the parts is probably as much or more than buying a speed controller online but I had all the parts other than the controller which was about $12.

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How does this Gas Light thing work? I expect to be running close to 3K worth of lighting soon and with the high cost of power here in northern Alberta I wouldn't mind saving a few kwh if I can and still get good results.

Great thread! :clap:

:peace:
 

torontoke

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I use a DIY fan controller on a 6" inline fan and it's doing the job running at half speed and is way quieter. You don't want a light dimmer but one that's for ceiling fans. I just put it in an metal electrical box, should have used a plastic one, and wired in cords on either end. To buy all the parts is probably as much or more than buying a speed controller online but I had all the parts other than the controller which was about $12.

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How does this Gas Light thing work? I expect to be running close to 3K worth of lighting soon and with the high cost of power here in northern Alberta I wouldn't mind saving a few kwh if I can and still get good results.

Great thread! :clap:

:peace:
Thanks bud
Gas light routine or 12:1 is
A 13 hr veg cycle instead of the conventional 18 or 24.
So it's 12 on 5.5 off 1 on 5.5 off
Saves at least 5 hrs a day minimum while keeping the plants in veg.
 

OldMedUser

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Thanks bud
Gas light routine or 12:1 is
A 13 hr veg cycle instead of the conventional 18 or 24.
So it's 12 on 5.5 off 1 on 5.5 off
Saves at least 5 hrs a day minimum while keeping the plants in veg.
Thanks. I knew about that schedule but never heard it called that. Just sounds like it couldn't grow as well as a full 18 hours to me. I use lower light levels and restrict nutes to stall plants when I want to slow them down and it just seems like gaslighting will do much the same thing.

Experiences?

:peace:
 

ttystikk

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Here's a twist; instead of running veg 18 on and 6 off, a friend suggested I try 6 on and 2 off, the times a day. The theory was that plants do their best growing in the first part of the day, so replicate that.

The plants- none of which are auto flowers- in this regime are remaining in veg state. No surprise but it's always nice to have confirmation, right?

They do seem to like it and grow vigorously. I see no ill effects. I noticed a slowdown in growth rates under standard 12/1 gaslight timing, these grow easily as fast- or faster.

I don't have proof so I'm not making the claim, but they 'seem' to be growing a bit faster than when I ran 18/6. One theory is above. Another possibility is that the room doesn't get as hot over 6 hours as it would with 18 hours of continuous lighting, so plants are in better conditions.
 

whitebb2727

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Here's a twist; instead of running veg 18 on and 6 off, a friend suggested I try 6 on and 2 off, the times a day. The theory was that plants do their best growing in the first part of the day, so replicate that.

The plants- none of which are auto flowers- in this regime are remaining in veg state. No surprise but it's always nice to have confirmation, right?

They do seem to like it and grow vigorously. I see no ill effects. I noticed a slowdown in growth rates under standard 12/1 gaslight timing, these grow easily as fast- or faster.

I don't have proof so I'm not making the claim, but they 'seem' to be growing a bit faster than when I ran 18/6. One theory is above. Another possibility is that the room doesn't get as hot over 6 hours as it would with 18 hours of continuous lighting, so plants are in better conditions.
Mid day depression. Makes sense that it works.
 

OldMedUser

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Here's a twist; instead of running veg 18 on and 6 off, a friend suggested I try 6 on and 2 off, the times a day. The theory was that plants do their best growing in the first part of the day, so replicate that.

The plants- none of which are auto flowers- in this regime are remaining in veg state. No surprise but it's always nice to have confirmation, right?

They do seem to like it and grow vigorously. I see no ill effects. I noticed a slowdown in growth rates under standard 12/1 gaslight timing, these grow easily as fast- or faster.

I don't have proof so I'm not making the claim, but they 'seem' to be growing a bit faster than when I ran 18/6. One theory is above. Another possibility is that the room doesn't get as hot over 6 hours as it would with 18 hours of continuous lighting, so plants are in better conditions.
I have no problem keeping temps steady under 24/0 if I wanted that but I'm a believer that plants need a sleepy time too to be as healthy as possible so stick to 18/6 or 20/4 so they get a solid few hours of sleep. I know I wouldn't want to get up after two hours, be awake for 6 then sleep for two more. I'm more of an 18/6 guy in real life. :)

As the plants do most all their growing and producing sugars etc that they need to grow using light as their energy source it just doesn't seem logical that they could do as well with a broken light schedule and less hours of light. Time is wasted shutting down and getting going again and it goes against what millions of years of evolution has fine-tuned the plants genetics to want.

I'm not saying there isn't merit in either idea but put me down as skeptical.

Thanks for the response.

:peace:
 

torontoke

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I have no problem keeping temps steady under 24/0 if I wanted that but I'm a believer that plants need a sleepy time too to be as healthy as possible so stick to 18/6 or 20/4 so they get a solid few hours of sleep. I know I wouldn't want to get up after two hours, be awake for 6 then sleep for two more. I'm more of an 18/6 guy in real life. :)

As the plants do most all their growing and producing sugars etc that they need to grow using light as their energy source it just doesn't seem logical that they could do as well with a broken light schedule and less hours of light. Time is wasted shutting down and getting going again and it goes against what millions of years of evolution has fine-tuned the plants genetics to want.

I'm not saying there isn't merit in either idea but put me down as skeptical.

Thanks for the response.

:peace:
Fair enough sir
To each their own and all that
 

torontoke

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Guess that's the joy of running testers.
Also went and applied for a new house today. Sort of important to me. Lol
Need somewhere to set up the two tents I ordered off eBay.
Here's hoping they show up in plain boxes and before I have to move.
 
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