1000w Citizen CLU048 1212 Garden

Milliardo Peacecraft

Milliardo Peacecraft

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WEEEEEEELLLLLLLL I'm back. Lost all motivation to keep updating this. Did a monocrop of some Blueberry x Indiana Bubblegum clones under the CLUs that was kind of garbage and I didn't feel like posting ugly pictures. The cut sucked, so I can't say anything definitive about the CLUs other than they can in fact knock out two vendible pounds in a 1000w 4x8 unairconditioned tent with dirt cheap nutes and bunk genetics. Whatever the case may be, I swapped the whole rig for 3590s and ran another side-by-side monocrop of Dr. Who and my keeper pheno of Exotic Genetix Guice (good god did I find a keeper, pictures soon). Pulled down 3.3lbs of super heady stuff and about .75lbs of larf. Have a new run of the Guice #5 in the tent now and just got the trellis on (started using trellis nets, I feel like an idiot for ever doing without).

So tl;dr: CLU048, meh.

I've also got a pheno run of 9 Exotic Genetix Black Mamba females coming down tomorrow, I'll give you guys pictures before the chop when my lights come on.

Have another pheno run of Relentless Genetics Fire Pie OG that was just topped and all will be showing sex in the next week. Looking pretty promising.

Might be running some of Obsoul33t's stuff soon, see what all the hype is about. Stay tuned ladies n germs.
 

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CobKits

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Milliardo Peacecraft said:
WEEEEEEELLLLLLLL I'm back. Lost all motivation to keep updating this. Did a monocrop of some Blueberry x Indiana Bubblegum clones under the CLUs that was kind of garbage and I didn't feel like posting ugly pictures. The cut sucked, so I can't say anything definitive about the CLUs other than they can in fact knock out two vendible pounds in a 1000w 4x8 unairconditioned tent with dirt cheap nutes and bunk genetics. Whatever the case may be, I swapped the whole rig for 3590s and ran another side-by-side monocrop of Dr. Who and my keeper pheno of Exotic Genetix Guice (good god did I find a keeper, pictures soon). Pulled down 3.3lbs of super heady stuff and about .75lbs of larf. Have a new run of the Guice #5 in the tent now and just got the trellis on (started using trellis nets, I feel like an idiot for ever doing without).

So tl;dr: CLU048, meh.

I've also got a pheno run of 9 Exotic Genetix Black Mamba females coming down tomorrow, I'll give you guys pictures before the chop when my lights come on.

Have another pheno run of Relentless Genetics Fire Pie OG that was just topped and all will be showing sex in the next week. Looking pretty promising.

Might be running some of Obsoul33t's stuff soon, see what all the hype is about. Stay tuned ladies n germs.
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can i have those chips ill put them to work ;)
 
abaloneandbuds

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Milliardo Peacecraft said:
two vendible pounds in a 1000w 4x8 unairconditioned
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So, that's not great, but not terrible either, but I have to ask, are you spreading 1000w of CLU's over a whole 4x8 tent? cause that'd be like 165ppfd... and I wouldn't be surprised to see mediocre yields and buds out of that. I mean, I'm shooting for 3600w in a 4x8 space in a 5x10 tent. just my $0.02
 
Milliardo Peacecraft

Milliardo Peacecraft

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abaloneandbuds said:
So, that's not great, but not terrible either, but I have to ask, are you spreading 1000w of CLU's over a whole 4x8 tent? cause that'd be like 165ppfd... and I wouldn't be surprised to see mediocre yields and buds out of that. I mean, I'm shooting for 3600w in a 4x8 space in a 5x10 tent. just my $0.02
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Yeah, even spread between five bars. I mean I still easily recovered the cost of the cobs. I got two vendible pounds and then half a 13 gallon garbage bin full of larf lol. Made a shit load of super bomb edibles, so it wasn't a total wash. I hunted that cut myself and I'm 100% sure it's a dud, I just felt bad and kept it because it was the least shitty cut out of like 13 really shitty females that I sunk a bunch of time into.

Don't do 3600 watts in that space, I've had issues with fox tailing from light sensitivity with 1k and no optics with mixed spectrum 3590s @ 1.4 amps. Although there are some very special cuts you can go total bugs bunny on and they just get absurdly dense without sprouting tails, like some cookies and mendobreath crosses, you'd have to keep em pretty short though. You could totally get away with 3.6k in that situation but it's a little less utilitarian.

OH. Speaking of which, abandoned the Obsoul33t plan and copped a couple packs of Ghost Breath from Pug. AND IT'S MY 25TH BIRTHDAY YEEEEEEEEUHHHHHH BOOOOIIIIIIIII.
 
abaloneandbuds

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nxsov180db said:
1000w of cobs in a 4x8 will be way more than 165ppfd even at the lowest efficiency.. With 3600 watts of cob in the same space you'll have way to much light...
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Maybe I'm missing something, but at ~50% efficiency, and 3 square meters, I don't know what...

Edit: :wall: left out the multiplier for umol/j... shit.
 
The Dawg

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MMJ Dreaming 99 said:
Hello Mr. Dawg Sir - how did the CLU's compare to your Vero's?
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I Have Only 1 Run With The Citis (1812) Although I Fucked Up My Grow With An Phosphate Overload I Was Impressed Enough To Build More Citi's. 1 Of Which Will Be The 4000k 90 CRI 1212 :hump: And Of Course I'm Building Another 1812 3500K. I'm Running An Experiment Between The 80CRI And The 90 CRI.

Now To Answer Your Question Nothing Will Replace My Love For The Vero29!!!!!!!!!!!!!! However The Citizen's Are A Very Close 2nd And Whips The Shit Out Of The Over Priced Cree's :weed:
 
Milliardo Peacecraft

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Here's my keeper pheno of Exotix Guice about ten days from chop.

Warning to anyone growing these beans: They are unstable, 9/10 phenos were absolute shit, and this one has a leaf deformity.

That said, she's an absolute dream to grow. Super dense, crazy vigor, smells just like the glue with a hint of something different, and pretty much typifies everything structurally good about OGs. One of my favorite cuts ever. BEHOLD.
 

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doz

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nxsov180db said:
3 square meters is roughly 32 square feet, how did you come up with 81???
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Errr, not sure. Maybe he should clarify. I read that as 3 meters squared (which would make more sense in his context).

If its 3 meters squared, then is nearly 100 sq ft actually (was late last night) (96.8 sq ft). Would make sense with his 3600w calculation that way as well.
 
Rocurse

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Milliardo Peacecraft said:
WEEEEEEELLLLLLLL I'm back. Lost all motivation to keep updating this. Did a monocrop of some Blueberry x Indiana Bubblegum clones under the CLUs that was kind of garbage and I didn't feel like posting ugly pictures. The cut sucked, so I can't say anything definitive about the CLUs other than they can in fact knock out two vendible pounds in a 1000w 4x8 unairconditioned tent with dirt cheap nutes and bunk genetics. Whatever the case may be, I swapped the whole rig for 3590s and ran another side-by-side monocrop of Dr. Who and my keeper pheno of Exotic Genetix Guice (good god did I find a keeper, pictures soon). Pulled down 3.3lbs of super heady stuff and about .75lbs of larf. Have a new run of the Guice #5 in the tent now and just got the trellis on (started using trellis nets, I feel like an idiot for ever doing without).

So tl;dr: CLU048, meh.

I've also got a pheno run of 9 Exotic Genetix Black Mamba females coming down tomorrow, I'll give you guys pictures before the chop when my lights come on.

Have another pheno run of Relentless Genetics Fire Pie OG that was just topped and all will be showing sex in the next week. Looking pretty promising.

Might be running some of Obsoul33t's stuff soon, see what all the hype is about. Stay tuned ladies n germs.
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Wow, had the Mamba's in my cart (wanted Guice, but out of stock) and 86'ed em! Went all the hard on Obsoul33t Orange Cookies, Orange Sherbet, and Gorilla Glue #4 x Alien Dog F1. Goin in after the Swamp Boys First 48. How did the Mamba's come out? Don't like hearing unstable.
 
Milliardo Peacecraft

Milliardo Peacecraft

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Rocurse said:
Wow, had the Mamba's in my cart (wanted Guice, but out of stock) and 86'ed em! Went all the hard on Obsoul33t Orange Cookies, Orange Sherbet, and Gorilla Glue #4 x Alien Dog F1. Goin in after the Swamp Boys First 48. How did the Mamba's come out? Don't like hearing unstable.
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Everything Exotix has is unstable, everything good is unstable. I don't really bust on stuff for herming 1/10 plants. You just have to be cognizant of what you're doing. If I'm cracking beans, I'm resolute in throwing a few out mid flower and I don't run seeds for production. The Mamba is definitely really bomb, my two mothers are still in solos, but I pulled a pretty good looking cookie pheno that has some really nice color and bulk. All ten of my females were great though, no bunk among them.

Blue Steel kind of sucked though, I really don't like exotix's starfighter that they breed with. Stay tuned for my Relentless Genetics run, I've got 10 Fire Pie OG females getting the flip on the 20th. And the Ghostbreath are all sprouted, 17/20 so I'm pretty pleased. Check out the Ghostbreath tag on insta, some really baller looking stuff from passiongreens.
 
JSheeze

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Milliardo Peacecraft said:
I wet trim by hand in total silence by myself because I'm literally insane. Get some Chikamasa scissors, they're my secret. The B500 SF specifically.

It's amazing the kind of quality you can produce with controlled mania. I look at trimming like a meditative exercise. I don't chase women or cars or material in general, I have the time for excruciating detail and I consider that the ultimate luxury. I've been called a monk more than once. Through cultivation I've achieved a self-perpetuating state of robust tranquility, I wear time like a hat, trimming in silence can go on for days without issue.
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That would kill my back, plus I got ADD..DDDDDDDDD lol
 
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