why be happy about having Trump?

Hookabelly

Hookabelly

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SneekyNinja said:
People think that because their guy won it's all candy and rainbows.

They don't realise they fell for the strategy like children; "if you present limited options, they'll always choose an option that serves your purpose".

Most Hillary voters just thought she was less of a piece of shit.

Writing that post then went back to rolling and tipped my joint over by mistake...

Trump prohibiting cannabis use already?
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Well, I guess i can live w/o the rainbow part, but no candy? that sucks.
 
dandyrandy

dandyrandy

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And mineral rights. All laws are made for the elite to tinkle down on us. Always will be. We can't afford lobbyists. But trump will stop lobbyists.
 
dandyrandy

dandyrandy

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twostrokenut said:
Its not my opinion that the federal government exists as a contract between 50 individual states. Each individual state usually has its individual interest in mind. Its a fact.
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It's your option as far as it being good or bad. I had government in the sixties.
 
see4

see4

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twostrokenut said:
Well, I will start at the beginning for you.

Article II, Section 1, states, "Each State shall appoint, in such a Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress; but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed as an Elector."

The Congress is split with House and Senate for this reason as well. The reason? Bingo, you got it, layer of protection from Democracy.

The original EC was designed so that no candidate of the lot got the majority of votes. They simply took the candidate with the most votes as President, the candidate with the 2nd most votes as VP.

It's very lulzy that the current elections results under the original pre-ammendments EC would yield Trump as President and Clinton as Vice.

1,000,000 more Americans ivoted for Hillary in States that went to Hillary already should change the election outcome is your argument. An intelligent conversation might not be possible with logic like that.
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I'm aware of Article 2, Section 1 of the Constitution. However, I'm still unclear how it, the House and the Senate are layers of protection "from" Democracy. You'll need to explain that.

I don't see how popular vote is a failure in logic. It seems to me that be the most logical way of electing someone in a true Democracy. And I find it baffling you are not able to grasp that.

Imagine sitting in a room with 10 of your close friends, so there is 11 of you in the room. And among you, you decide that one needs to be the leader of the group. How would you decide? Would you have everyone in the room provide a show of hands who is to be elected? Or would you separate some from the others because they may live closer to one another? And then have them decide among their small group who gets to cast a vote for the leader? Logic precludes the former to be more accurate.

We have 330,000,000 citizens in the United States. Of those who were able to vote, 1,000,000 more voted for Hillary Clinton than Donald Trump. Why are those 1,000,000 not counted?
 
see4

see4

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twostrokenut said:
There ya go. Conversation rendered completely pointless.
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You're a snide little prick aren't you? Ok. I'll treat you as such.

So by your own logic, what is law, is law. So then I assume you are against the repeal of Obamacare. Because after all, a law is a law.

twostrokenut said:
The statement that keeps on giving, tried but just couldn't resist.
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Missing a word in a sentence is completely different than not knowing how to spell a word. And I'm the first to admit if I misuse a word, and when people point it out I'm happy to acknowledge it.


I'm sorry that you're either too fucking stupid or too fucking ignorant to see the logic in a popular vote. And I'm equally unsurprised that you're incapable of explaining why an Electoral College is logical. How about you try explaining it? Smartass.
 
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Sharon Burns

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Trump scares me. I owe a couple of businesses and would never "steal" from my vendors. I pay my staff above going wage and hopefully I have some respect from my staff. I believe I live by my "Canadian" morals living here in US.
 
twostrokenut

twostrokenut

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see4 said:
You're a snide little prick aren't you? Ok. I'll treat you as such.

So by your own logic, what is law, is law. So then I assume you are against the repeal of Obamacare. Because after all, a law is a law.
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Thanks for explaining my logic daddy, Law is Law and law is pertaining to a society. It goes on and on but do pretend 11 guys voting on who's beer bitch in a frat house is the best system to preserve Natural Rights in a Republic. Your ignorance on certain issues is astounding sometimes but thanks for being with me on Arms Rights.


see4 said:
Missing a word in a sentence is completely different than not knowing how to spell a word. And I'm the first to admit if I misuse a word, and when people point it out I'm happy to acknowledge it.


I'm sorry that you're either too fucking stupid or too fucking ignorant to see the logic in a popular vote. And I'm equally unsurprised that you're incapable of explaining why an Electoral College is logical. How about you try explaining it? Smartass.
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This is not computer programming. Missing a word and misspelling are the same. I have already explained why the Electoral College is one of many necessary layers for protection against Democracy. Now its on you to justify otherwise.

Your only smug, pricked, jizz soaked comeback so far is that a true democratic popular election is the best process in a true Democratic federal government. Which is ignorant as fuck.
 
twostrokenut

twostrokenut

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Sharon Burns said:
Trump scares me. I owe a couple of businesses and would never "steal" from my vendors. I pay my staff above going wage and hopefully I have some respect from my staff. I believe I live by my "Canadian" morals living here in US.
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How many women are in top positions in your businesses?
 
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Sharon Burns

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I owe Gold tans in Sacramento, CA all women
Denali Accountants in Salem Oregon all women
CFO of National Botanicals Cannabis grow in Oregon I am the only woman with a bunch of retired military men
 
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