Democrats in the Senate who voted to confirm Rex Tillerson as Secretary of State

[Justin-case]

Secretary of State Tex Drillerson!

Who said that first?

I'm embarrassed for our country.

My old man is now calling him, Tex drillerson, lmao.

 

[ttystikk]

My old man is now calling him, Tex drillerson, lmao.

Hat's off to your dad; credit where it's due!

 

[SneekyNinja]

He mentioned this to me years ago, oddly enough.

I respect his fandom although I don't share in it. I'm much more interested in the treats he sends - stuff from Belgium, Denmark, France, etc. - everything from stroopwafels to jarred fish.

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All sorts of treats....

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I'm gonna be controversial and say they probably have the best cannabis in the world there too.

Anywhere with a Dutch border/near to one has truly mind blowing weed, I used about 1/5th of what I use normally over there and Ive been a daily smoker for over a decade.

 

[Unclebaldrick]

It's not infected. It's very clean, as am I.

I think maybe the current situation involving Drumpf and his crew of monsters has you seeing/feeling things that simply aren't there.



It's unfortunate that you feel this way. I'll no longer interact with you, nor will I insult or disrespect you as you have me.

She's on a roll. It's your fault though.

 

[Big_Lou]

on a roll.

I could go for a lobster roll or three. Tricky in a landlocked/redneck area, though, unless you don't mind frozen stuff.



Supposedly there is a downtown place that has large tanks/live bugs, so we'll check 'em out...

 

[ttystikk]

Mark Warner (VA)

Heidi Heitkamp (ND)

Joe Manchin (WV)

Angus King (I-ME)


Add each of them to the list of enemies against Justice Democrats

We need to get the word out.

I'm thinking we print a short list of demands, such as;

1. taxpayer bailouts before corporate greed
2. No more unlimited campaign contributions
3. Demilitarized police
4. Universal health care
5. Claw back the $3 TRILLION DOLLARS wasted on Lockheed Martin's Joint Strike Fighter boondoggle
6. No more laws abridging our constitutional rights, such as 'protest zones' or the 'right' of police to violently break up the People's Right of Assembly

Then print up dozens of these and hand them to your friends and associates. Encourage them to hand, mail or email the list to all their friends.

We have a country to take back. The rich stole it and with it our prosperity, leaving us to fight the fascist militarized 'security state' while we all drown in debt.

 

[SneekyNinja]

We need to get the word out.

I'm thinking we print a short list of demands, such as;

1. taxpayer bailouts before corporate greed
2. No more unlimited campaign contributions
3. Demilitarized police
4. Universal health care
5. Claw back the $3 TRILLION DOLLARS wasted on Lockheed Martin's Joint Strike Fighter boondoggle
6. No more laws abridging our constitutional rights, such as 'protest zones' or the 'right' of police to violently break up the People's Right of Assembly

Then print up dozens of these and hand them to your friends and associates. Encourage them to hand, mail or email the list to all their friends.

We have a country to take back. The rich stole it and with it our prosperity, leaving us to fight the fascist militarized 'security state' while we all drown in debt.

The disgusting thing about 5 is its pretty much obsolete now too.

 

[Grandpapy]

We have yet to see the cost of Exxon's dealings with Russia, Boondoggle in the making.
One good hurricane will allow wall street to shut things down, err make dealing with Russia a good deal.

 

[Unclebaldrick]

The disgusting thing about 5 is its pretty much obsolete now too.

Haven't they been working on it for about 30 years?

 

[Justin-case]

We have yet to see the cost of Exxon's dealings with Russia, Boondoggle in the making.
One good hurricane will allow wall street to shut things down, err make dealing with Russia a good deal.

Unbelievable corruption here, our country has been sold out buy a fucking oil company.
It's still beyond me how this crook was confirmed, I'm so fucking pissed off, fuck em'


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[SneekyNinja]

Haven't they been working on it for about 30 years?

1993...

24 (fucking) years.

There wasnt even Internet in 95% of houses yet, most people didn't even know it existed, less cared.

Safe to say technology has moved on?

 

[Unclebaldrick]

1993...

24 (fucking) years.

There wasnt even Internet in 95% of houses yet, most people didn't even know it existed, less cared.

Safe to say technology has moved on?

I dunno. It's not like the don't keep the plans up to date with the times. I know the argument of it having a pilot makes it obsolete is getting a lot of play but I don't think I buy it. Not that I question the logic, just the timing.

 

[SneekyNinja]

I dunno. It's not like the don't keep the plans up to date with the times. I know the argument of it having a pilot makes it obsolete is getting a lot of play but I don't think I buy it. Not that I question the logic, just the timing.

The point is they can't keep it up to date because by the time theyve a plan for updating it its out of date again.

We need to close up that money hole, the only person beating the war drum globally is Trump...

 

[Unclebaldrick]

The point is they can't keep it up to date because by the time theyve a plan for updating it its out of date again.

We need to close up that money hole, the only person beating the war drum globally is Trump...

Air superiority creates a lot of operational flexibility. Operational flexibility can diminish casualties or even avoid war altogether.

 

[SneekyNinja]

Air superiority creates a lot of operational flexibility. Operational flexibility can diminish casualties or even avoid war altogether.

3 trillion dollars could've mechanised all of our infantry and paid for some ridiculous body armour...

And we'd still have air superiority from 16's alone.

 

[Padawanbater2]

3 trillion dollars could've mechanised all of our infantry and paid for some ridiculous body armour...

And we'd still have air superiority from 16's alone.

That's an interesting point, F16s would probably do it with an upgrade across the fleet that wouldn't come anywhere near the price of the JSF program. F15s have maintained air superiority for 30+ years (no air to air losses in combat in history) and we already have a couple hundred F22s in service which are comparable to the JSFs in everything but interface and VTOL. We could potentially remove the human soldier aspect from war all together with a check worth the cost of the SJF program.

I just saw a clip today of a robot designed by MIT that can run up to 48 mph! Imagine what the future battlefield will look like with robots instead of human losses and the incredible boost to the morale of a society that has the ability to incorporate something like that.

 

[ttystikk]

That's an interesting point, F16s would probably do it with an upgrade across the fleet that wouldn't come anywhere near the price of the JSF program. F15s have maintained air superiority for 30+ years (no air to air losses in combat in history) and we already have a couple hundred F22s in service which are comparable to the JSFs in everything but interface and VTOL. We could potentially remove the human soldier aspect from war all together with a check worth the cost of the SJF program.

I just saw a clip today of a robot designed by MIT that can run up to 48 mph! Imagine what the future battlefield will look like with robots instead of human losses and the incredible boost to the morale of a society that has the ability to incorporate something like that.

That's great! We can murder without personal cost.

No way this could turn out badly...

 

[Padawanbater2]

That's great! We can murder without personal cost.

No way this could turn out badly...

Yeah exactly! I was actually thinking about the Clone Wars in Star Wars, it was basically droids v. clone Troopers. To a society who could employ either of those technologies and not actually suffer any losses of their own until the armies of droids or clones actually lost would be a very powerful advantage. If I can fuck your army up and then actually threaten you, you're much more likely to yeild to my demands.

This is a very interesting aspect of warfare I think we'll have to address eventually. If my manufacturing base can just keep pumping out reinforcements and the robots can continuously fight, how can an army like that lose? Even in guerilla warfare it wouldn't make a difference. We lose droids, who cares? We can always build more. The biggest issue would most likely be killing civilians and the public doesn't care much about that now as it is with something like the US drone program in play where they get 1 out of 10 targets right, the other 9 are just collateral damage with the right media framing the story..

 

[ttystikk]

Yeah exactly! I was actually thinking about the Clone Wars in Star Wars, it was basically droids v. clone Troopers. To a society who could employ either of those technologies and not actually suffer any losses of their own until the armies of droids or clones actually lost would be a very powerful advantage. If I can fuck your army up and then actually threaten you, you're much more likely to yeild to my demands.

This is a very interesting aspect of warfare I think we'll have to address eventually. If my manufacturing base can just keep pumping out reinforcements and the robots can continuously fight, how can an army like that lose? Even in guerilla warfare it wouldn't make a difference. We lose droids, who cares? We can always build more. The biggest issue would most likely be killing civilians and the public doesn't care much about that now as it is with something like the US drone program in play where they get 1 out of 10 targets right, the other 9 are just collateral damage with the right media framing the story..

The more I think about the implications of such technology, the more chilling thoughts and fears it holds for me.

 

[SneekyNinja]

That's an interesting point, F16s would probably do it with an upgrade across the fleet that wouldn't come anywhere near the price of the JSF program. F15s have maintained air superiority for 30+ years (no air to air losses in combat in history) and we already have a couple hundred F22s in service which are comparable to the JSFs in everything but interface and VTOL. We could potentially remove the human soldier aspect from war all together with a check worth the cost of the SJF program.

I just saw a clip today of a robot designed by MIT that can run up to 48 mph! Imagine what the future battlefield will look like with robots instead of human losses and the incredible boost to the morale of a society that has the ability to incorporate something like that.

At that point why physically fight at all?

VR headset, let's settle this shit on Battlefield 7