bernie and jane are lawyering up!

Fogdog

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ttystikk said:
Back to original thread topic for a moment;

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/06/youll-never-believe-this-but-republicans-are-start.html

@UncleBuck it seems you're susceptible to getting sucked into the right wing wind machine, as well.

If you're going to go on a witch hunt, bring a broom.
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"witch hunt"? Really? You quote the godfather of all news that is fake?

I'm not in any way supportive of protecting people who corruptly take advantage of their political position. If Hillary had been convicted of any of the multiple charges the radical right tried to pin on her, then I'd be glad to say lock her up. Anybody can be charged if there is enough evidence to justify a charge. That doesn't mean they are guilty and it doesn't mean the charges were brought by a fair system. After that, the news takes over and for some people, being charged is the same as being guilty. Unless, that is, they have a bias for the person charged. I've been hearing over and over about "corrupt Democrats" and "Corrupt Hillary" without ever seeing a valid legal decision saying so. Yet bernouts think Saint Bernard is pure, untainted and should never be affected by dirty politics where charges can be leveled and reputations tarnished without there ever being a corrupt act.

Now it's time for Bernie and his wife to spend some time in the right wing wringer. It's the right wing and their propaganda machine that's the problem here. I'd prefer if Democrats could hold their tongues until a real verdict is available but I also see some justifiable payback here for the obnoxious baying of bernouts who continue to make false accusations about Democrats.
 
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NaturalFarmer

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https://sandersguideblog.wordpress.com/2016/03/07/sanders-finances-bring-a-shovel/

The real story is how she was able to turn 30+ acres of public lands which were beyond Prime real estate (College and Orphanage) into private land for developers. This is certainly not a NON STORY


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  • Jane Sanders as President of Burlington College
  • Before Burlington College, Jane was Provost of Goddard College, like Burlington, a small college. “It was very difficult to make that choice,” said Sanders, a Goddard alumna who has chaired the college’s board of trustees for three years. “But Goddard is at a crossroads now, and they have asked me to change my role and facilitate that journey.” She took over at a time of upheaval. “I’m here on campus, but I feel like I’m walking on the corpses of those that have been fired.” KATHARINE KAVANAGH, Goddard student
  • In 2008, a few years before the land purchase scandal, Jane was known for getting rid of dissenters, another trait she shares with Bernie, profiled in Bernie Sanders’ Dissonance and Dissidents
  • Burlington College Students Press for Changes After Prof’s Dismissal
  • “Over the past four years, there have been more than two dozen faculty and staff who have left [Burlington College],” said SGA President Joshua Lambert in an interview last week. “A lot of those, we’re concerned, have to do with the administrative practices of Jane Sanders and her administration.”
  • In September, representatives of the Student Government Association (SGA) began meeting with students, faculty and staff about what they described as a “toxic and disruptive environment” on campus, which they blame on Burlington College President Jane O’Meara Sanders.
  • Seventy-four of the college’s 170 students and 11 faculty and staff signed a petition calling for the emergency meeting and expressing the view that there’s a “crisis in leadership” at the school.
  • “Over the past four years, there have been more than two dozen faculty and staff who have left [Burlington College],” said SGA President Joshua Lambert in an interview last week. “A lot of those, we’re concerned, have to do with the administrative practices of Jane Sanders and her administration.”
  • In August, the American Association of University Professors (AAUP) expressed concerns about Burlington College’s lack of a formal grievance policy for faculty. In a letter to Sanders, Robert Kreiser, senior program officer in AAUP’s department of academic freedom, tenure and governance, called the omission “quite unusual” for an American college or university.”
  • Buying the Diocese
  • The trouble began when the Catholic Diocese, beset by priest sex-abuse lawsuits put the diocese and its’ 74 acres of land up for sale. Jane Sanders imagined a grand plan along the lines of if-you-build-it-they-will-come and decided the college would buy it and then somehow double its student enrollment for the first time in the college’s history to support it. Along with the $10 million price-tag, it would need work to make it suitable for school use.
  • “Burlington College took on $10 million of debt to pay for the new campus. The institution owes $6.5 million in tax-free bonds issued by the Vermont Educational and Health Buildings Finance Agency and purchased by People’s United Bank. (Jane Sanders has an IRA/Cash Annuity with People’s United Bank) The diocese also loaned the college roughly $3.5 million. And the college received a $500,000 loan from Tony Pomerleau, a local philanthropist and real estate magnate who’s an old friend of Bernie Sanders, The Burlington Free Press reported.”
  • “This was money for basic work on the diocese building to allow the college to move in and begin using it. Pomerleau said last week that he made the loan in support of both the college and its then-president, Jane Sanders, who orchestrated the purchase.
  • “It wouldn’t have happened without Jane,” Pomerleau said. “In my mind, she did a tremendous job.”
  • Pomerleau is also an old friend of Sanders’ husband. He supported Bernie Sanders after he was elected mayor of Burlington. When Bernie Sanders won election, Pomerleau recalled proudly, “I was the first one to congratulate him.”
  • As for his loan, the college has not repaid it. “Maybe some interest,” Pomerleau said. The due date for payment in full has been pushed forward a year, to Dec. 31.”
  • When the college soon defaulted on payments, questions, allegations and financial reviews started flying. It turned out that Jane had swapped a future bequeathal to the college for an actual donation in an unethical, but not illegal some say (in Vermont) accounting practice to deceive creditors during the purchase. Combined with sudden financial problems and the defaults, Jane was asked to resign. She negotiated a very nice settlement, that would pay her for three years as if she were still there, covered by a “sabbatical” agreement. There’s some irony to be found in getting forced out of your job over a Catholic Diocese and using a form of the Greek word sabatikos for Sabbath to get your golden parachute payments. Things turned out well for Jane. Most of the rubber-stamp board was afraid to speak on the record , although a few quietly disapproved off the record, the college finally giving halfhearted support for the disgraced president for obvious reasons; the privately negotiated deal was secret, political survival and a hopeful attempt to support what remained of the college’s reputation. In time, the college tax files would reveal the agreement:
  • “THE FORMER PRESIDENT, JANE SANDERS, RESIGNED FROM THE COLLEGE AND A TRANSITION AGREEMENT WAS ENTERED INTO ON SEPTEMBER 26, 2011 FOR ONE (1) YEAR. THE PRESIDENT WILL BE PAID FOR THE YEAR, OVER THE FOLLOWING TWO (2) YEARS (THROUGH OCTOBER, 2013), AT AN ANNUAL RATE OF $149,380 INCLUDING ALL CUSTOMARY BENEFITS IN ADDITION, THE FORMER PRESIDENT WILL RECEIVE ADDITIONAL PAYMENTS INTO HER RETIREMENT PLANS TOTALING $21,415 AND A DEFERRED BONUS OF $15,000 AND A LUMP SUM FINAL PAYMENT OF $15,000. THE BALANCE OUTSTANDING AS OF JUNE 30, 2012 ON CONTRACT TOTALED $123,427. THE TOTAL SEVERANCE PAYMENT TO BE RECEIVED FROM OCTOBER 2011 THROUGH OCTOBER 2013 IS $200,795.”
 
Fogdog

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NaturalFarmer said:
http://static.lakana.com/nxsglobal/mychamplainvalley/document_dev/2016/01/12/LTR to USATTY and FDIC IG re Apparent Fraud Sen Sanders Wife 01102016_6360746_ver1.0.pdf
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So, how about that lawsuit (lawsuits) suing Trump for accepting money from foreign powers, which at the very least makes him in violation of the constitution and subject to removal from office?

You seem pretty blithe about billions in corrupt gains by Trump. Yet can't seem to wait for an investigation to finish before accusing Bernie of something that hasn't even been proven yet.
 
NaturalFarmer

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The Left is fucking ridiculous. I said nothing about Trump, fuck why not blame Bush!
Bernie is a fraud as is the left.

Squirrel!!!----I mean Trump.
 
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ttystikk

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Indeed, compared to Trump's doings, this is very small potatoes and while it doesn't seem to meet the highest of ethical standards, there's no evidence of laws being broken.

The same cannot be said for Trump's dealings.
 
NaturalFarmer

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Give it a couple weeks and his donors may come looking for their two dollars back.

  • The Sanders true net worth is far higher than reported, some have calculated as being well over $1.5 million.
  • Other than joint real estate, almost all of the Sanders’ assets are in Jane’s name.
  • Jane Sanders and daughter Carina Driscoll were paid to do campaign work for Bernie.
  • CREW lodged an ethics violation against Bernie Sanders for a book royalties deal between Bernie and Friends of Bernie Sanders PAC.
  • Jane Sanders was architect of unethical accounting practices used in a college land deal while President of Burlington College. Like Jonathan Leopold, on paper, she shifted funds from one account to another to deceive creditors.
  • Jonathan Leopold and Bernie Sanders designed a new accounting procedure at city hall that contributed to the Burlington Telecom scandal.
  • A Sanders daughter and son of Jonathan Leopold benefited from funds secured through Burlington College while Leopold was on the board and Jane Sanders was President.
  • Jane Sanders extensive stock portfolio is not ‘socially responsible’.
  • Son Dave Driscoll is Global Director of Team at Burton Snowboards, Burlington , Vermont. Burton got the ‘Made In America’ uniforms contract for the 2014 U.S. Snowboarding team at the Olympics in Solchi, Russia. The design came from Burlington but no part of the uniforms were made in America.
 
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UncleBuck

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NaturalFarmer said:
The Left is fucking ridiculous. I said nothing about Trump, fuck why not blame Bush!
Bernie is a fraud as is the left.

Squirrel!!!----I mean Trump.
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how bad are you gonna cry when mueller announces charges against trump's entire senior staff, all of his kids except tiffany and barron, and recommends impeachment for obstruction, witness tampering, money laundering,espionage, and collusion?
 
SouthCross

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Bank Fraud....

All that money and they still try and cheat. I wonder if she'll see a single hour in jail? Probably not. Too rich to jail.
 
UncleBuck

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SouthCross said:
Bank Fraud....

All that money and they still try and cheat. I wonder if she'll see a single hour in jail? Probably not. Too rich to jail.
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so it sounds like you've already presumed guilt based on an investigation and them lawyering up.

what are your thoughts on the entire trump administration being under investigation and lawyering up?

LOL
 
NaturalFarmer

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UncleBuck said:
how bad are you gonna cry when mueller announces charges against trump's entire senior staff, all of his kids except tiffany and barron, and recommends impeachment for obstruction, witness tampering, money laundering,espionage, and collusion?
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Sooo bad!
 
UncleBuck

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SouthCross said:
My thoughts is you need to turn the TV off and stop believing everything CNN instructs you to think.
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i don't watch CNN and you didn't answer the question, you two-faced rat pussy.

so it sounds like you've already presumed guilt based on an investigation and them lawyering up.

what are your thoughts on the entire trump administration being under investigation and lawyering up?
 
SouthCross

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UncleBuck said:
i don't watch CNN and you didn't answer the question, you two-faced rat pussy.

so it sounds like you've already presumed guilt based on an investigation and them lawyering up.

what are your thoughts on the entire trump administration being under investigation and lawyering up?
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Honestly. It brings me a subtle joy knowing it's driving you mad.
 
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