My First Vert

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I'll edit later and write what each is, for now enjoy the pics!

1. Black dog middle bud
2. Black dog top row of buds, I regret topping them but I do like how the line of buds turned out.
3.black dog bottom bud
4. Black dog top bud
5. Kings kush bottom bud
6. Kings kush top bud (main cola, not topped)
7. Grapefruit krush with some Def showing, I expect due to the air layer?
8. Bottom bud of grapefruit. Closest to the light so more developed than the top.

Can't wait to get a 2nd CMH so I can even out the differences between top and bottom buds. At the moment im moving the one bulb up and down day by day to get even coverage.

My friend came round and had a look and suggested my king kush leaf curling could be due to the bulb being so low down compared to the height of the plant - so the leaves are twisting toward the light.

Anybody else doing verts agree?
 

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Cool work for your first vertical. Everyones set up is different and you'll eventually figure how to get 100% capacity (i.e 4 walls around your light). Next run try a plant on the 4th side and have the trellis or whatever attached to the pot you are using (mobile vertical). Its what i do as i hate seeing wall lol. Good luck.
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Heres an example of what i mean. This is just using stakes and trellis wire. The plants can be manipulated quite a lot (often more than you would expect). Most bushes can be verticalised (lol)without loosing much growth imo.
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I'll take a sideways shot next time i water.
 
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DST said:
Cool work for your first vertical. Everyones set up is different and you'll eventually figure how to get 100% capacity (i.e 4 walls around your light). Next run try a plant on the 4th side and have the trellis or whatever attached to the pot you are using (mobile vertical). Its what i do as i hate seeing wall lol. Good luck.
Peace
DST

Heres an example of what i mean. This is just using stakes and trellis wire. The plants can be manipulated quite a lot (often more than you would expect). Most bushes can be verticalised (lol)without loosing much growth imo.
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I'll take a sideways shot next time i water.
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Hey man thanks for the tip, I was considering running some small autos on the front wall, but maybe I should just trellis that too. Having them be able to move around would be handy!
 
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This is the main cola of the candy kush auto, weighing in at 5 grams but it's not clean trimmed or fully cured yet. Moisture is at around 65-70% in the jar before burping.
I reckon ive got another 10 grams so yeah maybe a half oz plant. Smallest ive ever grown. If you were here earlier you'll know I accidently stunted it not realising it was an auto. Still a good result. Some nice smoke to last me until the big harvest next month. Thank god.

My crohns has been awful lately! Back on the docs meds :(
 
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My crohns has been awful lately! Back on the docs meds :(
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I was making oil for my son's mother and she was doing so well but her Dr. put her on steroids and she quit taking the oil, saying that the roids have stopped her pain.
I and my wellness guru have both told her the dangers of anabolic steroids. I was on them for 14 months in 94 and they about killed me coming off of them. I gained 90 while taking them and that took me over two yrs to get rid of that weight.
So we are working to get her back on the oils.

GR
 
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gr865 said:
I was making oil for my son's mother and she was doing so well but her Dr. put her on steroids and she quit taking the oil, saying that the roids have stopped her pain.
I and my wellness guru have both told her the dangers of anabolic steroids. I was on them for 14 months in 94 and they about killed me coming off of them. I gained 90 while taking them and that took me over two yrs to get rid of that weight.
So we are working to get her back on the oils.

GR
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I would be surprised if they're anabolic steroids, I have been on corticosteroids prednisolone, there's also prednisone. Very similar albeit that they actually reduce your muscle mass, I had none anyway being bed bound for 6 months, Nil by mouth for 3 months, went down to 9-10 stone from my "very" healtby 16-17 stone. Im now up to 22 stone and trying to get it back down now.

They sent my mind loopy, ive not been the same since. Quick to anger and plenty of anxiety and depression to boot.

Took me 9 months just to taper off them! Not to mention the year to come off 30/500 cocodomols.

Steroids are just a mask really, they don't cure the underlying problems and they should only be used if nothing else is working - a last resort.

I currently have bimonthly infliximab infusions with azathioprine and allopurinol along with folic acid supplements.

Damn drugs give me headaches and stomach aches. A funny side effect for a drug to help stomach problems..

I can't complain though, I had the best doctor in the country which I paid for privately as the NHS in this area have no clue what to do. I damn near died thanks to them!

I hope your relative feels better soon, edibles really do help my symptoms the best. I like to make coconut oil with soy lecithin. I use mainly thc as that helps with pain and inflammation but im wondering whether I need higher amounts of CBD.
 
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Yes JD I was on prednisone, bad shit.
I have just started an oil program for the arthritis in my back.
 
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I'd recommend using oil from the full plant. I think theres a lot in the plant we don't know about and the effects things like terpenes etc have. Also from my experience from people i know using cbd oil and normal oil. Maybe it was the quality of cbd oil....who knows. All i know is normal oil seems to work for a lot of ailments.
 
gr865

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JDMase said:
Do you use cbd or thc for that? Or a mixture. Ive heard that the more different ones the better!
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DST said:
I'd recommend using oil from the full plant. I think theres a lot in the plant we don't know about and the effects things like terpenes etc have. Also from my experience from people i know using cbd oil and normal oil. Maybe it was the quality of cbd oil....who knows. All i know is normal oil seems to work for a lot of ailments.
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Yes JD and DST, I use full plant but I also make a batch with pure buds, no leaf or shake. I normally will mix the two of those together but keep a few grams of the pure bud oil.

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My air layer worked.

This is tangie. The cube had dried out so I just gave it a quick spray and was like damn I need to take a pic for the grow journal. I haven't checked the grapefruit one which is in flower but I will do at lights on.

So notes for the future - nitrogen def on the whole plant and what looks to be mag def on the leaves above the air layer. I guess a foliar could help with that?

Some of those issues may be due to cramped space now they've vegged far bigger than the 60x60 cm tent they are in.

Only the one long root shooting out so im unsure whether to cut it yet or get more established, but I think when I do chop it I'll go straight into a 3" Rockwool cube. Maybe 100ppm of nutes?

What do you guys think?
 
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JDMase said:
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My air layer worked.

This is tangie. The cube had dried out so I just gave it a quick spray and was like damn I need to take a pic for the grow journal. I haven't checked the grapefruit one which is in flower but I will do at lights on.

So notes for the future - nitrogen def on the whole plant and what looks to be mag def on the leaves above the air layer. I guess a foliar could help with that?

Some of those issues may be due to cramped space now they've vegged far bigger than the 60x60 cm tent they are in.

Only the one long root shooting out so im unsure whether to cut it yet or get more established, but I think when I do chop it I'll go straight into a 3" Rockwool cube. Maybe 100ppm of nutes?

What do you guys think?
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All those white nubs are rooting sites getting started. Put it in soil and she should take off. Keep her in humid conditions for a few days so it doesn't dry out.
 
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ttystikk said:
All those white nubs are rooting sites getting started. Put it in soil and she should take off. Keep her in humid conditions for a few days so it doesn't dry out.
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Ive not got any soil here tty I only have rockwool croutons or cubes. Should I get soil?
 
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RO water with a feed of half dose AN products and full dose of hydroguard. 600ish ppm nutes.

I just measured CMH bulb distance from plants, around 11-13 inches. Doesn't my distance need to be more like 18? I thought I'd be fine but maybe this is the cause of some of my issues?
 
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JD,
The lights here were around 10" from the plants and I had a few branches grow into the lamps. Today I removed them all did some work on them and when they went back into the tent i back them up to around 15". Don't back them off so far you start losing any benefits of the light.

GR
 
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gr865 said:
JD,
The lights here were around 10" from the plants and I had a few branches grow into the lamps. Today I removed them all did some work on them and when they went back into the tent i back them up to around 15". Don't back them off so far you start losing any benefits of the light.

GR
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Ive had some light burn, im not sure if that's from me moving the lamp to water the back wall, I'll leave it be for now, got some good bud development happening on the black dog now. Kings Kush is lagging still due to issues.
 
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As with candy, the black dog is nearing finish but is lacking density and bud size. Especially from what im used to from 600w HPS. Am I doing something wrong?
It's not really taking up much water lately, it has been hot here, as high as 33c.humidity 50% roughly too.. Is this a factor?

What can I do?
 
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