How many people understand the US Constitution?

[Rob Roy]

with 11 year olds?

@tampee

I bought some girl scout cookies from a girl about 10 or 11 on a consensual basis. It was mostly charity on my part as I try not to eat too much sugary stuff.

Are you saying that an 11 year old lacks the wherewithal to understand a consensual trade ?

 

[Rob Roy]

no, civil rights is about equal rights for everyone, regardless of race. you even called this debate a debate about civil rights just a day or two ago.



see?

now that it exposes your stance for the pure, unadulterated racial segregation that it is, you are trying to make it be about something else.

it's not though.

ordering lunch while black is not "initiating force" you dumb racist retard.

I think we agree that everyone regardless of race should be able to determine the use of their own body don't we ?

 

[Rob Roy]

you're just bitter because the government prosecuted you for inappropriately touching that 11 year old boy who you claimed totally consented.

pedophile.

That's quite a fallacious allegation, even for you.

I think you're just bitter because when the conversation turns to philosophical questions, your tactics are exposed for their inanity. That was a nice way for me to say, you're sort of dull.

 

[Rob Roy]

no, civil rights is about equal rights for everyone, regardless of race. you even called this debate a debate about civil rights just a day or two ago.



see?

now that it exposes your stance for the pure, unadulterated racial segregation that it is, you are trying to make it be about something else.

it's not though.

ordering lunch while black is not "initiating force" you dumb racist retard.

Correct, ordering lunch by itself is not initiating force.

Threatening force to demand a person serve you who would prefer not to, is though. It doesn't matter the arrangement of the participants races either.

 

[DiogenesTheWiser]

I'll make an argument right here.

Government is illegitimate in that it purports to have rights which no person has. If government is a thing which consists of people, my argument is unassailable, since you cannot aggregate a sum of zeroes and arrive at anything other than zero.

So why do you think it'd be a good idea to not have any government?

 

[Rob Roy]

are you seriously trying to compare buying cookies to diddling kids?

you sick fuck.

no wonder you think that a black person ordering lunch is slavery and rape. you are one stunted, sick, twisted fuck.

No. I never mentioned diddling kids. It seems to be something you think about and talk about alot though. It's a little creepy, especially coming from you, a guy who thinks defecating on a floor is "normal behavior"

 

[Rob Roy]

So why do you think it'd be a good idea to not have any government?

I think it would be a good idea not to have a coercion based government.

I'm not in favor of involuntary human relations.

Why are you in favor of involuntary human relations / coercion based governments ?

 

[abandonconflict]

So, are you saying without government (as a central authority) that property ownership would not or could not exist ?

You're the only idiot who doesn't know the difference between private and personal property and you're also the only idiot who thinks owning land is like owning tools. After all these years, you still repeat these stupid questions incessantly and think you're winning debates when really we're all just toying with you to find the funniest way to call you a pedo.

 

[DiogenesTheWiser]

I think it would be a good idea not to have a coercion based government.

I'm not in favor of involuntary human relations.

Why are you in favor of involuntary human relations / coercion based governments ?

So you are in favor of government. Okay, so you're not an anarchist. My bad.

 

[Rob Roy]

You're the only idiot who doesn't know the difference between private and personal property and you're also the only idiot who thinks owning land is like owning tools. After all these years, you still repeat these stupid questions incessantly and think you're winning debates when really we're all just toying with you to find the funniest way to call you a pedo.

Coming from an "Anarchist" who lives on the government dole, that's pretty funny.

Are tools made from natural resources ?

 

[Rob Roy]

So you are in favor of government. Okay, so you're not an anarchist. My bad.

No, I am not in favor of it for me, at least in the form it most often exists now.

I have no objection to you and your friends creating a government amongst yourselves by mutual agreement. Panarchy.

 

[abandonconflict]

Coming from an "Anarchist" who lives on the government dole, that's pretty funny.

Are tools made from natural resources ?

1. I don't live on gov't dole. I was disabled as a result of military service and now I am not.
2. Capitalism and anarchism are mutually exclusive terms.
3. You are not an anarchist as you have demonstrated repeatedly that you do not understand wherewithal to consent.
4. Your question is irrelevant as we're referring to private property and not personal property.
5. Your arguments are that old.

 

[Rob Roy]

1. I don't live on Gov't dole. I was disabled as a result of military service and now I am not.
2. Capitalism and anarchism are mutually exclusive terms.
3. You are not an anarchist as you have demonstrated repeatedly that you do not understand wherewithal to consent.
4. Your question is irrelevant as we're referring to private property and not personal property.

Oh, well then good for you. You've paid all those people back, who did not give their consent to support you? You know, wherewithal to consent and all (smirk) .

 

[abandonconflict]

So you are in favor of government. Okay, so you're not an anarchist. My bad.

He is a feudalist. His "philosophy" is that of anarchocapitalism, which is an oxymoron since private property can not exist in the absence of gov't. He simply wants the state apparatus privatized.

 

[Rob Roy]

He is a feudalist. His "philosophy" is that of anarchocapitalism, which is an oxymoron since private property can not exist in the absence of gov't. He simply wants the state apparatus privatized.

*cannot

I self identify as a Voluntaryist.

My philosophy is that human relations should arise from mutual agreement / be voluntary.

 

[Rob Roy]

Here's a suggestion that might speed things up @Rob Roy :

Why don't you post a thread and in it you state your best argument (hopefully with citations) for no government. I'll make an argument in a separate thread for government. Then we can poke holes in each.

What'dya say? Let's set a deadline, like Friday or something and we create our threads at the same time.

So, you haven't refuted what I said. Does that mean I win ?

 

[Big_Lou]

I bought some girl scout cookies from a girl about 10 or 11 on a consensual basis.
Are you saying that an 11 year old lacks the wherewithal to understand a consensual trade ?

Huh. Not cringeworthy whatsoever.

 

[Rob Roy]

Huh. Not cringeworthy whatsoever.

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lol.

 

[Rob Roy]

My point is, that's true when it comes to personal matters, even if I disagree with that mentality, not business matters. Everyone needs to eat. Everyone needs medicine. I can't imagine how you'd survive under those circumstances if the roles were reversed and no one in town would feed you, but I definitely wouldn't call it alright. It's totally unacceptable.

To be clear. I've never said I applaud a racists point of view. I don't. I think it's stupid.

I just don't have any right to make any person serve me, using their body and their property against their will. Neither do you or anyone. I've yet to have anyone on this forum address that point in a serious way.

 

[UncleBuck]

Huh. Not cringeworthy whatsoever.

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he's definitely a pedophile.