GR’s Stacked 315W CMH Vertical, G13 Haze, 2017
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gr865
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Just got back from holiday w/GF, to the mountains. had a GR8 time.
Yes, that is a GR8 idea. Thank you buddy! I will do that, has not been a prob. since I left for holiday because they have been sucking in so much more and almost totally drying between waterings.
I got back today and they were extremely dry.
I am about to post an update so will give info on what''s up then.
GR
gr865
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Weekly update!
Day 27 from sprout.
A couple of days behind on my post, took a much needed trip to the Ozarks with my GF.
Had a friend plant sit, gave him written instructions on pH'ing and adding ready made gallons of nute mix, talked to him daily and all seemed fine. But he did not recognize that the plants were drinking more and needed more water/nutes. So got home yesterday and they were lite, lite lite, dry, dry dry, not much wilting but some of the lower leaves on the three largest plant had yellowed. Gave them a good soaking about an hour and then hand watered in the nutes solution with Great White to each plant.
He was very pH conscious and monitor it daily and would make sure it was 5.8 +/-, even though it was set to water every other day, that was fine, he is learning. Setting him up with clones from this grow, so taking him under my wing, lending him extra equipment I have and willing to share all the knowledge I have acquired.
Anyway, no harm no foul, maybe set them back a few days. This morning after the heavy drinch I gave them last night they had taken in most of the solution, so I gave them another good watering.
4/8
4/16
4/8
4/17
GR
Day 27 from sprout.
A couple of days behind on my post, took a much needed trip to the Ozarks with my GF.
Had a friend plant sit, gave him written instructions on pH'ing and adding ready made gallons of nute mix, talked to him daily and all seemed fine. But he did not recognize that the plants were drinking more and needed more water/nutes. So got home yesterday and they were lite, lite lite, dry, dry dry, not much wilting but some of the lower leaves on the three largest plant had yellowed. Gave them a good soaking about an hour and then hand watered in the nutes solution with Great White to each plant.
He was very pH conscious and monitor it daily and would make sure it was 5.8 +/-, even though it was set to water every other day, that was fine, he is learning. Setting him up with clones from this grow, so taking him under my wing, lending him extra equipment I have and willing to share all the knowledge I have acquired.
Anyway, no harm no foul, maybe set them back a few days. This morning after the heavy drinch I gave them last night they had taken in most of the solution, so I gave them another good watering.
4/8
4/16
4/8
4/17
GR
gr865
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Hi y'all, trying to get caught up after vacation.
Both lights installed and are 14" from the plants, fan is at 50%, room temperature is 79 degrees and humidity is 49%. House temp is 76 and the humidity is 63% indoors.
I was concerned that with the two lights temps would get out of control. But it is not happening. Thanks to you guys that have used the 315's for the advice and assurance that the temps would be fine. Having the, ballast outside the tent helps with the heat.
Cut everything from the backs of the plants, put them on their individual stand/screens and they got their first binding to the screens.
Bottom light stand put in place above the fan, upper fixture in place and the lamps installed in both fixtures.
Had to adjust the upper light letting a single link out to get the light parallel.
Closed the circle
Lights on, back of the hand heat test complete and all is good to go.
Will probably run the upper light 24/7 and the lower light 18/6 for a few days and see how it goes.
Any thoughts on this folks?
I have plenty of time for veg as I really don't need to go to 12/12 mid July, so I will do some manipulation of the ladies. LST for sure, with some bending to fill bare areas with growth, SuperCropping, have wanted to do SC on Vert growing since I did it for height control in an earlier grow and got fab results from it. Thinking that as each branch reaches the sides of the screens, plus 4 to 6 inches, SC at that point with will stimulate each node below the SC point to produce more. At least that is what I have seen in the past.
The branch in the far back and nearest to the camera where SC'ed to control height. The buds, at each node below the SC, along the stem are 4 to 6 inches long. Compared to the rest of the branches where the buds at each node along the stem are 3 inches max.
GR
Both lights installed and are 14" from the plants, fan is at 50%, room temperature is 79 degrees and humidity is 49%. House temp is 76 and the humidity is 63% indoors.
I was concerned that with the two lights temps would get out of control. But it is not happening. Thanks to you guys that have used the 315's for the advice and assurance that the temps would be fine. Having the, ballast outside the tent helps with the heat.
Cut everything from the backs of the plants, put them on their individual stand/screens and they got their first binding to the screens.
Bottom light stand put in place above the fan, upper fixture in place and the lamps installed in both fixtures.
Had to adjust the upper light letting a single link out to get the light parallel.
Closed the circle
Lights on, back of the hand heat test complete and all is good to go.
Will probably run the upper light 24/7 and the lower light 18/6 for a few days and see how it goes.
Any thoughts on this folks?
I have plenty of time for veg as I really don't need to go to 12/12 mid July, so I will do some manipulation of the ladies. LST for sure, with some bending to fill bare areas with growth, SuperCropping, have wanted to do SC on Vert growing since I did it for height control in an earlier grow and got fab results from it. Thinking that as each branch reaches the sides of the screens, plus 4 to 6 inches, SC at that point with will stimulate each node below the SC point to produce more. At least that is what I have seen in the past.
The branch in the far back and nearest to the camera where SC'ed to control height. The buds, at each node below the SC, along the stem are 4 to 6 inches long. Compared to the rest of the branches where the buds at each node along the stem are 3 inches max.
GR
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gr865
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Sorry folks those date on the pics are incorrect, stoned Hippy!
Should be
5/8, 5/16
5/8, 5/17
GR
gr865
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Just had to post this, I am using Roots Excelerator Gold and low rate of Rhizotonic.
Two gallon SmartPots
Did a little tuck and tie tonight.
I bent the lowest branches over themselves to give them better light and fill in the bare center area.
I have done very little defo, not sure when I should start. Mainly just some fans that had been tucked and the bud site began to produced larger fans.
GR
Two gallon SmartPots
Did a little tuck and tie tonight.
I bent the lowest branches over themselves to give them better light and fill in the bare center area.
I have done very little defo, not sure when I should start. Mainly just some fans that had been tucked and the bud site began to produced larger fans.
GR
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Hey gr865 ive just got myself some of that orange netting. When you say tuck and tie, do you tuck the ones that are long and tie the ones that are too short?
I ask because ive just realised that ive weaved all mine through my net and it's going to be a real pain come harvest. Cheers
I ask because ive just realised that ive weaved all mine through my net and it's going to be a real pain come harvest. Cheers
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gr865
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I tie the branches to the net and tuck the fans through the net.
Here you see the main stem and the branches tied to the screen
Enlarge it to see the tiesThis is basically it, the first branch is secured to the smart pot, then each of the other branches are bound to the screen.
Fans tucked through the screen left side of pic, the lamp side is tied back to the screen, exposing the inner nodes of the plant, all grow points get light.
Front side
Back side
Few pics of the tucked leaves.
Here you can see the leaves tucked and the faces of the other plants around the light.
Hope this helps.
GR
gr865
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Please explain, I am not sure what you mean.
I am fairly old, considered a senior, but I use brains instead of brawn.
Each plants has its own screen and irrigation feed. I disconnect the feed using a quick disconnect coupler and lift the plants out of the tent to work on them. They sit on a frame made of PVC so the slide around the catchment tray easily as needed.
GR
The plants are only 11" from the light now.
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Thanks detailed as ever! You spoil me
verticalgrow
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gr865
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If you mean the 4 pvc pieces at the corners of the light. Thanks I have been meaning to take those out. They should be about an 1 tall, to hold the light frame.hi GR,
What is the pvc a few inches away from the light doing
They have been there since I built the stand and I keep wanting to take them out and replace them with 1" pieces.
I will be taking my that lower lamp back to my Hydro store as soon as my new lamp comes in, the one I have has a short in it, Phillips Elite. Got a call as I am typing, my lamp is in.
So I will be pulling the stand out of the tent and replacing the lamp and will replace the pvc then.
Thanks for the reminder.
GR
gr865
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Today I change the rez, been over three weeks and getting a pond odor. It had about 12 gallons remaining in the rez.
What I did was set the pH at 5.84, 1.1 EC and flush all that remaining solution through the smart pot. Finish EC was 589 and pH was 5.77.
I pull one gallon out and added Great White and SM90 (for fungal gnats, don't have don't want them), After the entire flush I poured the gallon of solution over the coco.
I prepared 10 gallons using RO and Rain water. 1.15 EC, will let it sit till tomorrow then before I irrigate I will adjust the pH to 5.8 +/-. Going to try and keep around 10 gallons in the rez, any more and it goes bad in a few weeks. May need to change more often, don't really see it as a problem but don't want or need any problems with this grow.
What I did was set the pH at 5.84, 1.1 EC and flush all that remaining solution through the smart pot. Finish EC was 589 and pH was 5.77.
I pull one gallon out and added Great White and SM90 (for fungal gnats, don't have don't want them), After the entire flush I poured the gallon of solution over the coco.
I prepared 10 gallons using RO and Rain water. 1.15 EC, will let it sit till tomorrow then before I irrigate I will adjust the pH to 5.8 +/-. Going to try and keep around 10 gallons in the rez, any more and it goes bad in a few weeks. May need to change more often, don't really see it as a problem but don't want or need any problems with this grow.
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gr865
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Thanks again VG,hi GR,
What is the pvc a few inches away from the light doing
I have been meaning to replace those corner post since I put the lower lamp in place.
While I was changing the lamp stand I also reaised it about 6 inches.
Got Roots? What ya think,
I am amazed at the root mass, Cool beans!
GR
verticalgrow
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Thanks again VG,
I have been meaning to replace those corner post since I put the lower lamp in place.
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While I was changing the lamp stand I also reaised it about 6 inches.
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Got Roots? What ya think,
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GR
ur welcome GR & that looks a 100 times better 
Roots are happy & loving the enviroment,
when are u going to flip