First Closet Grow 400HPS! BigBud@CA Advice welcomed. Lots of pics and updates!

[bearo420]

So i went crazy, got me a 400watt hps, got myself 2 42 watt warm cfls, and just on the 4th day, today when these pics were taken added in the blue fish tank light. The fish tank light says Marine-Glo its 20watt and is literally blue. I thought it was cooler than a black light at the time for my fish tank, and now im wondering from the experts in here, Is it perfect actually for ganja or of no use at all. If it isnt going to help i need the space for venting soon and no other heat generation devices needed.

So this is day 4 in general, day 6 including the 2 days germinating in paper towels. The $20 of dro is for size comparison, you can see in the pics my whole setup 2 cfls 1 20watt fish tank blue light and the 400watt HPS hanging ready to bathe that closet in lumens. Ive yet to implement the door behind the door ive thought up for this stealth closet grow. Only worry is heat but im putting in and out fans in the door behind the real closet door. Pics will be here when its done. Hope it works or im doing the double wardrobe thing someone did on here.

 

[kieahtoka]

Yo dude transplant those babes quick, they will fight for root space and it will be a nightmare.

 

[kieahtoka]

other than that nice plants but you will need some more cfls or go for an MH conversion light. It will work in your HPS setup.

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[bearo420]

Forgot to mention, the babies in the pics arent the bigbud, there actually test dummies of really shitty trees i get down the block. Like $60 an ounce literally crap weed. So itll be funny if I finish them and there awesome, but i doubt it. But Im not a liar..I ordered a sack of bigbud seeds from N vana a week ago now. and im starting those up the second i get them. And then seeing if I should keep these dirt weed plants. Im dying here waiting i hope they make it. Im posting some pics of the bud of the big.

 

[bearo420]

other than that nice plants but you will need some more cfls or go for an MH conversion light. It will work in your HPS setup.

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Im thinking about it. I have a 400Watt MH ballast and lamp, no hood though, its different from my HPS setup and im waiting for a friend of mine to actually connect the damn together one day. But I may put it in there, depending how hot it gets with this HPS and the door im going to build. And also id have to rig something for it cause its just a loose bulb socket with loose wires.

about space I threw a bunch of seeds in a pot and so many grew that i wasnt expecting. Im not sure Im gonna even keep them so I may just let them fight it out to be honest, before death. I pulled out like 5 already. Its so sad doing it even at this stage. But i may leave it 3 in each

 

[bearo420]

So its hard as hell to take pictures with lights on and there on a 24 hour schedule because im still in the building phase and dont quite know what time will be start on. But they havnt changed in size much. One of them has 1 inch leaves already, another looks like its reaching for the sky, including the leaves pointing up and I killed 2 of them cause they were growing slow. Also as i get setup and build, certain lights go on and off so its easier for now 24on. So ive been doing way too much reading, and i found out about swamp coolers. So theyre advertised humidifiers, air coolers, and air purification. 3 things in one, Is it a dream come true? or is there something i dont know.

Closet is 9 feet tall, 5 feet wide, and only 2 feet deep.

Question 1?: Is the blue fish tank light good, is it helping. Is it helping alot. Everyone says blue at the veg state. So its literally blue light, is it the same. Says marine-glo and 20watt on it. thats it.

Question 2?: Is a swamp cooler a good buy, there air cleaners (maybe smell cleaner also) Humidifiers, and air coolers. So itll cool the 400watt HPS, clean the air maybe of bad smells, and give me some humidity as its 30 or lower being its in a closed off closet. Worth it or not? theyre $100 - $150

Question 3?: Should I just turn that HPS on already, I mean should i bother vegging with the 2 cfls and 20watt fluoro. Its been a week and theyre like 2 inches tall. Worst case is theyll stretch a bit, but i have 9 feet, but why not give them 400watts from start.

And my pics above are still exact, only thing is plants have grown mayve a centimeter more.

 

[bearo420]

So I couldnt take the slow growth there 2inches over 11 days. Not even worth pictures yet, so I put in a venture ballast and 400watt Metal Halide that i had, a friend did the wiring, and i just sparked it 5 minutes ago. Bright as all hell, looks like my closet is heaven, Hoping to see an immediate improvement. So Im taking out that blue light, noone answered my question of it was beneficial and there will be no room for it soon hopefully. I took out the cfls also and the 20 watt fuoroscent, as bright as that MH is on those babies, there not needed.

So can anyone make a guess, if I had a closet 8feet tall 4 feet wide, and 2 feet deep, newbie but with those lights 400MH veg and 400HPS for flower, what is like a realistic goal to harvest? like 2 oz 8oz?

Swamp cooler question also. Anyone using one? Good?

 

[FilthyFletch]

Depends on how many plants you grow how tall you decide to veg them and if you add any side lighting and use good nutes and monitor the temps, the air movement, air exhaust and new air intake. Will you be using any kind of co2 injection? Good soil and big pots? All factors

 

[bearo420]

Holy HOTBOX, that 400MH is hot. Either going to build a tent or get a hydrohut 4x4 soon, cause i dont think the closet is going to work out. I cant cut the door, and im going to need some serious ventilation for these bulbs. I need at least a 200cfm in and a 200cfm out im thinking. Had the door open a half inch with a big 14inch fan on low pointing up and the closet hit 95 degrees in 30 min. This is deffinitely getting to be a project now. I may get the hydrohut if i dont find the cabinets from videomans post soon. Not soo expensive in the long run i guess but annoyed im putting a big ass tent like that in my apartment, but im a pothead, and thats what potheads do. If i get the hut ill put it near the window, and so itll have AC access, fresh air access, and a good exhaust capability. So its leaning that way, im looking at any cabinets, closets, everything, but there just not big enough, so either i stumble on the the ones from videomans post, somebody here knows a cheap cabinet for sale or its hydrohut $250 dollar time. I imagine i have 2 weeks before its no choice decision time but i want to use the closet still so im trying to think of everything. Anyway if i leave the closet door open 5 inches it stays at 85, but my apartment is fuckin too bright

 

[tm21thc]

It happened with me the same thing! But then I sent back the mh&hps and went to ledgrowlights my air cooler is on the way! Will see whats gona be!

 

[I_Miss_OG]

Don't go off buying some sort of hydrohut, try building your own using pvc for the frame, panda wrap for the walls, and tarp zippers for the doors (zippers with adhesive on it so you cut your own doors, if you do this cut the doors sorta like a U so the opening flaps behind you and your not standing on it). At that point its easy to cut a few holes for ducting in the panda wrap for ventilation and add a round duct fan in your exhaust ducting to create negative air pressure, it'll help with the smell later on assuming you have some sort of carbon filter/odor nutrilizer at the end of the exhaust duct. Peace and good luck.

 

[bearo420]

yeah, but i live in a city in the US that is like markup heaven, PVC enough to build a box 4 x 4 x7 with other stuff would cost 200, so im looking at it as im paying 50 dollars more to get the holes cut, zipper put in, and a much more professional look than i could ever do. I thought about PVC, wood, metal, all too expensive for all the hardware and pieces, and i dont have a car. Drive a motorcycle so id have to get the stuff delivered and that would be like another 25-30 bucks. I sound like im arguing to myself now cause i want one, but i too think its too much for such a DIY kinda thing, but theyre only $250 and its ready for grow in 20 minutes.

 

[I_Miss_OG]

Likewise lol I live in the US, and all i have to say is holy hell son.... 200 bucks where the hell do you live NYC or sumthin? To each his own though, and if it does only cost you $50 more then yeah those hydrohuts appear to be made pretty well and that's a small price to pay for convenience heh. Good luck man and happy growing

 

[tm21thc]

Can somebody explain to me why need to build a tent? The smell goes trough the walls or what??

Thanks

 

[I_Miss_OG]

You can control the environment more (temp, humidity, light etc). It also has greater reflectivity helping you out with lighting and they're usually light tight so it stays pitch black when your lights are off. Also, as you mentioned smell. By having the grow box you put a fan blowing out of the exhaust ducting which creates negative air pressure inside the box (air should come in through any small holes you have and into the intake vent rather than out, thus controlling the smell as long as you have a filter at the end of your exhaust) I'd have to say those are the main reasons that I would personally go with some sort of grow box/tent.

 

[bearo420]

Very well spoken I MISS OG. thats exactly why i need the tent for control of all the factors humidity, heat etc. also because i need a dark room more than a bright room now. That and i do live in NYC (If anyone else is from NYC say whats up) so yeah prices are ridiculous, like $5 bucks for 1 foot pvc pipe. Elbows are also like $5 t pipes same thing. Id need more than $250 on just pvc, then 30-40 for panda plastic, hours of building time, then comes the fact i need to cut perfect holes and make them air light tight. Sounds like too much work for someone who isnt a carpenter and fairly lazy pothead. im going with the hydrohut i think for sure just being cheap and saving up and looking for it cheapest now. i also know smell is going to be a huge issue later on, and the hut is air tight.

Bad news, N|rvana never came through. I ordered more than 2 weeks ago, i got the emails that they received payment of course but no seeds. Really upsetting, cause now im going to have to drive my ass to canada to get the seeds myself, and while im there, going to try and pull a rocco in montreal type scene with 2 hablets and get smashed hopefully on some ill canabuds. then leave the next morning. so thanks to them its expensive roadtrip time. Anyone in canada, im going to be driving from NY, so whats the closest seed shop to niagara falls / NY, where should i go thats fun if im going to be there also. Anyone out there in canada reading??


so anyway on the garbage weed grow , damn that 400MH makes me laugh at those cfls. 24 hours and i saw more growth than a week and a half of cfl use. So i guess unless your packing 250watt cfls x 2, your deffinatlely not in the same class. these bulbs are hot as all hell, but i can only imagine how much those beautiful plants are like thank you man. Its like theyre screaming yyyyyyyeeeeeeahhhhhhhhh!!!! so damn brite its kinda exhilirating

 

[tm21thc]

Here are my setup!
I lived in brooklyn ! I had one blueberry girl was growed by the sunshine!

 

[bearo420]

Wow, pretty sweet LED setup there. You have a grow log id like to see how this goes for you? Your deffinitely using cutting edge, but i gotta say, I used 2 42 watt cfls on these for almost 2 weeks. turned on the 400wattmh and it grew more in a day than that 2 weeks. I guess as a million people here argue, if you want monster buds you need monster lights. I may go cfl for starting plants, so i dont burn em, or keeping a mom, but 400 id say is a minimum to anyone who wants to get serious and have fat supply of fat buds. but i guess its like a latina slut. once you have the best you cant go back. I will say the LEDs are interesting, how hot do they get, at all hot?

and cool your from brooklyn, thats of course mad close, and itd be cool to get a bunch of nyc folk together, everyone lightin up buds of their own stickiest ickiest.

 

[tm21thc]

I was in brooklyn! Im right in very south!
They are not hot at all CFL's is more hotter than this!
Cant wait whats gonna be!!
I got three girls in the same time!!!
*White widow * Blueberry * Chronic

Also I have installed a 20W CFL top on this setup

 

[bearo420]

well, feel free to post some pics here as you go, or let me know link to your journal if you start one. like to see how that goes, you may sell me on them for my fantasy stealth closed closet door grow.