Phillips Elite Agro 315w T12 CMH in open fixtures - Impressive!!!

[TheChemist77]

Thanks ya i was considering 2 of them in a 4x6 ??

2 315's on a 4x6 ft table works well but u need to keep them 3ft above canopy u should get 1.4 gpw easy.. at 2 ft above canopy the lights only cover a 3x3,, but at 3ft above they can cover a 4x3ft area without losing to much bud weight... i seen the greenbeams claim that the reflector will cover a 4ftx4ft area but im skepticle...

 

[Crossface Crippler]

Me too I may add some more lights to help thanks for the input. I do have the height to go up if need be. That was part of my cmh over led decision.

 

[Crossface Crippler]

ive got 4 hydrofarm phantom 315 with the remote ballasts and glass covers/vent ducts. 3100k bulbs used for 2 mos, and an extra set of new unused 4100k bulbs, pm me if interested

Cant seem to figure out pm

 

[TheChemist77]

Me too I may add some more lights to help thanks for the input. I do have the height to go up if need be. That was part of my cmh over led decision.

i run w 2 315's inline over the center of my 4x6 table then i put a 100 watt go green citizen on the right and left sides of the cmh's in the middle... i was getting smaller buds on my outside rows,,now w/ the led's its all pretty uniform.. i try to keep the led and the cmh at the same height above,, i start flower at 3ft above then after week 3- finish i go 2-2.5ft above canopy

 

[Crossface Crippler]

i run w 2 315's inline over the center of my 4x6 table then i put a 100 watt go green citizen on the right and left sides of the cmh's in the middle... i was getting smaller buds on my outside rows,,now w/ the led's its all pretty uniform.. i try to keep the led and the cmh at the same height above,, i start flower at 3ft above then after week 3- finish i go 2-2.5ft above canopy

i run w 2 315's inline over the center of my 4x6 table then i put a 100 watt go green citizen on the right and left sides of the cmh's in the middle... i was getting smaller buds on my outside rows,,now w/ the led's its all pretty uniform.. i try to keep the led and the cmh at the same height above,, i start flower at 3ft above then after week 3- finish i go 2-2.5ft above canopy

What about heat? Somewhere in between led and hps?

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

What about heat? Somewhere in between led and hps?

I can chime in here. My Sun Systems 315 LEC open reflector with a fan blowing in between the lamp and canopy is always 1-2 degrees farenheight lower than my 600w Blockbuster air cooled glass sealed reflector in the same room.

And I agree with the assertion that the 315 is equal to about 450 watts compared to the 600w hortilux Super HPS I use.

But the footprint for 1 alone is 3x3 max. I have been happy with height 16-18" over the buds which limits the footprint to a bit less. Maybe 2.5'x2.5' square. But with equal density and yield to the 600 pretty much.

And the quality in potency appearance and flavor/smell was obvious even after I finished the first plant under it for 10 days.

So I tend to ripen buds under it now. Not ready to ditch the hps for more of them yet though. I think I really would like 1 of each over the 4x6 table mentioned here.

I am really high. I wake and baked on some g-13/Skunk. Sorry for the long babbling post but hope it helps.

 

[Crossface Crippler]

I can chime in here. My Sun Systems 315 LEC open reflector with a fan blowing in between the lamp and canopy is always 1-2 degrees farenheight lower than my 600w Blockbuster air cooled glass sealed reflector in the same room.

And I agree with the assertion that the 315 is equal to about 450 watts compared to the 600w hortilux Super HPS I use.

But the footprint for 1 alone is 3x3 max. I have been happy with height 16-18" over the buds which limits the footprint to a bit less. Maybe 2.5'x2.5' square. But with equal density and yield to the 600 pretty much.

And the quality in potency appearance and flavor/smell was obvious even after I finished the first plant under it for 10 days.

So I tend to ripen buds under it now. Not ready to ditch the hps for more of them yet though. I think I really would like 1 of each over the 4x6 table mentioned here.

I am really high. I wake and baked on some g-13/Skunk. Sorry for the long babbling post but hope it helps.

Sure thanks for the input. Appreciate that.

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

Here ya go @Crossface Crippler (is that a wrestling move?)

There are not enough pics in this thread. Also check out the Club 315 thread. We have all been posting there for a while. I have since I bought the 315 last November.

For a while I ran a Phillips 315 Cmh 3100k. A Hortilux 600w Super HPS and a Hortilux 600w Blue Metal Halide.



The 315 added to the room really brings out more color than with HPS alone. And resin. Got a little UV now from it.

 

[TheChemist77]

just popped 2 mr.nice reg g13/skunk seeds,,, hope i get a good mother.. also popped 2 bcbd the big regs.. i usually pop packs of ten but i dont have alot of room in my veg now so i only popped 3 of each only 2 of each ca,me up and are growing...

sorry about this,,, but can anyone tell me the dummy version of what the lucas formula is?? n-p-k= 3-2-1?? is it that simple??

 

[frankEinstein]

i think 4 would replace a 1000 watt.(mine pulls 245 at the wall)

4 can easily replace a 1k

 

[frankEinstein]

1000 watts of cmh will blow the doors off hps all day every day.
That's the bottom line. It does everything better. From the light bill to the weight.

 

[Grower899]

just popped 2 mr.nice reg g13/skunk seeds,,, hope i get a good mother.. also popped 2 bcbd the big regs.. i usually pop packs of ten but i dont have alot of room in my veg now so i only popped 3 of each only 2 of each ca,me up and are growing...

sorry about this,,, but can anyone tell me the dummy version of what the lucas formula is?? n-p-k= 3-2-1?? is it that simple??

Lucas formula is the use of gh micro and bloom at ratios of 6ml micro/9ml bloom, to 1 gallon of water. For soiless mixes. For soil mixes its 8ml micro/16ml bloom.

You can also use maxibloom dry nutrient. I forget exactly how much but its a couple grams, or so, of maxibloom per gallon of water.