SIP thread -- (Sub-Irrigated Planter)

meangreengrowinmachine

meangreengrowinmachine

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Tim Fox said:
alright, i get it ,, hum,, what I hated about doing hempy buckets was having to soak up the runnoff with a turkey baster,, long story but it sucked eggs!!,,, but the thought of hempy / Sip that i dont have to do that with?,,
are you saying a sip running Nutes in the res instead of the soil would outperform a nutes in the soil sip?,,, welcome the insights
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if you dont mind going no organic i bet it would be killer!
 
meangreengrowinmachine

meangreengrowinmachine

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organic is just my preference and looking to find a low maintenance low amount of moving parts to break system for organic soil in a larger scale pot ... is why I personally got into sips.. if i has still into nutes i would do some hempy buckets with lucas formula or maybe even try out some jacks.. i started with fox farms like a stupid nub lol ... which is why I probably dont like nutes lol so many different bottles of BS lol
 
Wisher2

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Tim Fox said:
alright, i get it ,, hum,, what I hated about doing hempy buckets was having to soak up the runnoff with a turkey baster,, long story but it sucked eggs!!,,, but the thought of hempy / Sip that i dont have to do that with?,,
are you saying a sip running Nutes in the res instead of the soil would outperform a nutes in the soil sip?,,, welcome the insights
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yeah
it would basically be a DWC with coco instead of say hydroton

people have been growing passive like that for a long time

in Holland alot of people would run SOG
with coco in 1/2 gal containers stacked together
each container has a wick which hangs below into a res with nutes

or for organic just amended soil with the wick hanging in water

with mineral nutes you dont need to aerate
and for water no aeration necessary
 
meangreengrowinmachine

meangreengrowinmachine

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Wisher2 said:
yeah
it would basically be a DWC with coco instead of say hydroton

people have been growing passive like that for a long time

in Holland alot of people would run SOG
with coco in 1/2 gal containers stacked together
each container has a wick which hangs below into a res with nutes

or for organic just amended soil with the wick hanging in water

with mineral nutes you dont need to aerate
and for water no aeration necessary
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hmm i like this idea....
 
meangreengrowinmachine

meangreengrowinmachine

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Wisher2 said:
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this is what I use for my seedlings and cuttings
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the part i didnt like about hempys was getting that water out of that saucer so it didnt raise the humidity a ton but yeah wicking is a great idea .. i would love to make a huge foot print water rez with a SOG in 1 gallon pots run like 15 to 20 plants under my 600 watt hps and not have to water them all the time
 
Tim Fox

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meangreengrowinmachine said:
organic is just my preference and looking to find a low maintenance low amount of moving parts to break system for organic soil in a larger scale pot ... is why I personally got into sips.. if i has still into nutes i would do some hempy buckets with lucas formula or maybe even try out some jacks.. i started with fox farms like a stupid nub lol ... which is why I probably dont like nutes lol so many different bottles of BS lol
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it would have to be easy,, or knowing me,, i wont do the work, hahaha,, lazy i know
but, i felt like when i was doing the hempy bucket grow, that if I knew exactly how m any tablesppons of the nutes to put into say 5 gallons of water and just repeat every time,, then i woul dnot have to use meters and ph pens blah blah,, so it becomes easy,, and then just pour it into the Sip res like usual?,,, if its just that easy,, then maybe it would be easy,, or it may be the blue dream talking
 
Wisher2

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Tim Fox said:
it would have to be easy,, or knowing me,, i wont do the work, hahaha,, lazy i know
but, i felt like when i was doing the hempy bucket grow, that if I knew exactly how m any tablesppons of the nutes to put into say 5 gallons of water and just repeat every time,, then i woul dnot have to use meters and ph pens blah blah,, so it becomes easy,, and then just pour it into the Sip res like usual?,,, if its just that easy,, then maybe it would be easy,, or it may be the blue dream talking
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I use powder nutes and weigh by grams per gal
never really ph or anything

I have widdled my grows down to basically 1 step
fill res with dry nutes and water when running low
res is marked per gal so I just count the gallons that I fill and put that many g per gal back in

same amount weighed every time
 
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meangreengrowinmachine

meangreengrowinmachine

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Wisher2 said:
I use powder nutes and weigh by grams per gal
never really ph or anything

I have widdled my grows down to basically 1 step
fill res with dry nutes and water when running low
res is marked per gal so I just count the gallons that I fill and put that many g per gal back in

same amount weighed every time
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my goal is for my grow to be kinda boring lol.. i know that sounds weird but then once that happens i can start tweaking and playing with other things and strains or C02 etc
 
oragrow

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Humanrob said:
I'm doing a couple right now. One is based on a 14 gallon Rubbermaid container inside of an 18 gallon. The other is tall narrow #7 pot mated to a 5 gallon bucket. Both still need to have their drain holes drilled -- btw, how much (in inches) of an air space should I leave between the water line and the bottom of the soil container?

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Great Idea , will try it indoors and at least 1 plant outdoor this summer.
 
Humanrob

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oragrow said:
Great Idea , will try it indoors and at least 1 plant outdoor this summer.
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Wow, that has to be a quote from a while ago! LOL The 14/18 worked really well. It is a bit tall, but that's only an issue if you have vertical limitations. I'm sure I'll use those again. The other ones I mentioned -- the (basically) 5 gallon pot in a 5 gallon bucket, only held about a gallon of water and needed to be filled daily. The plants in them got to be 5+ feet tall, so if you are going that way I would start late so they don't get root-bound.

If you are going to run SIPs outdoors, I recommend either digging a hole and dropping the res part in, or using something like straw or some light colored fabric to keep the res out of the sun. I think keeping the water cool is good for the standing water, and good for the plant. The bottom line for me is that since I'm in a situation where I can put plants directly into the ground, nothing beats mother earth. SIPs are great for outdoor patio gardens, or if you are only doing planter/pot gardening. But if you have access to good soil and open ground, for me that has grown the sturdiest healthiest lowest maintenance plants. YMMV
 
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