Super bloom nutrients

JDMase

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So I was checking this out, and noticed how high the P is, and yeah I get that P is needed for fruits but is that not so high its going to cause toxicity?

The reason I say that is due to the fact that they say low ppm is adequate. Which makes me think it's too high to maybe make the product seem beneficial when maybe it might not? Is there not a cut off where adding more P has negated gains?

If you have used this or something similar let me know if you think running it is worth it
 

JDMase

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If that's for flower n is to high I think? You low n for flower
I think some N is still needed for bud growth, that's why the plants cannaballise their leaves for it (I believe). So im not sure if the high N is to give them more than they get from just their leaves?
 

lio lacidem

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You are correct JD plants still need N In flower. This mix does have high p but alot of the boosters do. Before I went organic my flowering nutes were 8-24-12.
 

JDMase

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High P is a myth that won't die
Well this is what I thought, is this food unnecessary?

I only ask because im running Lucas method with floranova bloom and im yet to see my buds fattening up like I see some peoples do, here. Im only on my second grow and dialing everything in though. Heat is always over 30c at lights on, around 22-28 with lights off. Which I know is way too hot.
 

RM3

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Well this is what I thought, is this food unnecessary?

I only ask because im running Lucas method with floranova bloom and im yet to see my buds fattening up like I see some peoples do, here. Im only on my second grow and dialing everything in though. Heat is always over 30c at lights on, around 22-28 with lights off. Which I know is way too hot.
Tis needed just not in high amounts and I've posted the evidence all over, it gets a bit tiring seein all the nonsense bro science rulin the roost
 

JDMase

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Tis needed just not in high amounts and I've posted the evidence all over, it gets a bit tiring seein all the nonsense bro science rulin the roost
My NPK is currently 4-8-7, I have some dry potash here I could add to my water. Should I? Or what do u recommend for fattenin up. Just worried they are gonna mature before they get any bigger. Although my leaves are still pretty green.

HPS picture from last week, sorry.

The pistils are more red and receded today.

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Unless im just gettig impatient and they've got a few weeks to go.. We are sitting at 8.5 weeks from seed. So pretty much what sweet seeds say. Im guessing I'll go 2 or so weeks over that.
 

RM3

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My NPK is currently 4-8-7, I have some dry potash here I could add to my water. Should I? Or what do u recommend for fattenin up. Just worried they are gonna mature before they get any bigger. Although my leaves are still pretty green.

HPS picture from last week, sorry.

The pistils are more red and receded today.

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Unless im just gettig impatient and they've got a few weeks to go.. We are sitting at 8.5 weeks from seed. So pretty much what sweet seeds say. Im guessing I'll go 2 or so weeks over that.
Yeppers could go another week or two

my nute is a 7-15-30 first cannabis specific nute designed by JR Peters
 

JDMase

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Yeppers could go another week or two

my nute is a 7-15-30 first cannabis specific nute designed by JR Peters
I'll look into it. Definitely higher nPK ratios, does thag mean you use less PPM's than say if you were to use a low nPK ratio? Not too sure how it works lol.

Pic of same bud today. (HPS again my bad)

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JDMase

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Yeppers could go another week or two

my nute is a 7-15-30 first cannabis specific nute designed by JR Peters
I'll look into it. Definitely higher nPK ratios, does thag mean you use less PPM's than say if you were to use a low nPK ratio? Not too sure how it works lol.

Pic of same bud today.

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Dr. Who

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My NPK is currently 4-8-7, I have some dry potash here I could add to my water. Should I? Or what do u recommend for fattenin up. Just worried they are gonna mature before they get any bigger. Although my leaves are still pretty green.

HPS picture from last week, sorry.

The pistils are more red and receded today.

View attachment 3846848

Unless im just gettig impatient and they've got a few weeks to go.. We are sitting at 8.5 weeks from seed. So pretty much what sweet seeds say. Im guessing I'll go 2 or so weeks over that.
The stuff you linked - to me is simply plant poison!!
The N is so high to mask the way too high P (the N will hide the P damage for awhile, till the P damage takes over. The plant will be a yellow crispy mess at harvest).

I like higher K then P......

If you really want to try a late bloom booster......I have been partial to hitting plants with something like a 0 - 7 to 9 - 15 to 19....ONCE at week 5 and 7.......When doing this when running synthetics. It was simple to just buy Atami's (B'cuz) Blossom Builder and use it MY way......
 

JDMase

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The stuff you linked - to me is simply plant poison!!
The N is so high to mask the way too high P (the N will hide the P damage for awhile, till the P damage takes over. The plant will be a yellow crispy mess at harvest).

I like higher K then P......

If you really want to try a late bloom booster......I have been partial to hitting plants with something like a 0 - 7 to 9 - 15 to 19....ONCE at week 5 and 7.......When doing this when running synthetics. It was simple to just buy Atami's (B'cuz) Blossom Builder and use it MY way......
Well if that's the case, im just gonna steer clear altogether! I don't think im ready haha.
I have some potash, I'll put some of that in the mix and see how it reacts.
 

Dr. Who

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Well if that's the case, im just gonna steer clear altogether! I don't think im ready haha.
I have some potash, I'll put some of that in the mix and see how it reacts.
Adding powdered potash will work in organics well. Care is needed in it's application....
In synthetics. A simple source would be silica supplements! You get the benefit of the Si too.

Use great care when using and mixing silica's. Add the Si to the water first and stir well. Then add your nutrient and stir and any Ca/Mg last and stir. Use only as directed on the bottle....

There are several single nutrient sources for K. Raw has one and there is one from an organic maker too. Can't recall right off hand, and if I remember right it's a 0-0-6 source.
 
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