poppys everything you need to know
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camaro630hp
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BarnBuster
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I've got seeds from Bouncing Bear Botanicals about 5 years ago
http://www.bouncingbearbotanicals.com/opium-poppy-p-152.html?osCsid=1to82up6rcgi3c4mtd818b3ab1#.V6RIsOb6syU
http://www.bouncingbearbotanicals.com/opium-poppy-p-152.html?osCsid=1to82up6rcgi3c4mtd818b3ab1#.V6RIsOb6syU
TigerSquad
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Try a tea first easyer to Try and not over do it.
TigerSquad
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Most of the reason you can't obtain true poppy is because. Its guarded by terrorist grups and gangs. They control the heroin trade. You have to travel to places and "steal it". I promise you anywhere real true poppy grows is being gaurded... But there'ss hope if you buy unwashed poppy. You can get it from whole food websites it is very similar to real buy far weaker.
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canndo
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There are several different varieties of potent seeds, hens and chick's, Afghani, Dutch, Tasmanian to name a few. Even the ornamentals you can buy at a store will work.
There are wild fields not fifty miles from where I live. I have friends who's front yards blossom even year with hens and chics, poppies are not hard to come by and not every field is guarded.
Ebay sells nice seeds as well. All you need is one successful grow and you will forever be awash with seeds.
As far as potentcy goes, the dutch and the Tasmanian are about as potent as any other and the hens and chics are quite sufficient. Even the bread seed poppies will suffice.
For a person with no tolerance, the juice of three or four pods. Is plenty.
TigerSquad
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I'm telling ya if there worth anything someone is watching them Russian gangs brought a bunch of it were I love and there was a big deal with h dealers in my town... Also gang. But y'all go and take the chance.
TigerSquad
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Some one is watching that feild I'm telling ya. That's the best smoke you'll get (my opinon) and y'all can just walk up and grab it no questions like I pull an orange off a tree... Or maybe more like shrooming lol
farmerfischer
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My 2 cents
Potent poppies have one thing in common. Elevation!!! Low land poppies are almost always weeker. You can grow a potent poppies usually one year in low lands the resulting offspring will lose potency year to year . unless you have a chromatography and can pheno hunt for potency..lol..
Potent poppies have one thing in common. Elevation!!! Low land poppies are almost always weeker. You can grow a potent poppies usually one year in low lands the resulting offspring will lose potency year to year . unless you have a chromatography and can pheno hunt for potency..lol..
ROOSTERMAN
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Not according to the US dept. of agriculture, we had test plots on the east coast not far from DC (One of them is said to be where the pentagon or the CIA headquarters sits today) anyway they grew some of the best / strongest products for that time in both codeine and morphine type crops. They only stopped it becouse of labor prices are so much higher hear.
farmerfischer
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You believe the usda?
farmerfischer
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I read something on papaver oriental being grown in the late 18's early 1900's for codeine production which in turn was made into morphine..I also read somewhere that crossing segtigerum with somniferum can yield high morphine and codeine. It was a study done on a purple and a pink setigerum both crossed with a somniferum. I believe the purple cross yielded the highest
ROOSTERMAN
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Dam good point
Still im not aware of any research that indicates that low altitude would negatively affect it. The only thing I can think of is low altitude areas usually have more rainfall than higher area's which would negatively affect certain aspects as well as mold issues
flowerpower0118
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I didnt read all of this because some of the info that i did read was comletely wrong.
Such as "pulling back the flower petals as soon as the flower opens to expose the green"
First of all, Opium isnt created in the seed pod until after the flowering stage is finnished. Anything you extract before that phase will be mostly plant sugars and other plant hormones that do have some mild pain killing effects when used as a tea, but doesnt contain much morphine and codeine.
Secondly, its important to sun dry it. Sitting in the air and sunlight causes a chemical reaction within the resin.
Thirdly, the best way to get it off of the plant itself is to use a damp sterile cloth.
Once you are finnished harvesting, soak cloth in a slow cooker, remove and squeeze as much out of the cloth as possible, set over night and all the plant matter that you dont want will gather on the top of the liquid.
Strain through cheese cloth. Discard captured plant material with cheese cloth.
Put remaining water back in slow cooker, evaporate water until it becomes a thicker, muddy liquid.
Then set in the sun until it becomes a black tar substance.
After this first process you are left with "Opium Resin"
This can be further processed into Morphine salt, Morphine, and then finally, diacetylmorphine aka Heroin.
Such as "pulling back the flower petals as soon as the flower opens to expose the green"
First of all, Opium isnt created in the seed pod until after the flowering stage is finnished. Anything you extract before that phase will be mostly plant sugars and other plant hormones that do have some mild pain killing effects when used as a tea, but doesnt contain much morphine and codeine.
Secondly, its important to sun dry it. Sitting in the air and sunlight causes a chemical reaction within the resin.
Thirdly, the best way to get it off of the plant itself is to use a damp sterile cloth.
Once you are finnished harvesting, soak cloth in a slow cooker, remove and squeeze as much out of the cloth as possible, set over night and all the plant matter that you dont want will gather on the top of the liquid.
Strain through cheese cloth. Discard captured plant material with cheese cloth.
Put remaining water back in slow cooker, evaporate water until it becomes a thicker, muddy liquid.
Then set in the sun until it becomes a black tar substance.
After this first process you are left with "Opium Resin"
This can be further processed into Morphine salt, Morphine, and then finally, diacetylmorphine aka Heroin.
flowerpower0118
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If you are interested in opium and are not a heavy opioid user (or even if you are, but nonusers or people in recovery usually have better effects) try Kratom or Mitragyna Speciosa.
It is a tree that while not being an opiate itself, effects the same receptors.
It is a proven natural treatment for addiction. I use it myself to help boost my methadone and to ease fentanyl cravings and mild withdrawl symptoms.
It is a tree that while not being an opiate itself, effects the same receptors.
It is a proven natural treatment for addiction. I use it myself to help boost my methadone and to ease fentanyl cravings and mild withdrawl symptoms.
rob333
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lol kratom is a bucket of shit and does nothing to help hard core withdrawels i am on 50 mg or fent 8 mg of beupe and i dose herion try kratom they said inbetween scritpe change fucken bullshit did not work at all and added to my withdrawel sysptoms also this is a thread from 08
rob333
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also kratom on 5 diff times gave me the shits hard core