Ttystikk's vertical goodness

ttystikk said:

315W CMH works fine vertically. You need two per thousand watt HPS. I had poor luck mixing the two, the plants hated HPS once they had a choice!

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I had the same experience when going from CMH for veg to HPS for flower. I ended up going right back to CMH for flower too

ttystikk said:

@gr865

Okay, nutes.
I use dry nutrient salts and these are really simple;
Calcium nitrate, it's a nutrient double salt
Hydro-gardens brand hydroponic special mix 5-11-26 plus micronutrients
That's your basic part A and B
I run equal amounts of the above by weight.

I run half by weight of epsom salt, also known as magnesium sulfate.

I have MKP, or monopotassium phosphate. I used to use it but not so much lately since I switched to Tupur Royal Gold substrate.

So the ratios;
2 parts Cal-N
2 parts mix
1 part epsom salt

Dissolve the calcium nitrate into solution in a separate bucket from the rest! Once everything is dissolved into solution, add them to your res with some water, then add water until you reach your desired EC. Last, adjust pH.

Stupid cheap, very simple, makes great tasty nugs.

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Hey bro. I am running 4-20-39 from Hydro and up to about week 4 of bloom. The EC PPM really starts to take off around week 4.
Greg at HG said I probably do not need MPK. Buds are starting to get bigger. At what week in bloom to they generally start to get really big? Week 7?

I was spoiled by my guru's nute but he disappeared. Really bright guy but very odd with other problems.

MMJ Dreaming 99 said:

Hey bro. I am running 4-20-39 from Hydro and up to about week 4 of bloom. The EC PPM really starts to take off around week 4.
Greg at HG said I probably do not need MPK. Buds are starting to get bigger. At what week in bloom to they generally start to get really big? Week 7?

I was spoiled by my guru's nute but he disappeared. Really bright guy but very odd with other problems.

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Not sure who you're referring to, re. Guru nute?

I don't think you'd need any more P either, there's already 20% in your mix.

Do you have a week by week chart? I just run the same sauce right thru.

ttystikk said:

Not sure who you're referring to, re. Guru nute?

I don't think you'd need any more P either, there's already 20% in your mix.

Do you have a week by week chart? I just run the same sauce right thru.

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Hydro-G has a week by week chart. By week 5 you are up to 1800 EC or PPM!

Yeah my boy from Denver is a nute guru who was gonna do his own line but he kind of weirded out. He knows his stuff.

Do you know if the area up near Nederland is still chill with MMJ? I know it is expensive but there might be something available.

MMJ Dreaming 99 said:

Hydro-G has a week by week chart. By week 5 you are up to 1800 EC or PPM!

Yeah my boy from Denver is a nute guru who was gonna do his own line but he kind of weirded out. He knows his stuff.

Do you know if the area up near Nederland is still chill with MMJ? I know it is expensive but there might be something available.

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Ned crawls with grows. Always has, always will.

I have heard of others who run their nutes that hard at peak bloom, I'm not sure it does a lot of good. I'll keep playing with it.

ttystikk said:

Ned crawls with grows. Always has, always will.

I have heard of others who run their nutes that hard at peak bloom, I'm not sure it does a lot of good. I'll keep playing with it.

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Bro - I think I may be pushing it too hard at week 4 and 5 at 1400 ppm. RH 6.0. About 80.5 deg F and 46% RH/ Dri[p 6 times a night in tupru with cloth pots. Lower water leaves getting some rust and tiny yellow spots. Some tips on the edge curling up.

Am I too hot on high PPM and back it down? Thanks.
PS: How is our buddy Afghan King?

MMJ Dreaming 99 said:

Bro - I think I may be pushing it too hard at week 4 and 5 at 1400 ppm. RH 6.0. About 80.5 deg F and 46% RH/ Dri[p 6 times a night in tupru with cloth pots. Lower water leaves getting some rust and tiny yellow spots. Some tips on the edge curling up.

Am I too hot on high PPM and back it down? Thanks.
PS: How is our buddy Afghan King?

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@Afgan King has just been busy lately, he's doing his thing.

I've been running EC 2.3 pretty constantly, my RH has been between 50 and 60%, temps in the low 80s under LED lights. The only time I got any leaf issues is when they get too dry, that happened where the fan was blowing directly on the plant.

ttystikk said:

@Afgan King has just been busy lately, he's doing his thing.

I've been running EC 2.3 pretty constantly, my RH has been between 50 and 60%, temps in the low 80s under LED lights. The only time I got any leaf issues is when they get too dry, that happened where the fan was blowing directly on the plant.

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Trying to keep my RH at at least 45 to 47% Sometimes it goes higher but never about 55%. Temps at 83 on high end and 79 to 80 usually under lights. Maybe RH too low..

It seems since going from about 1200 EC PPM to about 1450 ppm - I notice leaf change. The fans blow over the plants and lightly on plants.

I need more Hydro-gardens because they only had 6 lb bags of 4-20-39. Maybe I will take a leaf over and see if the gals can have Greg check it. The one lady does gardening - maybe reg gardening not MMJ/
Thanks.

MMJ Dreaming 99 said:

Trying to keep my RH at at least 45 to 47% Sometimes it goes higher but never about 55%. Temps at 83 on high end and 79 to 80 usually under lights. Maybe RH too low..

It seems since going from about 1200 EC PPM to about 1450 ppm - I notice leaf change. The fans blow over the plants and lightly on plants.

I need more Hydro-gardens because they only had 6 lb bags of 4-20-39. Maybe I will take a leaf over and see if the gals can have Greg check it. The one lady does gardening - maybe reg gardening not MMJ/
Thanks.

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Please do keep us informed about what they say.

"that happened where the fan was blowing directly on the plant."<---!!!!

550 ppm, 5.7 to 6.0 pH, 81 to 84 degrees F, RH 49 to 55%
Does look like they dried some and caused some possible lock out as that to me looks to be mag deficiency.

GR

gr865 said:

550 ppm, 5.7 to 6.0 pH, 81 to 84 degrees F, RH 49 to 55%
Does look like they dried some and caused some possible lock out as that to me looks to be mag deficiency.

GR

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So decrease nute PPMs, try to get the RH a bit. I will add a bit of Cal mag. I flushed a little with 6.0 and use Rev Osmosis water. I try to run fans above plants and below lights. The plants get gentle air blowing over plants. Thanks.

Looking into lung rooms....

714steadyeddie said:

That's far out. The wife and I been thinking about building a home out of freight containers down the road. Nice to know you can build a grow room as well.

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Look into the insulation you will need. I have a 45' shipper..half of its insulated (flower room). The veg is out of commish bc the temps flux too much right now. Im getting the spray foam done which is pricey af..Im dragging my feet bc I have to rip everything out...oh and its pricey af. Figure 3g delivered( per 45' unit), insulation 1-2$k,framing, support beams where cut outs are, wired, sheet rocked,plumbing..it gets insane monies.


Hi tyy

We converted a C-can and it was IMO a pain in the ass lol. We through bolted 2x6 framing to the perimeter to fasten all framing. Should have spray foamed but we just used batt insulation and in the colder months the skin sweated even with a great vapour barrier. We are actually thinking of removing the doors and framing in a regular man door. Not sure what is invested as it's an ongoing build it as you get it type of thing and it would just make me sad lol.

Diabolical666 said:

Look into the insulation you will need. I have a 45' shipper..half of its insulated (flower room). The veg is out of commish bc the temps flux too much right now. Im getting the spray foam done which is pricey af..Im dragging my feet bc I have to rip everything out...oh and its pricey af. Figure 3g delivered( per 45' unit), insulation 1-2$k,framing, support beams where cut outs are, wired, sheet rocked,plumbing..it gets insane monies.


Hi tyy

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A few years ago my boss got the contract to to make up about 50 mini 10 foot conexes into modular living and crew bathroom facilities for use on the oil platforms out in the Cook Inlet up here in Alaska. They are stackable and highly mobile to accommodate the changing storage and work zones on the platform.

We would install shaft board metal studs to the interior and then place polyiso insulation sheets between the channels.
They were then rocked with DensGlas paperless drywall and covered with FRP for easy clean up.

Bakersfield said:

A few years ago my boss got the contract to to make up about 50 mini 10 foot conexes into modular living and crew bathroom facilities for use on the oil platforms out in the Cook Inlet up here in Alaska. They are stackable and highly mobile to accommodate the changing storage and work zones on the platform.

We would install shaft board metal studs to the interior and then place polyiso insulation sheets between the channels.
They were then rocked with DensGlas paperless drywall and covered with FRP for easy clean up.

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Condensation is the issue. My concern with insulation sheets is water trapped behind it. The foam spray shit stops that all together. You can even get some that can withstand uva sun damage so yiu can spray a layer on the outside also.

Heres a visual

Diabolical666 said:

Condensation is the issue. My concern with insulation sheets is water trapped behind it. The foam spray shit stops that all together. You can even get some that can withstand uva sun damage so yiu can spray a layer on the outside also.

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Yeah, that makes sense, the best vapor barrier is closed cell spray foam.
Exterior spray foam is loved by animals and insects too. It's so easy for them to carve out a home in the stuff.
That reminds me of Fairbanks, Ak, it's so cold in the winter there that everywhere there's spray foam on the exterior of things from Quonset huts to water tanks. It's mostly the old urethane sprays that turns orange in the sun and will light up on fire if exposed to flame.

To be honest I don't recall whether or not we drilled weep holes in the flooring to drain any condensation that accumulated on the Steel skin, however we did paint these units for an extreme marine environment and any condensation would have minimum effect, at least for the projected service life of the unit- these oil companies just love to throw money around so the service life could have been very short.

Good point on bugs and animals pecking away at it lol. Wonder if I could do the outside and spray some kind of sealant on that to keep from that happening. Hmmm...lol thanks for the insight