Freedom farmer 420
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Thanks for ur much appreciated response it was just what I was looking for advice from sumone who has experience with both thnx again guy ur the best
The social media "call outs" are what put me off...with ANY breeder unless they're forced to defend themselves from attacks online of course. If MM gave the beans away with stipulations that weren't met or were ignored then he should deal with it directly. Its a shitty thing to do with free seeds and even worse with testers.If you don't want people breeding your shit stop selling. Fuck the chem fam dudes act like they own the weed world. Nobody owns strains. Everyone got a start from somebody else's shit point blank period. JJ a cry baby Archive a fucking cry baby. A bunch of cry baby bitches. Rant ended, how's everybody day going??
Damn that shit sounds good man. Shit you made me hungry fam..The social media "call outs" are what put me off...with ANY breeder unless they're forced to defend themselves from attacks online of course. If MM gave the beans away with stipulations that weren't met or were ignored then he should deal with it directly. Its a shitty thing to do with free seeds and even worse with testers.
But the "call outs", threats, and insults on social media just make them look terrible. I must be from a different time because the men I know would sooner shave their balls with bear trap then play tough guy on the internet.
Oh, btw...my days going good. About to indulge in some homemade biscuits and garlic butter moose meat followed by a puff session of Bubba and end with slice of lemon meringue pie. yeaaaaaaa boi
not really aye? this may show you that Bodhi(which I love too) has a vibe more in tune with your personal chemotype, you like their gear better, not really a testament to which one actually produces a better seed or experience, just a personal preference really, your own personal proofNot gonna lie. I've found more keepers with Bodhi than Top Dawg.
The proof is in the pudding so to speak.
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If you're going to quote me, post the whole quote in its entirety.not really aye? this may show you that Bodhi(which I love too) has a vibe more in tune with your personal chemotype, you like their gear better, not really a testament to which one actually produces a better seed or experience, just a personal preference really, your own personal proof
"keeper" is subjective.
The traits one breeder chases are very often different than traits others chase, is why we have such diversity. If all breeders chased your desired traits.....we'd all be smoking exactly what you like?
"I find keepers in every pack of seeds from every breeder I got them from", subjective?
dont think I'm arguing please, I am not. but you know we all enjoy a different effect, not just your favorites, and that is not proof of any kind in this picture , except for you right?
perfect too, some people are always looking for their holy grails, some never find them, happy you did though, can be an expensive trek for us.
I am not, do not, care not about any of these breeders. I dont keep up on the hype, or the breeder wars. I never spoke to bodhi or topdawg, and I do love both of their work. I dont sell seeds, clones, equipment, cloners, and never entered a cannabis cup or even attended one. I got no dogs in the seed race
There isn't a single breeder I could ever say that about. I have found some absolute fire with JJs gear as have countless growers/breeders...many continue to successfully use some of his select crosses to this day. No one ever claimed he didn't put out some fire.I have never grown any more satisfying cultivars in my life than those sold by Topdawg, every one I ever grew, every bean, male and female has been the best marijuana rep I've experience.
if you can check out some of his haze/tre creations, oh my
Oh geezus. I remember that shit. Fucking Rez. What a complete dildo.From my short time on this grow word TD was a force to be reckoned with some years ago. Now it seems like his shit is being watered down. But they have other breeders that have his old stock that was super fire that's making better crosses then him now and that's what JJ don't like. JJ isn't the chem lord he's far from it. JJ was fortunate to be in the right place at the right time when all that shit went down with reszdog. Can you still find fire in JJ shit I would hope so with all the packs I have of his. But with all this bitching and crying on social media that shits throws customers off.
i would put pics up, but that dont prove anything either ya know. just that I have some pics of plants is all.If you're going to quote me, post the whole quote in its entirety.
"Not gonna lie. I've found more keepers with Bodhi than Top Dawg. Its not about price as much as it is about taking a different approach to "breeding".
This thread barely has any activity at all compared to Bodhi threads here and at countless other grow forums.
The proof is in the pudding so to speak"
First. That was a reply to another member regarding price point.
Second. My statement is not directly dependent upon my experience but the countless experiences of others. There are literally thousands of grow reports on Bodhis gear. That is the indisputable proof and has very little to do with me. I added my experience...like I do with every grow I report on.
How many times have you told new members or readers inquiring about chem crosses that TD is the end-all-be-all of cannabis breeders?
There isn't a single breeder I could ever say that about. I have found some absolute fire with JJs gear as have countless growers/breeders...many continue to successfully use some of his select crosses to this day. No one ever claimed he didn't put out some fire.
And like other growers, I've also grown out some of this strains that were terrible. Completely unstable, herms, and phenos all over the map. IME, most decent breeders want the bad reports along with good. Unless of course its about the almighty dollar and they're worshipping the wrong shade of green.
I'm here to sincerely report on the strains I've grown out by JJ (an occasionally crosses with his gear) Whether they're good or bad, I will include as many details and pics possible.
And these "traits" and "personal chemotypes" you speak of...LOL C'mon...it has more to do with stability and breeding methods. If its good...its good. And if its not, well thats just how it goes.
I respect many of the growers here and because of that I will never shill for any breeder...ever.
Rather than call out the other members here who've had issues, or those that don't feel TD commands the price point when compared to similar genetics, why not simply throw up some pics of all these Top Dawg strains you've grown out? Contribute some grow reports even if its just a single pic...otherwise you come off as disingenuous.
I may not be the brightest star in the sky but dont piss on my shoes and tell me its raining.
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I'd like to try the 3 ogs #3 but im Leary every one of supposed to be ogs I've tried so far has been nothing like the real og it doesn't have to be dead on just get me real close to it just kinda tired of chasing the dragon every time I see an og strain I think of sumthing else I could be spending money on that won't disappoint
I've ran more than the Star Kush. I threw a photo up of the absolute best pheno I found (rather than the trichless others in that pack.) because as I've explained in past posts, this camera I'm using along with its SD card sank to the bottom of the river on a canoe trip last fall. I'm trying to work my way through thousands of photos while still posting "current" grow photos as well. If I dont have a pic of it or cant positively identify it I dont throw up any kind of grow report about it.Tangerine I would like to suggest that maybe you have had better luck with bodhi cause you are running his well known stable crosses. There are so many ssdd journals out there. You know what to expect when you're growing it.
Earlier you stated that you ran the star kush from top dawg. Now let's just take a step back. Star kush is one of the cheaper crosses made by top dawg. And one of the least documented. It's safe to say this line hasn't been worked much. On the flipside, the chem 91 recently released by tds (a very worked line) was reported to have underwhelming smells. Now I'm not saying you chose the wrong strains to run. But maybe just maybe you would have better luck with a more documented cross such as the stardawg ix or underdawg d. Where people are consistently reporting fire results. As they do with the ssdd from bodhi. Just my 2 cents so you don't miss out on something you may enjoy.
good luck finding that. maybe that grower used red lights and girl pee or sumpin....never to be repeated.I got it from a friend who brought it back from out of state I'm far from ne where legal or rec so we do have access to any clones I've tried the purple of 18 from DNA I've tried the of from Dina the ogchem from connoisseur could find an of leaner and a couple other just can't remember the breeder those are just what I grew out personally
Yeah. Pretty much trichless and no nose. And this is from running the females twice and the best looking one got a third run. I resisted posting details about the grow unless asked and put up the best pic due to limited info available. It was a let down but not huge. I'll probably just refrain from posting the rest.@Tangerine
trichless? what a bummer. but thats the shit I think about with reviews. not personal because I trust yours but I grew that same pack and found all of the fems to be stinking azz sticky flowers, all were really good to me. They all gave up roughly the same return in oil too, I dont get it. I've never seen weed flowered without bountiful trichs under hid's. do you use hid or led in flower?