4000w 16 plant grow
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bf80255
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Definitely mites bro, annhilate those muther fuckers!!!!!
Thrips have longer bodies and damage leafs differently. those are little round bodied, clear mites and there probably already laying eggs and reproducing so the faster u destroy the little fucks the safer your garden will be.
MMJ Dreaming 99
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Happy New Year bro. I hope your doggie is doing better.
Afgan King
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Well I only got 13 days left and they can't thrive in my temps especially now at 54° night time. @Dr. Who can ya help me out with that leaf pic what I should use if anything at all?
Afgan King
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My rh is 35% I run it like that purposely whole life so never worry of pm
rickyrozayyy
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Different strokes for different folks bro... What's your 12/12... I have my rooms running the am shift to prevent that cold spell. Some rooms are insulated like they should be.. so I counter that with a space heater. That's all you really can do at that point
Afgan King
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I have one on am shift 1 on pm shift and i have ac that use cold air to dehumidify and that's on 24/7 hooked up to my sentinel greenhouse controller and i set my temps on that. I run 71° canopy day 59° at night. 35% humidity day 45% night. House was built in 1905 idk how well the insulation is lol it old
rickyrozayyy
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My AC units are off right now. Running inline fans along the sides of canopy and down the middle for air/c02 and the typical fan/s mounted for air supply up top. Everything is on timers. No central air/heat..
Afgan King
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Damn that's shitty i feel ya I got 2 single hose ac that I converted to dual hose that works pretty well holds co2 alright and was half price of dual hose portable AC
Dr. Who
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I'm with ttystikk on that! Looks Russet like to me too......Stronger power scope at like 100x or higher will clear the story up for you.
Looking back to any plant that came in with damage is a good clue!
IF Russet's go to the heavy mite nukers.....Forbid 4 F has worked for me on the Russet and Broad mite issues I've had in the past..They are tough bastards and I did multiple applications 5 days apart.....Done...
If it's egg's monitor to see what they are.....If non harmful - ignore...
Afgan King
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What if it's in flower? 4bid still OK?
Afgan King
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Think I'm gonna grab shit ton of lady bugs lol I don't think it's bad and I keep finding healthy live lady bugs in other room.....Think they have healthy supply of food
MMJ Dreaming 99
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Forbid and Floramite =- okay in early flower like 3 to maybe 4 weeks. Make sure to wear a respirator. $30 to 50 or cheap one for $17 at Harbor Freight. Gloves. They have a face shield for $3.99 at harbor freight. Take off your clothes and shower afterwards then wash your clothes. Stay out of that room for at least 12 hours if it is prolonged period.
http://www.harborfreight.com/p95-maintenance-free-dual-cartridge-respirator-66554.html
Face shield
http://www.harborfreight.com/face-shield-with-flip-up-visor-62995.html
Harbor frieght has decent 1 and 2 gallon sprayers.
Disposable spray suits - cheap like $2.00 if you buy 20
https://www.google.com/#q=disposable+spray+suit&tbm=shop
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MMJ Dreaming 99
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Ladybugs are good with thrips - not mites.
https://hydro-gardens.com/product-category/beneficials/spidermites/
In Colorado Springs.
The younger lady is nice. The older lady, wife of the owner I think, is pretty tough but knows her sh*t. She told me, "Ladybugs would rather starve than eat spider mites."
Your friend Yoda knows the place.
https://hydro-gardens.com/product/lacewing-eggs-1000-5p335a/
https://hydro-gardens.com/product/lacewing-eggs-5000-5p335/
https://hydro-gardens.com/product/lacewing-eggs-on-cards-5000-5p335c/
One of the posters here said he used Green Lace Wings. It takes about 4 days for them to hatch and become larvae. The larvae are the eaters and are relentless. When they run out of food they eat each other. The lady there may push predator mites but you have a narrow heat and humidity range for them. Predator mites take a while to work too.
Our friend here with the Al Bundy avatar swears by Capt jack's Dead Bug Brew (concentrate) which is Spinosad.
He gave me a tip of getting Fels Naptha soap ($1.19 at Wal Mart or King Soupers or whereever on the detergent aisle).
He said Fels Naptha with Spinosad or the two of them separate for spider mites.
You will need to get a $1 cheese grater at Dollar Tree and two 1 quart plastic jugs at Dollar Tree for $1.
http://www.hansenfamilyfarm.com/blog/make-your-own-non-toxic-insecticidal-spray-soap
Works on Spider mites - not sure about russets.
https://bloomtender.wordpress.com/2013/02/17/fels-naptha-insecticidal-soap/5 hours then spray with water
Our friend 2727 Al Bundy guy says Spinosad and Fels Naptha - separate or together can kill spider mites in Flower. You might want to spray with fans off, let it sit for 1 hour then turn on fans. Let it sit for 5 hours then spray with water with fans off then fans on.
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Afgan King
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I know why I was making sure he wasn't talking about my late flower room I'm certified to spray commercially was trying to figure out best thing for my flower rooms I'll use 4bid on one in week 2 but what about week 8 I'm not too concerned they aren't thriving barely doing damage and got em weeks ago lol
MMJ Dreaming 99
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I need to find the post but one guy on here, very sharp guy, adds something to Forbid or Floramite by Southern Ag to make Forbid and Floramite stick better. I will find the thread. He knew the whole chemistry because Forbid and I think Floramite do not get into the plant system like Spinosad can. It gets into the leaves - top and bottom. Usually good for 3 to 4 weeks but he said adding Southern AG product makes it 8 weeks.
Could be this aka Spreader Sticker
http://southernag.com/residential-products/spreader-sticker/
I am not sure if adding a few drops of Dr. Bronners Peppermint soap or Ivory Dish soap (can be used by itself for spider mites) will help it stick just as well. That Fels Naptha which you mix it u is really gooey. Maybe a 1/2 teaspoon of canola oil might work too.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/221513573364?lpid=82&chn=ps&ul_noapp=true
ttystikk
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The folks at hydro-gardens are great! Lori is very knowledgeable, she just doesn't care much for the punk kids who know it all without ever cracking a book coming and asking her where the VOODOO JUICE is!Ladybugs are good with thrips - not mites.
https://hydro-gardens.com/product-category/beneficials/spidermites/
In Colorado Springs.
The younger lady is nice. The older lady, wife of the owner I think, is pretty tough but knows her sh*t. She told me, "Ladybugs would rather starve than eat spider mites."
Your friend Yoda knows the place.
https://hydro-gardens.com/product/lacewing-eggs-1000-5p335a/
https://hydro-gardens.com/product/lacewing-eggs-5000-5p335/
https://hydro-gardens.com/product/lacewing-eggs-on-cards-5000-5p335c/
One of the posters here said he used Green Lace Wings. It takes about 4 days for them to hatch and become larvae. The larvae are the eaters and are relentless. When they run out of food they eat each other. The lady there may push predator mites but you have a narrow heat and humidity range for them. Predator mites take a while to work too.
Our friend here with the Al Bundy avatar swears by Capt jack's Dead Bug Brew (concentrate) which is Spinosad.
He gave me a tip of getting Fels Naptha soap ($1.19 at Wal Mart or King Soupers or whereever on the detergent aisle).
He said Fels Naptha with Spinosad or the two of them separate for spider mites.
You will need to get a $1 cheese grater at Dollar Tree and two 1 quart plastic jugs at Dollar Tree for $1.
http://www.hansenfamilyfarm.com/blog/make-your-own-non-toxic-insecticidal-spray-soap
Works on Spider mites - not sure about russets.
https://bloomtender.wordpress.com/2013/02/17/fels-naptha-insecticidal-soap/5 hours then spray with water
Our friend 2727 Al Bundy guy says Spinosad and Fels Naptha - separate or together can kill spider mites in Flower. You might want to spray with fans off, let it sit for 1 hour then turn on fans. Let it sit for 5 hours then spray with water with fans off then fans on.
And I don't blame her a bit!
All this is excellent advice, except for spraying Forbid on something people will smoke. I really think the hard cutoff is veg if at all.
ttystikk
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Use a horticultural oil. My favorite happens to be Azamax because it's a pesticide too.
MMJ Dreaming 99
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Good info. I like Charlie the cat or whatever his name is. He finds the spot where the sun is coming thru the window to sleep. I am sure she gets dumb questions all day long and usually it is people trying to use ladybugs for spider mites.
ttystikk
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Those folks are a local treasure, I learn so much from them every time I visit.