So what went wrong in the Socialist Utopia of Venezuela ?

st0wandgrow

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Discuss, enjoy.

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Absolute power. In the case of Venezuela it was in the hands of a dictator. The same would happen here with capitalism if there was no oversight. We'd have 10 year old kids making 50 cents an hour working 80 hours a week.

I don't know of a single person that wants that. That's not to say that certain aspects of socialism can't work within our system. Universal health care for example.
 

Rob Roy

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Free market, coercion, blah blah blah.

Ie. Typical Rob Roy response

Ironic thing is his kids attend/ed public school and he claims State Disability but still bitches that taxes are theft.

My kids did go to public schools. I do not claim any disability or "benefits" from the state. Stop lying.

Can you explain WHY you think taxes aren't theft? I bet you can't. I mean you might offer some inane contradictory "reasons", but after a volley or tow between us you'll likely go run and hide somewhere contemplating your puniness, unable to refute what I tell you.
 

Rob Roy

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Absolute power. In the case of Venezuela it was in the hands of a dictator. The same would happen here with capitalism if there was no oversight. We'd have 10 year old kids making 50 cents an hour working 80 hours a week.

I don't know of a single person that wants that. That's not to say that certain aspects of socialism can't work within our system. Universal health care for example.

So are you saying that centralizing power and economic decisions in the hands of the few is a bad thing ?
 

SneekyNinja

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My kids did go to public schools. I do not claim any disability or "benefits" from the state. Stop lying.

Can you explain WHY you think taxes aren't theft? I bet you can't. I mean you might offer some inane contradictory "reasons", but after a volley or tow between us you'll likely go run and hide somewhere contemplating your puniness, unable to refute what I tell you.
Citizenship isn't free, there's an implied social contract.

That's how America is so if you don't like it then go somewhere else that doesn't charge the taxes that paid for your kids school and currently pays for your disability payments.
 

twostrokenut

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Citizenship isn't free, there's an implied social contract.

That's how America is so if you don't like it then go somewhere else that doesn't charge the taxes that paid for your kids school and currently pays for your disability payments.
this post is without merit, like a boogeyman.

the contracts are written, implied consent on at least one but no implied contracts.
 

Unclebaldrick

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Venezuela made the classic mistake. They put an entertainer in power.

He spoke to the masses of disaffected Venezuelans in a populist campaign. The problem is, the people were stupid and wrong. Instead of actually fixing anything in the economy, Chavez made a big show about tiny things he did.
 

Douglas.Curtis

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this post is without merit, like a boogeyman.

the contracts are written, implied consent on at least one but no implied contracts.
The USA corporation uses fraud in their contracts. Period. Were YOU fully informed of the ramifications of a birth certificate or social security number... BEFORE your parents signed you up for them?

Socialism is shit
, doesn't matter who's running it. History is full of examples, go look them up.
 
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