MichiganMedGrower
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I can't believe it takes 10 of those lights to equal 1 400w HPS.
What do you use for soil?
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MichiganMedGrower
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Hell I moved way out to the woods just to avoid the old soft ones. Lol.
It's not what your write sometimes it's what you quote
It's easier to delete than edit
REALSTYLES
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Well I make 12 cob that is better than a 600w HPS 24 cob that will outperform Gavita
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REALSTYLES
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gotcha I see now it's all good.
REALSTYLES
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although it was no big deal just didn't like now he acted lol
mauricem00
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I heard about that. but I was just being sarcastic. a similar thing happened back in the 70's when cities tried LPS lamps. too uellow for most people.HPS street lights give a softer light over a larger area.I am not a big fan of LED parking lot lights. to harse and not as good of coverageThere are towns with new cob streetlights that are petitioning to get their nice mellow HPS lamps back. The bright white light is stressing whole towns out.
MichiganMedGrower
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I knew that was coming.
I have chosen to add a cmh to my 2 600w super HPS garden. Not enough money to be saved going that route for me. I heat my cold house with my exhaust to supplement the propane tank out here.
But I do believe all our tools have a place.
iHearAll
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I mix 1:1:1:1 ratio by volume (5 gal pail is a good measuring tool and assume 20 gal total soil for ammendment qty) of the following; vermicastings, native sandy loam, peat/coco/or biochar, aerated compost. dress with 1-2T Lime per gallon of soil, also bone meal same amount, 1/2-2 gallon of bokashi per 20 gal soil, small handful of epsom salt. mix completely three times over with a shovel on pavement or bare soil.
that's a base soil if i ever saw one and accompanied by aerated teas it is pretty fly performance. Organics becomes insanely efficient if you practice sustainability techniques that all revolve around microorganism use and vermicomposting (livestock integration).
Uberknot
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pfft...then I know a lot of head lights they need to change out first..because I know they are way too bright.
orangeade5
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I have a 600 watt unit using 12x 50 watt cobs and it's the 3000k spectrum. It does have a nice slightly yellow color to it, but much more white than hps. The problem is that the higher kelvin temps have much more blue which has a short wavelength, and it strains the eyes.
Driving around most big cities in the US you could have your headlights off and not know it for awhile, it's way too bright we need to see the stars, maaaaan.
REALSTYLES
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Well guys I say different. I'll have to take a night pic to show you guys lol it cracks me up what I'm reading.
iHearAll
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Dr. Who
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I thought this was about soils?
Now it's crappy blurple LED's and the peanut gallery pointing fingers at each other to Sunni?
Lets go back to "soil". Which Pro mix, BioBizz and anything that does not contain actual real "plant nutrition" is NOT!
It's an inert media....
Let the crying begin!
Now it's crappy blurple LED's and the peanut gallery pointing fingers at each other to Sunni?
Lets go back to "soil". Which Pro mix, BioBizz and anything that does not contain actual real "plant nutrition" is NOT!
It's an inert media....
Let the crying begin!
Dr. Who
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^^^ And then you have the folks who know what it is, and grow well in it!
One of my bud's, takes a great organic base soil. Puts in a bit of Dolo, and runs the plants for 32 days. He then begins his nutrient regimen, using Botanicare KIND, Pro tekt and my sweet Raw formula (used to run Hesi or a variation of Ionic and Hesi)......I gotta say that his results are so impressive. I don't even complain about him "wasting" such nice base soil.....(He gives the used to my wife for her flower beds and area's for sandy soil that she's building up slowly with it.)
He just went to that from an inert media method he did for years and years.....he likes the way the seedlings do with the organic base....Not to mention he saw what I spend on making 4 cu ft of 30 day base! He pinch's penny's so hard that he gets called Mr. Crabs at the co-op meetings!
One of my bud's, takes a great organic base soil. Puts in a bit of Dolo, and runs the plants for 32 days. He then begins his nutrient regimen, using Botanicare KIND, Pro tekt and my sweet Raw formula (used to run Hesi or a variation of Ionic and Hesi)......I gotta say that his results are so impressive. I don't even complain about him "wasting" such nice base soil.....(He gives the used to my wife for her flower beds and area's for sandy soil that she's building up slowly with it.)
He just went to that from an inert media method he did for years and years.....he likes the way the seedlings do with the organic base....Not to mention he saw what I spend on making 4 cu ft of 30 day base! He pinch's penny's so hard that he gets called Mr. Crabs at the co-op meetings!
fined90
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I started growing with the Kellogg's potting soil amended with 1/3 perlite it worked and I grew very healthy plants. When I got more experience I switched to more expensive soils like fox farm, one coco called big city mix, and a few other organic soils they all out performed Kellogg's quality and yield. Actually I have a pic frm a couple years ago I'll show, both were amended with worm castings given same nutes (gh 3 part) and a healthy dose of bennies. I finally made a believer outta my my ex gf dad that year who's been using miracle grow soil to grow commercially for years. Granted I put a tiny bit more love into mine the results speak for them selfs happy growing
Miracle grow amended with worm castings(4 in front)
Fox farm ocean forest/happy frog
Miracle grow amended with worm castings(4 in front)
Fox farm ocean forest/happy frog
fined90
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I agree I'm currently using coco with great results indoor. My point was there's a lot of better stuff than miracle grow but it will work if ur in a tite spot.