Ttystikk's vertical goodness

THCBrain

THCBrain

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ttystikk said:
I did 6" stand off from the walls but it probably isn't necessary to do so much. The main thing is good ventilation.

I went bare bulb with a fan blowing gently upwards to carry the heat up and away from the plants. LED lights work well too, just like in the shipping containers above!
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How about the dual spectrum 315w cmh?
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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JDMase said:
Can't wait til you start growing again tty, can't help but feel like myself and all your followers are missing out on some knowledge whilst you aren't. Hope things are good your end.
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Thank you very much for those kind words.

I've honestly been feeling pretty down about the whole situation.

It's really nice to be told I'm valued for my contributions!

I'll get on it as soon as I'm able, I promise.
 
Bakersfield

Bakersfield

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ttystikk said:
Meanwhile, here's an AMA vertical grow related thread. Please feel free to participate!

http://rollitup.org/t/ttystikks-hydro-technique.940165/
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I've been meaning to reply to the linked thread here, but I can't log in! The mods must currently be working their magic over there.

So I've got 2 different set ups, a 2 @ 1 thousand watt vertical bare bulb HPS and a 2 @ 1 thousand watt horizontal hood HPS grow.
I currently get roughly the same yield between the 2 rooms @ 1.5 to 2 lbs per light running fresh genetics each run. If I mono cropped a large yielding strain like my Locktite favorite I could kill it, but I like variety.

So what I would like to do is start incorporating 315 CMH into both setups but starting with the vertical.
The best solution I've found for hanging these vertically is using a mogul to CMH conversion kit plus ballast offered at Growers House.
Does anyone here have any knowledge on running these lamps vertically?
 
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JDMase

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Bakersfield said:
I've been meaning to reply to the linked thread here, but I can't log in! The mods must currently be working their magic over there.

So I've got 2 different set ups, a 2 @ 1 thousand watt vertical bare bulb HPS and a 2 @ 1 thousand watt horizontal hood HPS grow.
I currently get roughly the same yield between the 2 rooms @ 1.5 to 2 lbs per light running fresh genetics each run. If I mono cropped a large yielding strain like my Locktite favorite I could kill it, but I like variety.

So what I would like to do is start incorporating 315 CMH into both setups but starting with the vertical.
The best solution I've found for hanging these vertically is using a mogul to CMH conversion kit plus ballast offered at Growers House.
Does anyone here have any knowledge on running these lamps vertically?
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I had the same issue when clicking the link, just find it in the search on your logged in page and it'll come up
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Bakersfield said:
I've been meaning to reply to the linked thread here, but I can't log in! The mods must currently be working their magic over there.

So I've got 2 different set ups, a 2 @ 1 thousand watt vertical bare bulb HPS and a 2 @ 1 thousand watt horizontal hood HPS grow.
I currently get roughly the same yield between the 2 rooms @ 1.5 to 2 lbs per light running fresh genetics each run. If I mono cropped a large yielding strain like my Locktite favorite I could kill it, but I like variety.

So what I would like to do is start incorporating 315 CMH into both setups but starting with the vertical.
The best solution I've found for hanging these vertically is using a mogul to CMH conversion kit plus ballast offered at Growers House.
Does anyone here have any knowledge on running these lamps vertically?
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315W CMH works fine vertically. You need two per thousand watt HPS. I had poor luck mixing the two, the plants hated HPS once they had a choice!
 
Bakersfield

Bakersfield

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ttystikk said:
315W CMH works fine vertically. You need two per thousand watt HPS. I had poor luck mixing the two, the plants hated HPS once they had a choice!
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That's funny you say that because I had a lamp failure in the beginning of this current crop and I threw in a new Metal Halide bulb, (switchable ballast) that I had laying around and the plants nearest the halide are much happier with tighter and better developed buds at week 5 than those nearest the HPS.

I'm do for new bulbs so maybe if I refit with metal halides, the plants would get along with the CMH better?
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Bakersfield said:
That's funny you say that because I had a lamp failure in the beginning of this current crop and I threw in a new Metal Halide bulb, (switchable ballast) that I had laying around and the plants nearest the halide are much happier with tighter and better developed buds at week 5 than those nearest the HPS.

I'm do for new bulbs so maybe if I refit with metal halides, the plants would get along with the CMH better?
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CMH is 25%more efficient than MH with better spectrum and longer useful lamp life. Gotta have the right ballast for them tho.

BUT: If you're going to push money into lighting, go with LED. There's some great stuff here.
 
gr865

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pinner420 said:
http://www.angelfire.com/cantina/fourtwenty/articles/profiles.htm
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Thanks Pin that is interesting, I use Canna products, but only 200 ppm A&B in veg and 400 in bloom. Working well for me.

pinner420 said:
Been reading extensively on the head formula over on icmag really good read on balancing cations in coir etc...
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I used the H3ads formula for GH Micro and Bloom in coco when I was doing Hempys, got burn every grow,
I backed off the 6/9 + 1 g Epsom and went with 4/6 + 1 g Epsom and it worked better, still got lots of tip burn. Ended up at a 2/5 + the gram of mag and some Cal/mag and it worked well.
When I first began using Canna I was using their recommended rates and got burn. Since going to the lower rates no prob at all.
Now at those numbers I add GH Cal/Magic because at 200 ppm extra Calicum is needed to make up what your not getting at Cannas full rate. There is only 44 ppm of Cal at that rate and plants need around 150 ppm of cal, so I make up the difference with Cal/Magic.
That was probably too much info but it works with the nute program I am using.

GR
 
pinner420

pinner420

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gr865 said:
Thanks Pin that is interesting, I use Canna products, but only 200 ppm A&B in veg and 400 in bloom. Working well for me.



I used the H3ads formula for GH Micro and Bloom in coco when I was doing Hempys, got burn every grow,
I backed off the 6/9 + 1 g Epsom and went with 4/6 + 1 g Epsom and it worked better, still got lots of tip burn. Ended up at a 2/5 + the gram of mag and some Cal/mag and it worked well.
When I first began using Canna I was using their recommended rates and got burn. Since going to the lower rates no prob at all.
Now at those numbers I add GH Cal/Magic because at 200 ppm extra Calicum is needed to make up what your not getting at Cannas full rate. There is only 44 ppm of Cal at that rate and plants need around 150 ppm of cal, so I make up the difference with Cal/Magic.
That was probably too much info but it works with the nute program I am using.

GR
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Nice im gonna give it a shot.... plenty of manganese in my ces so i have yet to burn or even push the girls to hard. Been running 1.2 ec forever and gonna give the 1.8 a whirl...
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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pinner420 said:
Nice im gonna give it a shot.... plenty of manganese in my ces so i have yet to burn or even push the girls to hard. Been running 1.2 ec forever and gonna give the 1.8 a whirl...
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@gr865

Okay, nutes.
I use dry nutrient salts and these are really simple;
Calcium nitrate, it's a nutrient double salt
Hydro-gardens brand hydroponic special mix 5-11-26 plus micronutrients
That's your basic part A and B
I run equal amounts of the above by weight.

I run half by weight of epsom salt, also known as magnesium sulfate.

I have MKP, or monopotassium phosphate. I used to use it but not so much lately since I switched to Tupur Royal Gold substrate.

So the ratios;
2 parts Cal-N
2 parts mix
1 part epsom salt

Dissolve the calcium nitrate into solution in a separate bucket from the rest! Once everything is dissolved into solution, add them to your res with some water, then add water until you reach your desired EC. Last, adjust pH.

Stupid cheap, very simple, makes great tasty nugs.
 
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