New Beginnings for Massachussetts and I

JustCallmeMom

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EXPERIMENT RESULTS: So a few weeks ago I got some very sick looking plants from my brother, he thought I could use the pots and cages for my grow. I decided to keep the tomato plants and see what I could do with them. I added a teaspoon of DynaGro Bloom to them in a gallon of water and watered them 2x. (I didnt want to use my FOX FARMS BLOOM as that is for my cannabis.) HOLY WOW!!! Look at the before and after pictures in just a week. I might be switching from fox farms to dyna gro!!
 

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Axle4worc

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Here are some Progressive pictures on my mainlining project. Removed 5/6 of the foliage in the last 48 hours and they are still loving life. Still 2 more toppings at least. The tomato cage ring makes tie downs a breeze and secure at any height.

Here are some more pictures of my mainlining/manifolding cookies project. At least one more topping to go.

One pic of my flower tent 2 weeks
into flower. Never thought I would almost fill a 5x5 with 480w and 3 plants. Broke one cola trying to move it in the net. Going to have to put a second net to hold them up. Lights now at maximum height. May have to remove the ratchets to get the lights a couple more inches up.
 

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JustCallmeMom

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Here is my schedule now that I have decided to keep both tents, have 3 lights, and 2 exhaust fans with scrubbers. what are your thoughts?

(3) Mature plants in big girls tent approx 30 days from harvest. (Big girls tent = 2 300w LED's, large oscillating fan & 6" exhaust fan/carbon filter.)

Day 0-7(seed)– plant (3) seeds in 3g pots with FFOF soil, Mykos Mycorrhizal & Ph adjusted water, place in nursery tent. (Nursery tent = 100w LED, 2 clip fans & 4" exhaust fan/carbon filter.)
Day 8-14(seedling)– Ph adjusted water
Day 15-21(start of vegetative)– Ph adjusted water
Day 22-28(vegetative)–1/2 veg nutes

Remove (3) mature plants from big girls tent. Take seedlings out of nursery tent and put in the big girls tent. cut down mature plants and hang in empty dark nursery tent with fans on to dry.

Day 29-35(pre-flower)– 1/4 veg nutes & 1/4 bloom nutes

Remove hanging dried plants from nursery tent. Trim and jar buds to start cure.

Day 36-42(first flowers)– 1/4 veg nutes & 1/4 bloom nutes
Day 43-49(flowering)– 1/2 bloom nutes & 1 Tbs molasses & 1/2oz seaweed

Start (3) new seeds in nursery tent.

Day 50-56(flowering)– 1/2 bloom nutes & 1Tbs molasses & 3/4oz seaweed
Day 57-63(flowering)– 1/2 bloom nutes & 2Tbs molasses & 1oz seaweed
Day 64-70(flowering)– 1/2 bloom nutes & 2Tbs molasses & 1oz seaweed
Day 71-77(flowering)– Ph adjusted water till harvest

Remove (3) mature plants from big girls tent. Take seedlings out of nursery tent and put in the big girls tent. cut down mature plants and hang in empty dark nursery tent with fans on to dry.

Just keep repeating this process.
 
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greg nr

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Here is my schedule now that I have decided to keep both tents, have 3 lights, and 2 exhaust fans with scrubbers. what are your thoughts?

(3) Mature plants in big girls tent approx 30 days from harvest. (Big girls tent = 2 300w LED's, large oscillating fan & 6" exhaust fan/carbon filter.)

Day 0-7(seed)– plant (3) seeds in 3g pots with FFOF soil, Mykos Mycorrhizal & Ph adjusted water, place in nursery tent. (Nursery tent = 100w LED, 2 clip fans & 4" exhaust fan/carbon filter.)
Day 8-14(seedling)– Ph adjusted water
Day 15-21(start of vegetative)– Ph adjusted water
Day 22-28(vegetative)–1/2 veg nutes

Remove (3) mature plants from big girls tent. Take seedlings out of nursery tent and put in the big girls tent. cut down mature plants and hang in empty dark nursery tent with fans on to dry.

Day 29-35(pre-flower)– 1/4 veg nutes & 1/4 bloom nutes

Remove hanging dried plants from nursery tent. Trim and jar buds to start cure.

Day 36-42(first flowers)– 1/4 veg nutes & 1/4 bloom nutes
Day 43-49(flowering)– 1/2 bloom nutes & 1 Tbs molasses & 1/2oz seaweed

Start (3) new seeds in nursery tent.

Day 50-56(flowering)– 1/2 bloom nutes & 1Tbs molasses & 3/4oz seaweed
Day 57-63(flowering)– 1/2 bloom nutes & 2Tbs molasses & 1oz seaweed
Day 64-70(flowering)– 1/2 bloom nutes & 2Tbs molasses & 1oz seaweed
Day 71-77(flowering)– Ph adjusted water till harvest

Remove (3) mature plants from big girls tent. Take seedlings out of nursery tent and put in the big girls tent. cut down mature plants and hang in empty dark nursery tent with fans on to dry.

Just keep repeating this process.
I know they are autos and you shouldn't repot them, but I just don't like putting seeds into full strength soil. What I would probably do is fill a solo cup with just potting mix (not soil - use a soil-less mix like jiffy) and mold it into a plug, then put that plug into the middle of your ffof in the big pot. That way, the seedlings will have a nice comfy mix to set up in. Once the roots reach the ffof, the plant should be big enough to handle it. Kind of a pot within a pot but no container separating them.

Nutes I typically do by ppm and week. So I can't help with amounts.
 

Axle4worc

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I know they are autos and you shouldn't repot them, but I just don't like putting seeds into full strength soil. What I would probably do is fill a solo cup with just potting mix (not soil - use a soil-less mix like jiffy) and mold it into a plug, then put that plug into the middle of your ffof in the big pot. That way, the seedlings will have a nice comfy mix to set up in. Once the roots reach the ffof, the plant should be big enough to handle it. Kind of a pot within a pot but no container separating them.

Nutes I typically do by ppm and week. So I can't help with amounts.
When I do my Autos in soil, I do this as well. Take a 5-gallon pot fill it with hot soil (ffof, roots organic). In the center I put a solo cup with the bottom cut out. Fill the Solo Cup up with Light Warrior. Then lift out the Solo Cup and the center is all Light Warrior. I have never repotted a plant I planned to keep.
 

greg nr

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I may have finally lifted the curse of the clones. I've tried everything to get clones to root. I've tried root riot cubes, peat plugs, potting mix, humidity domes, clonex, great white - followed well known growtubers step by step. Everything. Still, I only manage to get 1 in 5 to make it to health.

So out of desperation I got an oxy cloner. Looks like I will be 6/6 on my first run. 8 days in, roots are beginning to burst. Or maybe they are just rotting in place with all kinds of stubble. Another few days should tell the tale...

Oh, and I get to take a drug test tomorrow. woo-hoo Guess I won't visit the garden before I go. . ;)
 

Bountykiller420

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EXPERIMENT RESULTS: So a few weeks ago I got some very sick looking plants from my brother, he thought I could use the pots and cages for my grow. I decided to keep the tomato plants and see what I could do with them. I added a teaspoon of DynaGro Bloom to them in a gallon of water and watered them 2x. (I didnt want to use my FOX FARMS BLOOM as that is for my cannabis.) HOLY WOW!!! Look at the before and after pictures in just a week. I might be switching from fox farms to dyna gro!!
I use dyna gro, its been great so far, bigass nugs, plants did well with the nutes, been using the whole line from KLN to foliage pro to protekt, can get free samples of everything if you call them ( free samples will last a whole grow), grab some samples and ty it out!
 

Axle4worc

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Still, I only manage to get 1 in 5 to make it to health.
This is my first time trying to clone. I don't know when to throw them away. It has been over 3 weeks and they just sit there.

I did most of it ghetto. One lost all green and I tossed it. I used clonex and root riot plugs, a humidity dome made out of a gal zip lock and a piece of a tomato cage. When I saw some roots in a couple, I put them into Solo cups with Coco. Have been giving them light nutes. 2 have a couple roots out the bottom of the cup yet they don't grow much. Maybe I should up the nutes or repot them into some hot soil.

Cookies mainline project update. 5 1/2 weeks from sprouts to final top. Left some extra fan leaves on the 2 smaller plants to see if they can catch up. Hasn't been working yet.
 

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JustCallmeMom

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I know they are autos and you shouldn't repot them, but I just don't like putting seeds into full strength soil. What I would probably do is fill a solo cup with just potting mix (not soil - use a soil-less mix like jiffy) and mold it into a plug, then put that plug into the middle of your ffof in the big pot. That way, the seedlings will have a nice comfy mix to set up in. Once the roots reach the ffof, the plant should be big enough to handle it. Kind of a pot within a pot but no container separating them.

Nutes I typically do by ppm and week. So I can't help with amounts.

Yes, a lot of folks have said ffof can be rather hot for seeds and babies. I was going to put a little light warrior or happy frog in the middle of the pot ( about a solo cup size amount) for the babies to start out in. I dont want to transplant, more ways for mommy to mess up! LOL

Although, the 3 I have going now were planted straight into FFOF and I see no issues. knock on wood.
 

JustCallmeMom

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This is my first time trying to clone. I don't know when to throw them away. It has been over 3 weeks and they just sit there.

I did most of it ghetto. One lost all green and I tossed it. I used clonex and root riot plugs, a humidity dome made out of a gal zip lock and a piece of a tomato cage. When I saw some roots in a couple, I put them into Solo cups with Coco. Have been giving them light nutes. 2 have a couple roots out the bottom of the cup yet they don't grow much. Maybe I should up the nutes or repot them into some hot soil.

Cookies mainline project update. 5 1/2 weeks from sprouts to final top. Left some extra fan leaves on the 2 smaller plants to see if they can catch up. Hasn't been working yet.
sorry hon, I am "clone clueless". for now!
 

JustCallmeMom

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So...I got a HUMONGOUS back breaking package last night from the not so happy UPS man. I set up a new 6"x20" carbon filter and 6" fan in my new big girls tent last night by myself.
(I kept the 4"x12" fan and filter in my old tent and have decided to use it as the nursery/veg tent...easier that way. I can still stealth both, they look fine in the apartment.)
HOLY GODZILLA these things were HUGE!!!!!! They looked like something from NASA.
:shock:
HINT: always, always remove ladies from tent when you mess around inside it
 
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WeedFreak78

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I know they are autos and you shouldn't repot them, but I just don't like putting seeds into full strength soil. What I would probably do is fill a solo cup with just potting mix (not soil - use a soil-less mix like jiffy) and mold it into a plug, then put that plug into the middle of your ffof in the big pot. That way, the seedlings will have a nice comfy mix to set up in. Once the roots reach the ffof, the plant should be big enough to handle it. Kind of a pot within a pot but no container separating them.

Nutes I typically do by ppm and week. So I can't help with amounts.
When I do my Autos in soil, I do this as well. Take a 5-gallon pot fill it with hot soil (ffof, roots organic). In the center I put a solo cup with the bottom cut out. Fill the Solo Cup up with Light Warrior. Then lift out the Solo Cup and the center is all Light Warrior. I have never repotted a plant I planned to keep.
I usually plant all my autos right into whatever mix I'm growing in, lately 50/50 ocean forest/happy frog. I usually water to runoff before planting to moisturize the soil. I just try to pour in the same spot in the middle, a little at a time, to leech as much nutes as possible from the area before planting. The only time I had issues was planting directly into a "super soil" mix i put together a few years ago, but it was HOT, my bigger veg plants even stalled. I figure if its not strong enough to make it, I don't want it.
 

WeedFreak78

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This is my first time trying to clone. I don't know when to throw them away. It has been over 3 weeks and they just sit there.

I did most of it ghetto. One lost all green and I tossed it. I used clonex and root riot plugs, a humidity dome made out of a gal zip lock and a piece of a tomato cage. When I saw some roots in a couple, I put them into Solo cups with Coco. Have been giving them light nutes. 2 have a couple roots out the bottom of the cup yet they don't grow much. Maybe I should up the nutes or repot them into some hot soil.

Cookies mainline project update. 5 1/2 weeks from sprouts to final top. Left some extra fan leaves on the 2 smaller plants to see if they can catch up. Hasn't been working yet.
The 3 in the first pic look ok. The 3 solo cups In the second don't, I'd toss the 2 smaller ones. The one in the baggie looks alright, if it's not that old I'd cut that stem in half and stick it back in. They all look like they were cut way to long. The lowest leaves should only be about an inch above the medium. They also look over watered. Do you allow the soil to completely dry out between waterings?

This is a good video about how to cut clones as well as gets into the science behind cloning a little.

 

Axle4worc

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The 3 in the first pic look ok. The 3 solo cups In the second don't, I'd toss the 2 smaller ones. The one in the baggie looks alright, if it's not that old I'd cut that stem in half and stick it back in. They all look like they were cut way to long. The lowest leaves should only be about an inch above the medium. They also look over watered. Do you allow the soil to completely dry out between waterings
I only want 3 to give to one of my wife's friends. I will dissect the worst 3 to see if any Roots grew. The one in the baggie is like 10 days old. I still haven't seen any roots coming out. I understood that you didn't want Coco to completely dry out so they may be a bit overwatered. I've been watering them like every 3 days since I replanted them about a week ago.
 

WeedFreak78

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I only want 3 to give to one of my wife's friends. I will dissect the worst 3 to see if any Roots grew. The one in the baggie is like 10 days old. I still haven't seen any roots coming out. I understood that you didn't want Coco to completely dry out so they may be a bit overwatered. I've been watering them like every 3 days since I replanted them about a week ago.
I've never dealt with coco. I'd assume you still want some degree of wet/dry cycling to promote root growth but IDK what's acceptable.
 

Creature1969

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I've never dealt with coco. I'd assume you still want some degree of wet/dry cycling to promote root growth but IDK what's acceptable.
Wet/dry cycles like soil results in soil growth rate. Watered daily like hydro nets closer to hydro growth rate. Add supplemental air and things literally explode. :bigjoint:

Edit to add: Speaking of which. I chopped the top 75% off one of the auto amnesia's today. Wet weight is 980 grams. That should be over 8zips each. :o Craziness. Coco hempy's w/air and autocobs ftw. I have to get more of these seeds.
 
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