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GroErr

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True, it's more of a tool to say this light performs well with the plants at this level, and you can check your coverage and intensity fade. There's bound to be a porportional relationship between lux and PAR. I know I can't directly compare MH to this, but you gotta start with an educated guess, then the plants will tell ya the rest. :bigjoint:
Yeah it's just not something I've spent any time looking into, for light I go by bright-brighter-f'n bright eye meter ;) I couldn't believe how f'n bright that LEC was when I fired it up, kind of knocked me back a bit once it warmed up :shock:
 

Underground Scientist

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It is all about wavelength.

Lux, foot candles, lumens all measure light we see. Plants don't use that spectrum much, they are more interested in the wavelengths higher and lower on the electromagnetic spectrum.
Just an FYI:

PPFD to lux is 82 for HPS

The full conversion chart is:

HPS 82
DEHPS 77
Flouro 74
Sun 54
CMH 4200k 65
CMH 3100k 59

100 Umol is 8200 HPS lux, 7700 DEHPS lux, 7400 Flouro lux, etc.

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Evil-Mobo

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Yeah I've already measured and they'd fit right into the existing gaps. The larger "450w" panels have 3x sections, the smaller "300w" panels have 2x sections and the QB boards would fit in there nicely. I would replace the 4 year old Chinese no-name drivers but drivers are cheap anyhow. Disconnect the fans, not needed Imo with the QB's. Would be a relatively cheap overhaul and the existing sink would be more than enough to handle them. First I'm going to see if I can find someone to do it though, time is not something I have, but I'm willing to pay for it ;)
I would gladly do it for you but shipping across borders and taxes would not make it worth it
 

GroErr

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If you get all the parts together bud
I could throw it together for ya.
Pick it up on a trip home then drop em off next trip up.
Hey yeah that would be great :) Will PM when I get some parts together for it, no panic right now but would like to try those QB's in the flower room. Haven't checked availability recently for those boards.
 

GroErr

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Meant to post this earlier, took it on my way home tonight. We've had a ton of rain but last night up this way was insane, like 3-4" overnight. There's a couple of local rivers and creeks that overflowed into some low lying areas, crazy looking, tons of back roads washed out and closed off. This is not a lake, this is a farm a couple of miles south of me. It's normally a potato farm, poor bastards just lost it all, no recovering that crop :(

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ttystikk

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Meant to post this earlier, took it on my way home tonight. We've had a ton of rain but last night up this way was insane, like 3-4" overnight. There's a couple of local rivers and creeks that overflowed into some low lying areas, crazy looking, tons of back roads washed out and closed off. This is not a lake, this is a farm a couple of miles south of me. It's normally a potato farm, poor bastards just lost it all, no recovering that crop :(

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Wow, that's a lot of water.
 

GroErr

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How are electricity costs in Canada?
Varies by province but probably averages in the $0.15/kw hour all in, the delivery and other bullshit charges driving it up, my base rate off hours is around $0.085 but ends up around $0.12 I think by the time they add all the charges. I flower during the cheap rates 7:00 pm to 7:00 am, they go up to double that mid-day at peak, base is around $0.15++. We had a recent drop with some bullshit plan to defer some infrastructure costs, our kids will pay for it later. I can't complain too much using LED's typically running about 1000-1200w total veg + flower depending what I have going, bill lately dropped to about $200/month including running my house, had hit as high as $300 last year.
 

GroErr

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Sorry to hear that....we were dumped on pretty hard this last year too.

(we lost the Tunnel Tree Dang!)
I remember reading about that, sucks :( Funny thing is the worst of it hit mainly an area with farms, from about 2 miles south to 10 miles south. When I left today I noticed it had rained but nothing major until I got out of town and saw that shit :(
 

Underground Scientist

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Varies by province but probably averages in the $0.15/kw hour all in, the delivery and other bullshit charges driving it up, my base rate off hours is around $0.085 but ends up around $0.12 I think by the time they add all the charges. I flower during the cheap rates 7:00 pm to 7:00 am, they go up to double that mid-day at peak, base is around $0.15++. We had a recent drop with some bullshit plan to defer some infrastructure costs, our kids will pay for it later. I can't complain too much using LED's typically running about 1000-1200w total veg + flower depending what I have going, bill lately dropped to about $200/month including running my house, had hit as high as $300 last year.
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Pig4buzz

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Varies by province but probably averages in the $0.15/kw hour all in, the delivery and other bullshit charges driving it up, my base rate off hours is around $0.085 but ends up around $0.12 I think by the time they add all the charges. I flower during the cheap rates 7:00 pm to 7:00 am, they go up to double that mid-day at peak, base is around $0.15++. We had a recent drop with some bullshit plan to defer some infrastructure costs, our kids will pay for it later. I can't complain too much using LED's typically running about 1000-1200w total veg + flower depending what I have going, bill lately dropped to about $200/month including running my house, had hit as high as $300 last year.

Damn my elec is very seldom under 200$ up to 400$ Hope this new light drops her down. About 50-60$ in bs though only about 600wts
 
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