Is transplanting necessary? Is Root Bound over exaggerated??

Underground Scientist

Underground Scientist

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chemphlegm said:
i grow in promix, hand watered, organic ferts. I start in a tiny shot glass with a rooter plug, to a large plastic patio cup, then to a one gallon bag, then to flower in a five gallon bucket.
thats the right way to do it , for me, you dig? it fits with my garden habits, perpetual harvesting, menu selection and maintenance.

for example I could start out in a five pail from seed, but imagine the room and light I'd need to house them....ya dig?
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Breaking this down, some of the transplanting game is about:

Not wasting media if your pheno hunting or culling males.

Not Wasting Real Estate in Veg, especially if you're starting enough to do population reduction for reasons above.

Sometimes you Want to slow growth, so you keep em in Solo cups or 1 gals for longer to slow em down while waiting for room in flower.

Starting in larger pots can lead to more vigorous growth, pretty positive about that...just beware of overwatering

As for the 6" rockwool, that's hydro, and the roots are likely moving beyond the cube and if not...it's hydro, so they can pull nutes more rapidly than soil.
 
chemphlegm

chemphlegm

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Underground Scientist said:
Breaking this down, some of the transplanting game is about:

Not wasting media if your pheno hunting or culling males.

Not Wasting Real Estate in Veg, especially if you're starting enough to do population reduction for reasons above.

Sometimes you Want to slow growth, so you keep em in Solo cups or 1 gals for longer to slow em down while waiting for room in flower.

Starting in larger pots can lead to more vigorous growth, pretty positive about that...just beware of overwatering

As for the 6" rockwool, that's hydro, and the roots are likely moving beyond the cube and if not...it's hydro, so they can pull nutes more rapidly than soil.
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wasting media concerns? like tripping over dollars to pick up nickels
I never want slow growth and when plants are too big in veg I top them.
One gallon bags dont slow growth one bit as long as long as every resource is provided.
starting in large pots can slow growth, transitioning to larger pots leads to vigorous growth

this=grown and flowered in a one gallon grow bag vegged for 50 daysupload_2017-6-14_6-20-10.png
 
coreywebster

coreywebster

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Potting up has been done for almost as long as folk have grown with pots. The point is roots expand to the outer edges of the pot naturally as roots explore to find a way out to expand further. The result is the roots circle the pot. You pot up so that those circled roots further expand to the bigger pot, they then circle again (because they are not in a natural environment). So you have a small circle of roots followed by a larger circle of roots, then you pot up again and the process continues. What you end up with by potting up is a medium which is as full of roots as it can be without wasted space. The older roots which grow in girth are on the inner part.
No root strangling. It also absorbs water from the medium evenly as apposed to a plant straight into a big pot which with a relatively short life span will only fill the outer areas of the medium and be wet longer in the middle.

Obviously this doesn't apply to outdoor plants or trees that are planted in the actual earth. Nor to anything which uses air pruning.
 
Cloud_chaser36

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chemphlegm said:
wasting media concerns? like tripping over dollars to pick up nickels
I never want slow growth and when plants are too big in veg I top them.
One gallon bags dont slow growth one bit as long as long as every resource is provided.
starting in large pots can slow growth, transitioning to larger pots leads to vigorous growth

this=grown and flowered in a one gallon grow bag vegged for 50 daysView attachment 3960685
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whats the tallest youve ever gotten one in a one gallon? Mine usually get to about 18 inches in one gallons before they slow down. I grow bushes though.
 
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BRANDON77

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my seedlings go from 1.5" in seedling trays to 4" grodan blocks in leech trays to save lots of room before they get potted in 5 gallon pots of amended Fox Farms Coco Loco

my clones go from cloner (fully rooted) to 1 gallon pots then to 5 gallon pots
 
visajoe1

visajoe1

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Cloud_chaser36 said:
whats the tallest youve ever gotten one in a one gallon? Mine usually get to about 18 inches in one gallons before they slow down. I grow bushes though.
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were you using trade pots? or actual one gallon pots? trade pots are listed as 1g, but are only .66 gallon volume. doesnt make sense i know. but, im using the trade pots and have some plants 3 feet tall. running in coco, water 2x day
 
Cloud_chaser36

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visajoe1 said:
were you using trade pots? or actual one gallon pots? trade pots are listed as 1g, but are only .66 gallon volume. doesnt make sense i know. but, im using the trade pots and have some plants 3 feet tall. running in coco, water 2x day
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I use nursery squat pots. Tgh
 
420Barista

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Transplanting in hydroponics is unnecessary. in hydro from start to finish you want your plants spaced at the start how they will finish.
if you space them a few inches from another dont expect tall full plants they will be struggling for light and you will have a thick jungle down below.
space them out say a foot or more apart. You may have less plants in a space but they each will grow taller and yield more.

if your growing in pots and feeding hydoponics. then thats a different story start in a small pot and transplant to a larger pot as the plant grows
when you start your flower cycle the plant should be in its final pot it will finish in. after the first 2-3 weeks of stretch in flower thats it for height, now the growth is focused on the bud sites for the remaining weeks.
 
nevergoodenuf

nevergoodenuf

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Cloth pots will eliminate the root spiral and make a better root ball. I have had 5' in 2g and 3g pots producing over 5 ounces a plant. These are all 4'+ and there is 12 plants under 1000 watts of leds (5'x9').
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cannn

cannn

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Ive grown in small pots and what ive noticed is if you're gonna grow in small pots, well tuned nutrients and ph are a lot more important and you will have to water a lot more. Personally rn i like to use four 5-gallon pots under a 400 watt hps. And obviously pot size is going to somewhat limit the plant. Thats why bonsai trees and mother plants are kept in small wide containers. To restrict growth and stunt the overall size
 
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