thenotsoesoteric
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I did let that one go a little longer.That bud your holding in the pic needs to be flushed ..ASAP...looks strange ....
I did let that one go a little longer.That bud your holding in the pic needs to be flushed ..ASAP...looks strange ....
So you say big tobacco fertilizes until the end? Then it has to cure to taste good? Are you implying that tobacco finished with a flush would smoke great with no cure? I find that hard to believe. Have you tried this?
Wow that low?.. I was under the impression 800 ppm was considered light.My feeds in coir DTW never run over 600 ppm ( 1.2 ec) at max flower with most of my veg feeds in the 400-450 ppm range and I'm in the 2# range running 600 watts of HPS.
When you've grown as long as I have you'll figure it out. I'd calibrate my meter, because 800 ppm @ a .7 conversion is only 2.0 ec.Wow that low?.. I was under the impression 800 ppm was considered light.
Ec is utterly lost on me. Mix up dry nutes to 800 ppm and the ec reads around 2.4..
You do not cure your tobacco?I am implying that NOT feeding to finish will produce fat large tobacco leaves that need no "volumes of water at the end of cycle" to flush. flushing this way at the end will do nothing, unless growing in hydro perhaps. Yes, I do grow tobacco. NO, I do not flush with volumes of water. I do not add any fertilizers to my living soil during the last 20 days or so. run off is still strong though, and they taste so much better compared to the ones I've fed to the end.
flushing is for toilets.
You do not cure your tobacco?
For tobacco it is usually a fermentation cure of either the flue stick or stacked bundle variety.lets start with your definition of "cure" ?
I agree this is how big baccy does it.For tobacco it is usually a fermentation cure of either the flue stick or stacked bundle variety.
It must be defective, calibration is not off o0.When you've grown as long as I have you'll figure it out. I'd calibrate my meter, because 800 ppm @ a .7 conversion is only 2.0 ec.
Well I disagree that it can't help because it did with my run. Harvested 2 plants early, they had a quite strong taste, the others I figured why not try and two weeks of running straight water and no more taste. Not a flusher and never used additives but listened to the chemist that mixes my nutes (bad mistake). In this case it saved 2/3rds of harvest.I don't know about scientific studies, but i can tell that basing on my experience of 12 years of cannabis growing i can't taste the difference from a flushed plant from a non flushed one...
The thing i can tell you for sure is that some additives can produce a difference in taste, specially the infamous "flowering Boosters" like Bloombastic. And this can't be resolved with a flush.
Respect
NO - Not possible!Oh don't jump to conclusions just yet, If the topic was the swimming pool I'm still on the diving board, didn't do well at school ;[.
For example trying to learn about salt build ups was a pure mind fuck. The amount of reactions, various salt/chemical definitions and how they can be broken apart in water then form once dry completely lost me in all truth. All I really came away with is that chlorine in one form or other is in tap water and it's one possible component. That can be removed by gassing off (unless chloramine) but then tap water also contains chloride and sodium anyway. So I ran with the uneducated conclusion that one should grow organically with as natural water as possible or go with coco/hydro to limit the ability of salt (chemical too) to form due to cutting out dry cycles. But that does not necessarily cut out the harm such chemicals may inflict on their own.
Anybody who is actually educated ^^, am I right in thinking that the plant in fighting toxicity's can uptake and store components that make salt and then if the medium drys and the plants wilt, salt could potentially form inside the plant?. I get the feeling that's a really dumb question.
I think your meters fucked.Wow that low?.. I was under the impression 800 ppm was considered light.
Ec is utterly lost on me. Mix up dry nutes to 800 ppm and the ec reads around 2.4..
1.0EC@ .7=700PPM, @ .5= 500PPMWhen you've grown as long as I have you'll figure it out. I'd calibrate my meter, because 800 ppm @ a .7 conversion is only 2.0 ec.
No, not really (The first part). I've been on tours of a few of the ultimate cigar companies and that included the fields. The tobacco is all well cared for. The plants intended to be used as the wrappers....are cared for as much as we care for our plants. Some of these are feed as needed to a point.So you say big tobacco fertilizes until the end? Then it has to cure to taste good? Are you implying that tobacco finished with a flush would smoke great with no cure? I find that hard to believe. Have you tried this?
This will not work properly!Educate yourself by growing two of the same clones from start to finish, then flush one of them and don't flush the other. I didn't think there was a debate on whether or not to flush, but rather to use flushing agents or not, as well as to pH the water or not. Trial and error has led me, personally, to flushing with non-pHed water. However, not flushing at all results in a less preferable smoke in my opinion. I apologize for not citing any facts which is basically all you asked.
Read this and read the link at the bottom - if your still on the shelf.So being kind of a noobie here i usually tend to skim through threads from time to time trying to get ideas and snippets of information. One that I have seen pop up multiple times is that flushing is a myth and its about money for nut companies and ect. Now. I pray this doesnt turn into a debate. But i ask why this is a myth or at least believed to be. I ask that people dont come in here bashing about FLUSH FLUSH FLUSH because i am currently one of those guys. I flush gallons of ph balanced water with no cleaning agents only. So my question now is, could someone cite some sources of facts for me or link a previous thread that already does so? Please, FACTS not oppinions or bashing for doing it or not. Im simply trying to educate myself, I actually just had someone tell me to crop my plant and throw it in a bowl of water for 24 hours and thats how thwy flush it. Sounds pretty off the wall but like I said, I dont know so I am trying to educate myself.