Is there anything currently better then amare?

KarmaPaymentPlan

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further more Amare has always seem to skimp on the cobs, like a generation behind always. when everybody was rocking cxa 3070 Amare was using 2530. now a couple years later with Citi and Gen 7 Amare upgrades to last years CXB
 

Hybridway

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Yes really!!!! Did you watch the video before commenting? He says plants don't use green light which is bullshit. I was commenting the fact that the guy is an idiot.
He's gotta be an idiot stealing his advertising from Mars & Advanced right?
I mean, what credible company would actually steal a logo from a more popular company w/ hopes of getting a few customers out of the schist?
That's crazy hu?
 

Hybridway

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further more Amare has always seem to skimp on the cobs, like a generation behind always. when everybody was rocking cxa 3070 Amare was using 2530. now a couple years later with Citi and Gen 7 Amare upgrades to last years CXB
That's simply not true.
Actually they're pretty far ahead.
They switched to CXB over CXA before most.
Also, you refer to untested, new cobs.
Maybe they would like to see the efficacy of these new cobs or maybe they know something you don't about what Cree has in the near future.
I still don't understand why the smaller scale growers are so interested in 2% efficiency increase even if they just invested in what was best 3 months ago.
You can chase your tail for ever trying to stay on-top of tech. It happens everyday.
 

Hybridway

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Most companies are more interested in profit than giving their customers the ultimate product, planned obsolescence.
Not this one.
As you all are aware, you can't DIY for less or would be very hard-pressed.
Also, are we just gonna ignore the facts here?
The non-relevant MSRP.
He's selling these things for a steal, caring much more about customer satisfaction then profits.

Do you guys have an opinion on Plat stealing advertising from Mars & Advanced?
What ever happened to Advancec anyways?
Pretty sure the advert swiping from Plat cost them their popularity.
They should've upgraded. I bet they were one of the better burples, if there is such a thing.
 

KarmaPaymentPlan

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Not this one.
As you all are aware, you can't DIY for less or would be very hard-pressed.
Also, are we just gonna ignore the facts here?
The non-relevant MSRP.

He's selling these things for a steal, caring much more about customer satisfaction then profits.

I don't know where you found "hate" in my post. I simply called you a shill then laid down some facts. I concluded you were a shill because nobody in their right mind would convince another person to buy a fixture that is 35-45% efficient (the UVB light throws this down a good bit), for ~2.2$/w, when you can get a premade fixture that is 55% efficient and costing around 1.5$/w; even less if you DIY. Personally I think 1$/w @55% efficiency is realistic if you go the DIY route and manage to keep the thermal control cost effective.t mean much like it used to.
but you can dicker with him for a better price like a car salesman so says the Amare crew
@Hybridway where are all these studies from Amare proving augmented cobs are better
further more if Amare is so great why dont they share par like all the other leading companies
 

captainmorgan

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That's simply not true.Also, you refer to untested, new cobs.
Maybe they would like to see the efficacy of these new cobs or maybe they know something you don't about what Cree has in the near future.
I still don't understand why the smaller scale growers are so interested in 2% efficiency increase even if they just invested in what was best 3 months ago.
You can chase your tail for ever trying to stay on-top of tech. It happens everyday.
I think that's a strawman, most of LED tech is incremental improvements. Higher bin or next gen, increases in output and efficiency with the same spectrum's. Small scale growers should be more interested in efficiency in my opinion and some people will always chase the best or ultimate. When I build something new I always go for the combo of best bang for the buck with a very high efficiency, but I'm still using my original cxa3070 COB's.
 

captainmorgan

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Not this one.
As you all are aware, you can't DIY for less or would be very hard-pressed.
Also, are we just gonna ignore the facts here?
The non-relevant MSRP.
He's selling these things for a steal, caring much more about customer satisfaction then profits.
That is a telling statement, how would you know what Amares business ethics and practices are? Seems to me you are either closely tied to the company or you're just guessing based on some conversations with them, which is it? I'm not saying Amare is a bad product but it is also not the greatest light on the planet like you make it out to be, it's just tech.
 

tstick

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Which (if any) of these lights can make a Girl Scout Cookies plant produce as much bud as a Blue Dream plant?

Which of these lights can kill off a broad mite infestation better?

Do any of these lights regulate the soil pH?

:)
 

FunnyManSam

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My final question. I already have an amare that I'll be using still and will probably be sticking to growing 8-12 plants.
What would work next to the amare the best, another amare, or would the 600 or 900 already built timber be the way to go. I am not that worried about the money as I am having the best possible light in my room. Like I said, I just need what would grow the plants the largest and best. I also have as much space as I want and can also make a new grow space if needed also.
 

FunnyManSam

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And for everyone saying amare is a bad company, will you please suggest me lights that are already built that are better than because no one has really done that.
 

Hybridway

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My final question. I already have an amare that I'll be using still and will probably be sticking to growing 8-12 plants.
What would work next to the amare the best, another amare, or would the 600 or 900 already built timber be the way to go. I am not that worried about the money as I am having the best possible light in my room. Like I said, I just need what would grow the plants the largest and best. I also have as much space as I want and can also make a new grow space if needed also.
Amare next to Amare is the best way to go. They make extremely intense lights & already provide the mixed spectrum. They're designed to be used together w/ overlapping light. That's why they come w/ H-Brackets & have the Solar-System option.
With that said, you don't need to add a Burple light to a white w/ hopes of it mixing, which never seems to pan out.
Also, seeing how they are so intense, the best way to have the most uniformity would be to use another. Another cool thing is the option to go w/ reflectors or Lens. Great versitily on the garden.
If you went w/ a Timber next to it, I'd imagine it would be difficult to get them both to work together seeing how one is much more intense then the other & has more depth & density. But the Timber will provide more uniformity from a single fixture.
Unless maybe you installed the cobs closer together & put lenses on. Even that, wouldn't have the mixed spectrum.
The goal is to provide even uniformity to the area while still having good density to your light.
That's what's so good about DIY lights in a single tent. They spread the cobs out to provide an even PPFD on the canopy.
Amare has done the same thing by offering the Pro-3 & 4 models. 2 of them next to each other is highly intense & maintains high #'s still when going farther down into the plants.
As you can see from the Plat video too, they have allot more IR then many other lights. HPS does too.
Just built my room, the ceiling is layed out for Pro-4's all the way down, w/ the exception of 1, SE-450 between 2, Pro-4's. If I had used any other light in the middle, not many would be able to provide light at the depth Of the others to my area.
Hope this helps.
Like for intense, a Fluence had the nice mixed spectrum but lacks the intensity/density.
I'm sure these guys will answer your question w/ vendored lights that are all the same pretty much. Also, can you find results from actual growers on any of them? Usually not because if someone wanted an all white cob light, they usually build one to save money & spread the cobs out to make one fixture do the job.
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White cobs will grow you great big colas too, it's just getting two different fixtures to coincide well w/ each other is the trick.
 
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ttystikk

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Which (if any) of these lights can make a Girl Scout Cookies plant produce as much bud as a Blue Dream plant?

Which of these lights can kill off a broad mite infestation better?

Do any of these lights regulate the soil pH?

:)
Some of mine make the moon shine brighter.
 

ttystikk

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And for everyone saying amare is a bad company, will you please suggest me lights that are already built that are better than because no one has really done that.
Johnson Grow Lights has several models that would work extremely well. Northern Grow Lights also has some good options.
 

Hybridway

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Any opinions on Plat stealing Aavanced & Mars Advertising? There's allot of copy-cat stuff going on in the led light industry hu!
 

Stephenj37826

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He's gotta be an idiot stealing his advertising from Mars & Advanced right?
I mean, what credible company would actually steal a logo from a more popular company w/ hopes of getting a few customers out of the schist?
That's crazy hu?

More personal attacks? Dude give it up already.

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