Mounting/housing light kit from Timber

meangreengrowinmachine

meangreengrowinmachine

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SimonBarSinister said:
Those are the cree cxb3590 kits from timber. 4 cobs on a hlg 185 1400b driver. @50w per cob. The other side is a 600hps. Just pulled over 800g off 4 plants. Not the best but not the worst!
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dam... thats exactly what I have.... the 600 hps atm and plan on doing this exact same thing maybe i should plan on this lean or try to move the hps around the cobs lol
 
gunoges

gunoges

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If I were using the light I ordered (200w) in a grow tent, what size would you go for? I'm thinking 2 plants is probably what I'm going to be working with. I was thinking a 2x3 would probably be a good size.
 
SimonBarSinister

SimonBarSinister

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meangreengrowinmachine said:
seriously this pic needs to be everywhere to show the HPS vs good cobs differences ... that lean is crazy!
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Yeah , i pushed a few branches over to see a difference in lights on the same plant. They seemed to like the cob side better and started to go that way on their own. My first cob run and so far im liking it!
 
SimonBarSinister

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gunoges said:
If I were using the light I ordered (200w) in a grow tent, what size would you go for? I'm thinking 2 plants is probably what I'm going to be working with. I was thinking a 2x3 would probably be a good size.
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That would probably be great(2x3). Regardless of tent size, you should rock 2 plants. Ive had 12 under a 600 hps and got less than 6 . More light is better than more plants !
 
coreywebster

coreywebster

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gunoges why not get a 3x3 tent and aim to fill 2.5x2.5 in the center, allowing some space around so light can reflect back and penetrate slightly more lower bud sites. Its nice to have a little more room than you need and helps with air circulation. Plus you can move them around a bit easier when you need to.
 
gunoges

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coreywebster said:
gunoges why not get a 3x3 tent and aim to fill 2.5x2.5 in the center, allowing some space around so light can reflect back and penetrate slightly more lower bud sites. Its nice to have a little more room than you need and helps with air circulation. Plus you can move them around a bit easier when you need to.
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I asked the rep at Timber what size the light would cover and they said 6 square feet. That's a good point though, it would be nice to have room on the sides! Is there any downfall to doing this?
 
coreywebster

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gunoges said:
I asked the rep at Timber what size the light would cover and they said 6 square feet. That's a good point though, it would be nice to have room on the sides! Is there any downfall to doing this?
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A possible downfall would be if you were to do a scrog in which case all buds would be at a certain level and not much below the canopy so reflecting lower down would be a waste. All light drops dramatically the further it travels so reflected light has travelled further and thus is weaker, but if you were to do standard bush type plants with several colas on each plant then the canopy would be deeper in general so that reflected light would be useful. Plus with that type of plant you have a nice breeze going on and the branches move slightly allowing light from above to penetrate deeper due to less shading and enhanced by the nature of a cob light having various light sources (light from lots of directions) :eyesmoke:
Edit, besides the light fixture is square so better coverage of a square area. 2.5x2.5 is 6.25ft, in a 3x3 you have 6" either side which isn't huge
 
gunoges

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coreywebster said:
A possible downfall would be if you were to do a scrog in which case all buds would be at a certain level and not much below the canopy so reflecting lower down would be a waste. All light drops dramatically the further it travels so reflected light has travelled further and thus is weaker, but if you were to do standard bush type plants with several colas on each plant then the canopy would be deeper in general so that reflected light would be useful. Plus with that type of plant you have a nice breeze going on and the branches move slightly allowing light from above to penetrate deeper due to less shading and enhanced by the nature of a cob light having various light sources (light from lots of directions) :eyesmoke:
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That does sound interesting! I have been reading about scrog and was actually thinking about trying it. In a grow tent, how much height would you need for non-scrog? The tent I was looking at is 5 ft tall.
 
gunoges

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coreywebster said:
Edit, besides the light fixture is square so better coverage of a square area. 2.5x2.5 is 6.25ft, in a 3x3 you have 6" either side which isn't huge
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I actually ordered the linear one, not square. I had already went over budget by 60$ and it was $20 more expensive, lol. Would it be worthwhile? I already changed my order to include the mount, they're going to hate me when I change it again. :eyesmoke:
 
coreywebster

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gunoges said:
That does sound interesting! I have been reading about scrog and was actually thinking about trying it. In a grow tent, how much height would you need for non-scrog? The tent I was looking at is 5 ft tall.
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Well if you top them or train them you can grow some good sized plants and only have them 2-2.5 ft high add on to that 10inch for pots and your space between light and plant and a filter up top, it can be done, probably a little tight for head room. But not to much bother, stick with indicas if you do only have 5ft height.
My mate has a 3x3, that's 5ft9 tall. he grows vertically though but has room for 2-3 levels of plants in that height, 3 shelves one above the other.
Anyway, take your time, don't rush into buying, have a good look at what is available. You've made a big leap and bought an awesome light , the main thing is you get the most out of it and enjoy the journey.
 
coreywebster

coreywebster

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gunoges said:
I actually ordered the linear one, not square. I had already went over budget by 60$ and it was $20 more expensive, lol. Would it be worthwhile? I already changed my order to include the mount, they're going to hate me when I change it again. :eyesmoke:
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Ah right, stick with your idea of a 3x2 tent in that case. I assumed it was the square set up.
Don't let me distract you from your plans. :weed:
 
gunoges

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coreywebster said:
Well if you top them or train them you can grow some good sized plants and only have them 2-2.5 ft high add on to that 10inch for pots and your space between light and plant and a filter up top, it can be done, probably a little tight for head room. But not to much bother, stick with indicas if you do only have 5ft height.
My mate has a 3x3, that's 5ft9 tall. he grows vertically though but has room for 2-3 levels of plants in that height, 3 shelves one above the other.
Anyway, take your time, don't rush into buying, have a good look at what is available. You've made a big leap and bought an awesome light , the main thing is you get the most out of it and enjoy the journey.
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Thanks for the advice man!


coreywebster said:
Ah right, stick with your idea of a 3x2 tent in that case. I assumed it was the square set up.
Don't let me distract you from your plans. :weed:
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Ha, no worries! I appreciate the input! I think further down the road this might turn into a vegging tent anyways, so I might be able to upgrade at that point.
 
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