The Truth About Flushing

[CannaBruh]

So is the plain water is a bad idea to flush with? I'm just now learning I've been reading up and asking people there opinions on the whole flushing process and there is mixed responses what is your process to flush now with that said my plant is not a genetics plant just a bag seed that came out pretty good but any ideas will be appreciated

My recommendation is for you to do simple experiments and find out what you like. They are all valid methods for growing plants, but people tend to find preferences from practice.

Are here we are:

10/6/14 is one plant 12/29/14 is post flush results. 1/30/15 is pre flush and 2/16/15 is post flush on second plant bud tissue samples.
https://manicbotanix.com/hydroponic-nutrient-science/

I'm not sure why you quoted me or what this spreadsheet is?

My quote is directly related to a study that another user posted relating to various levels of N and the relationship of observed whole plant THC content. Sorry I don't mean to dismiss your data but it doesn't relate to my quote.

 

[CannaBruh]

How do u know what they need? I guess that's just something u learn over time....I'm trying to keep her green at 6:00 pm central time I'll take pics so u can c better idea on what's wrong with her

When they're done, they won't "need" much. This is learned over time through practice.

Think about a banana how a banana ripens and how you can learn how that banana will taste just by visual observation.

 

[whitebb2727]

They just came out with Dyna Flush.

Of course the president already admitted we don't need the bloom bottle so.....

I never needed a flush with the dynagro foliage pro.

Just feed right and a flush is not needed.

 

[Tx-Peanutt]

How about fox farms??? Do they need a flush

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

How about fox farms??? Do they need a flush

@whitebb2727 said right above your post. "Just feed right and a flush is not needed. "

That is and always was the only answer to this.

Flushing came about in my opinion from the old growers using tomato feed and such with high nitrogen and high phosphorous and their only hope to not have the plants take too much was to switch to water only for weeks.

There was plenty of nutes left in their potting mix.

Then when specialized hobby gardening products came out. They catered to the demand of the people who always did it that way.

Extra bottles sold by popular demand.

If you have not heard this interview you should.

It is the president of Dyna Grow explaining what our plants actually need and why he produced the bloom bottle.

I have not used any pk type Bloom products for a couple of years now except for a test or two.

 

[Tx-Peanutt]

@whitebb2727 said right above your post. "Just feed right and a flush is not needed. "

That is and always was the only answer to this.

Flushing came about in my opinion from the old growers using tomato feed and such with high nitrogen and high phosphorous and their only hope to not have the plants take too much was to switch to water only for weeks.

There was plenty of nutes left in their potting mix.

Then when specialized hobby gardening products came out. They catered to the demand of the people who always did it that way.

Extra bottles sold by popular demand.

If you have not heard this interview you should.

It is the president of Dyna Grow explaining what our plants actually need and why he produced the bloom bottle.

I have not used any pk type Bloom products for a couple of years now except for a test or two.

How do u store soil I bought a bag of happy frog I need to put it up how should I do it

 

[Bbcchance]

How do u store soil I bought a bag of happy frog I need to put it up how should I do it

I put mine in a rubber made tub, but you could store it anyway you want, its dirt, doesnt go bad

 

[Bakersfield]

Once a week, after a couple of reservoir changes, I'll run straight water through the system. I run a few gallons through the coco to wash any built up salts out. I do this as a precautionary step to avoid problems.
I do feed them right through til harvest. I don't get the fade that so many like, but my weed is never harsh.

 

[whitebb2727]

How about fox farms??? Do they need a flush

I wouldn't use their bottled nutrients. Lots of people report problems.

http://dyna-gro.com/contact/

For less than 20 bucks you get a quart of foliage pro a quart of protekt and a few pint bottles of stuff.

It will last for one or two plants for a long time.

Put the soil in a Rubbermaid tote and keep it moist. Not wet and not dry.

 

[whitebb2727]

I prefer water only organic soil.

 

[whitebb2727]

I use a simple organic soil. We have livestock and compost the manure with leaves and left over stuff from the garden and what not.

I have a worm bin.

Got the kids a rabbit. Rabbit manure is good to go fresh.

I mix soil, compost and worm castings for initial soil.

Once a month I add a handful of worm castings and a pinch of Espoma garden tone to my pots.

The garden tone will work by itself. It is a dry time release organic nutrient. Non burning.

Less than ten bucks for 8 pounds of it. Last a long time for a few plants.

 

[Yodaweed]

I use a simple organic soil. We have livestock and co.lost the manure with leaves and left over stuff from the garden and what not.

I have a worm bin.

Got the kids a rabbit. Rabbit manure is good to go fresh.

I mix soil, compost and worm castings.

Once a month I add a handful of worm castings and a pinch of Espoma garden tone to my pots.

The garden tone will work by itself. It is a dry time release organic nutrient. Non burning.
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Less than ten bucks for 8 pounds of it. Last a long time for a few plants.

What do you use for keeping PH in check? The compost good enough or do you use lime/oyster shell flour/gypsum/other?

 

[whitebb2727]

What do you use for keeping PH in check? The compost good enough or do you use lime/oyster shell flour/gypsum/other?

Oh yea. Forgot.

I use oyster shell that we feed the chickens and lime.

A cup of the oyster shell per cubic foot and what ever the bag says for the lime. Don't remember off the top of my head. About a handful per cubic foot or so.

 

[Lucky Luke]

which part(a,b,c,d etc) and who is "they"?

Any part that they mention " flushing is running pure water through a plant pot for one week according to dynaGrow
and flushing in dirt is using pure water for two weeks."
And they, would be Dyna grow.

Just interested were Dyna Grow give their definition of "flushing", which would be the above.
Ive seen the feed charts and looked on their website and cannot seem ti find it but i may be having what my wife calls a "man look".

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

How do u store soil I bought a bag of happy frog I need to put it up how should I do it

When I open a bag I pour it in a big Rubbermaid style bin with the latching lid. I break up all the clumps (very important) and mix in 25% large perlite thoroughly. Then put the lid on.

About a week later I always check the ph with a simple cup of soil pour through to make sure it is in the low to mid 6's.

I keep the stored mix in a spare bedroom with my veg tent.

 

[whitebb2727]

Lime and other ph adjusters aren't really needed in a good organic soil.

As organic matter decays it creates ions that buffer ph.

I still add a bit of lime and oyster for other reasons besides ph.

I use sea kelp also.

I also use other amendments at times like alfalfa meal, neem meal, and other meals.

Down to earth makes an all purpose that has all the good meals and kelp.

I've used various other soil amendments.

For a new organic grower just a simple mix will do.

The soil gets better with time.

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

I put mine in a rubber made tub, but you could store it anyway you want, its dirt, doesnt go bad

Actually I learned even Pro mix is strict about their expiration date. Depending on temp and moisture in storage the soil bacteria will actually eat the nutrients and the wetting agent will wear out and so can the lime over time.

I like to buy fresh bags from new pallets and make sure they are still light and fluffy. And stored inside.

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

Once a week, after a couple of reservoir changes, I'll run straight water through the system. I run a few gallons through the coco to wash any built up salts out. I do this as a precautionary step to avoid problems.
I do feed them right through til harvest. I don't get the fade that so many like, but my weed is never harsh.

This isn't damaging like it would be for an amended soil grow. You are using the coco as a hydro medium. Sure it works great!

 

[Bbcchance]

Actually I learned even Pro mix is strict about their expiration date. Depending on temp and moisture in storage the soil bacteria will actually eat the nutrients and the wetting agent will wear out and so can the lime over time.

I like to buy fresh bags from new pallets and make sure they are still light and fluffy. And stored inside.

Thanks for the tip, I'll look into that further, im cooking a home mix for a trial run

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

Thanks for the tip, I'll look into that further, im cooking a home mix for a trial run

I am sure the soil recyclers will explain how to fix this problem. I guess with no till it is quite different.

I am talking growing mediums. I don't know enough about fully ammended water only mixes.