Manchester Bombing; why it's time to face facts

ttystikk

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http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/05/23/manchester-attacks-what-price-hypocrisy/

MAY 23, 2017
Manchester Attacks: What Price Hypocrisy?

by JOHN WIGHT

The lack of a coherent anti-terrorism strategy in Washington and by extension the West, as emergency services deal with the devastating aftermath of yet another terrorist atrocity in Europe – this time a suicide bomb attack at a concert in Manchester, England – has been thrown into sharp relief during President Trump’s tour of the Middle East.

Specifically, on what planet can Iran be credibly accused of funding and supporting terrorism while Saudi Arabia is considered a viable partner in the fight against terrorism? This is precisely the narrative we are being invited to embrace by President Trump in what counts as a retreat from reality into the realms of fantasy, undertaken in service not to security but commerce.

Indeed those still struggling to understand why countries such as the US, UK, and France consistently seek to legitimise a Saudi regime that is underpinned by the medieval religious doctrine of Wahhabism, which is near indistinguishable from the medieval religious extremism and fanaticism of Daesh and Nusra in Syria – those people need look no further than the economic relations each of those countries enjoy with Riyadh.

The announcement that Washington has just sealed a mammoth deal with its Saudi ally on arms sales – worth $110 billion immediately and $350 billion over 10 years – is all the incentive the US political and media establishment requires to look the other way when it comes to the public beheadings, crucifixions, eye gouging, and other cruel and barbaric punishments meted out in the Kingdom on a regular basis.

The sheer unreality of Saudi Arabia’s King Salman, as he stood shoulder to shoulder with President Trump during the latter’s state visit to the country recently, lamenting the chaos and carnage in Syria, which he described as having been “one of the most advanced countries” prior to a conflict that has wrought so much death and destruction, the sheer unreality of this is off the scale – and especially so considering the role the Saudis have played in providing material, financial, and ideological and religious support to groups engaged in the very carnage in Syria as has just been unleashed in Manchester.

There are times when the truth is not enough, when only the unvarnished truth will do, and in the wake of the Manchester attack – in which at time of writing 22 people have been killed and 60 injured – we cannot avoid the conclusion that neither principle nor rationality is driving Western foreign policy in the Middle East, or as it pertains to terrorism.

Instead it is being driven by unalloyed hypocrisy, to the extent that when such carnage occurs in Syria, as it has unremittingly over the past 6 years, the perpetrators are still described in some quarters as rebels and freedom fighters, yet when it takes place in Manchester or Paris or Brussels, etc., they are depicted as terrorists. Neither is it credible to continue to demonize governments that are in the front line against this terrorist menace – i.e. Iran, Russia, Syria – while courting and genuflecting at the feet of governments that are exacerbating it – i.e. Saudi Arabia, previously mentioned, along with Qatar, Kuwait, and Turkey. Here, too, mention must be made of the brutal and ongoing injustice meted out to the Palestinians by an Israeli government that shares with the Saudis a doctrine of religious exceptionalism and supremacy, one that is inimical to peace or the security of its own people.

Ultimately a choice has to be made between security and stability or economic and geopolitical advantage, with the flag of democracy and human rights losing its lustre in recent years precisely because the wrong choice has been made – in other words a Faustian pact with opportunism.

As the smoke clears, both literally and figuratively, from yet another terrorist atrocity, we are forced to consider how we arrived at this point. And when we do we cannot but understand the role of Western extremism in giving birth to and nourishing Salafi-jihadi extremism. Moreover, in the midst of the understandable and eminently justifiable grief we feel at events in Manchester, it behooves us not to forget the salient fact that Muslims have and continue to be the biggest victims of this terrorist menace, unleashed in the name of religious purity andsectarianism, and that it is Muslims who are also doing most to confront and fight it, whether in Syria, Iraq, Libya, or Afghanistan. It should not escape our rendering of the issue either that what each of those countries have in common is that they have all been victims of the Western extremism mentioned earlier.

It bears repeating: you cannot continue to invade, occupy, and subvert Muslim and Arab countries and not expect consequences. And when those consequences amount to the slaughter and maiming of your own citizens, the same tired and shallow platitudes we are ritually regaled with by politicians and leaders intent on bolstering their anti-terrorism and security credentials achieve little except induce nausea.

Enough is enough.
 

Lightgreen2k

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Why cannot a cannabis forum Just be that. Don't you have friends or wife in real life and community centers to spark change.

@ttystikk
I'm not coming for you persay...

You wrote an essay..
For what?

What will be will BE.

will you be alive in 2100 No...
2200 No ....
2300 No....

Whatever is going on earth will happen. Just like that in human race will continue when you are dead. This right now is just a spec in time...
 
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sixstring2112

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Politics...3x new post.

Rant done..

Life will continue as did the

Chen dynasty
Roman empire
Greek empire.

Things happen in human time. What Spiritual force are you going to use to stop what will be. Nothing
its called trump derangement syndrome,and they do it for the "likes" because it makes them feel significant again.the shock of hillary losing was overwhelming to their emotions. let them vent their emotions or they might have a mental breakdown lol.
 

Justin-case

Well-Known Member
View attachment 3949218

Politics...3x new post.

Rant done..

Life will continue as did the

Chen dynasty
Roman empire
Greek empire.

Things happen in human time. What Spiritual force are you going to use to stop what will be. Nothing

What a stupid shitty post x3, Gfy . just because youre intellectually lazy, weak, and ineffective, doesnt mean our fate is predetermed. Why not just tell the truth, your life sucks and you dont want to take any responsibility for it ?
 

Lightgreen2k

Well-Known Member
What a stupid shitty post x3, Gfy . just because youre intellectually lazy, weak, and ineffective, doesnt mean our fate is predetermed. Why not just tell the truth, your life sucks and you dont want to take any responsibility for it ?
You have No idea who I am. Position in Life or what Not. You will be Dead In 70 years most and then what. You life sucks to let a single post get you up in arms.

A simple post. It's 10:34 Est Do something with your useless life instead of letting a post get to you..

I have know need to swear or try to insult you as My life is not incomplete as yours.
 
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dagwood45431

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You have No idea who I am. Position in Life or what Not. You will be Dead In 70 years most and then what. You life sucks to let a single post get you up in arms.

A simple post. It'# 10:34 Est Do something your useless life instead of letting a post get to you..

I have know need to swear or try to insult you as My life is not incomplete as yours.
So, what triggered you, exactly?
 

Cookie Thumper

New Member
You have No idea who I am. Position in Life or what Not. You will be Dead In 70 years most and then what. You life sucks to let a single post get you up in arms.

A simple post. It'# 10:34 Est Do something your useless life instead of letting a post get to you..

I have know need to swear or try to insult you as My life is not incomplete as yours.
You are a great farmer and I respect your point of view as well as those who want to discuss the issues.
 

Lightgreen2k

Well-Known Member
So, what triggered you, exactly?
Nothing triggered me.
I have not stated a political position.

What I did state is basically human progression will happen.

Everyday it's a new thread; on pretty much the same.

I'll ask you something different. Besides talking on this forum (Im not talking serving any time in the forces).
What have you done to prevent these happenings..
 

Justin-case

Well-Known Member
You have No idea who I am. Position in Life or what Not. You will be Dead In 70 years most and then what. You life sucks to let a single post get you up in arms.

A simple post. It's 10:34 Est Do something with your useless life instead of letting a post get to you..

I have know need to swear or try to insult you as My life is not incomplete as yours.

Don't get so emotional, sweetheart.
 

PCXV

Well-Known Member
You have No idea who I am. Position in Life or what Not. You will be Dead In 70 years most and then what. You life sucks to let a single post get you up in arms.

A simple post. It's 10:34 Est Do something with your useless life instead of letting a post get to you..

I have know need to swear or try to insult you as My life is not incomplete as yours.
You replied criticizing his post first. Why don't you do something instead of letting tty's post get to you?
 

Jimdamick

Well-Known Member
Why cannot a cannabis forum Just be that. Don't you have friends or wife in real life and community centers to spark change.

@ttystikk
I'm not coming for you persay...

You wrote an essay..
For what?

What will be will BE.

will you be alive in 2100 No...
2200 No ....
2300 No....

Whatever is going on earth will happen. Just like that in human race will continue when you are dead. This right now is just a spec in time...
Wow, how astute!
Yea, this is a pot site, with many forums. Why don't you go to the LED forum for instance if you find Politics annoying.
Your are not in the right place it seems
 
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