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Nugachino

Nugachino

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How about this space. It's roughly a 1.5 foot square. The plant in question is an unknown indica heavy- possibly sativa crossed hybrid. Currently just over a month into revegetation. Mainfolded and lst'd to 14 main heads last run. Lights are 180w of Vero 29, 3500k. Little container off to the side are clones. I can move those.

What do you think- should I chuck in a scrog somewhere? That light is about a foot above the canopy. With another 2/3 a foot extra height. 20170705_142018.jpg149931673677428900479.jpg
 
since1991

since1991

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Nugachino said:
How about this space. It's roughly a 1.5 foot square. The plant in question is an unknown indica heavy- possibly sativa crossed hybrid. Currently just over a month into revegetation. Mainfolded and lst'd to 14 main heads last run. Lights are 180w of Vero 29, 3500k. Little container off to the side are clones. I can move those.

What do you think- should I chuck in a scrog somewhere? That light is about a foot above the canopy. With another 2/3 a foot extra height. View attachment 3973184View attachment 3973195
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That one looks like its already got a structure ideal for a scrog net. I say grow for it. If you train it right with the screen...flowering tops the entire area of the closet should be the result. Nice. Try and get that fan on the wall somwhow and get that clone dome outta there. Screw in some 1x1 wood strips right to the walls and tack a net (homemade with string or store bought - doesnt matter - just make sure its tight). Should be cleared for take off. Nice lamp as well. Keep us updated on progress. Id like to see what you pull.
 
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Nugachino

Nugachino

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So you reckon add a screen at about its current canopy height and go from there?

How large should the holes be? General size that is. I was eyeing off a nice rigid metal frame a while back. I can cut that to size easily.
 
since1991

since1991

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Nugachino said:
So you reckon add a screen at about its current canopy height and go from there?

How large should the holes be? General size that is. I was eyeing off a nice rigid metal frame a while back. I can cut that to size easily.
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Use the metal one or make yer own outta kite string. 2 to 4 inch squares should be good.
 
luv2grow

luv2grow

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Nugachino said:
So you reckon add a screen at about its current canopy height and go from there?

How large should the holes be? General size that is. I was eyeing off a nice rigid metal frame a while back. I can cut that to size easily.
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How many times have you topped her? Hard to tell from the pic. If it's more than 3-4 times you need a buffer above the plant say 4 inches to get that supple new trainable growth a window to roll. Just throwing it out there.
 
since1991

since1991

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luv2grow said:
How many times have you topped her? Hard to tell from the pic. If it's more than 3-4 times you need a buffer above the plant say 4 inches to get that supple new trainable growth a window to roll. Just throwing it out there.
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Makes sense. I take it you have alot of experience in scrog growing...no? Sounds like you know whats up with training plants with a screen. Way more than me no doubt. I have grown true scrog but it wasnt very long and some time ago. My operation requires a perpetual rotation with 2 or 3 rooms and scroggin wont cut it. Id like to again someday. For max yields with super low plant counts and all photo periods in one room grows...Scroggin is it.
 
Lucky Luke

Lucky Luke

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since1991 said:
Makes sense. I take it you have alot of experience in scrog growing...no? Sounds like you know whats up with training plants with a screen. Way more than me no doubt. I have grown true scrog but it wasnt very long and some time ago. My operation requires a perpetual rotation with 2 or 3 rooms and scroggin wont cut it. Id like to again someday. For max yields with super low plant counts and all photo periods in one room grows...Scroggin is it.
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You can do perpetual rotation with scrog to. Just need everything on wheels or a net per pot.
 
luv2grow

luv2grow

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since1991 said:
Makes sense. I take it you have alot of experience in scrog growing...no? Sounds like you know whats up with training plants with a screen. Way more than me no doubt. I have grown true scrog but it wasnt very long and some time ago. My operation requires a perpetual rotation with 2 or 3 rooms and scroggin wont cut it. Id like to again someday. For max yields with super low plant counts and all photo periods in one room grows...Scroggin is it.
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I had a amazing! ., and I can't say Amazing enough,... mentor into Scrog, that I haven't been able to get a hold of in years. Hope all is well with him and many thanks if he is still rolling around and happens to see this. Been passing on your knowledge homie!

That said, I've had quiet a few years in now. I don't always post but I am always scrogin.

And yeah you are correct! It's very hard to get it rolling heavy with solid outputs and multiple strains, When you have folks depending on you or your pocket book regardless the outcome is the same.
For perpetual scrog.... That is a nut that has been thrown back and forth here for years. I've seen it done very well. but I have also seen a lot more failures with it.

What I've amassed is if you design your grow room/room's from the ground up with the idea. It's totally doable. @Lucky Luke Is right. Casters are the most popular way for multi rooms, but that limits your screen size to the door widths. I am right now building a rail and winch driven lift system. I can't lie I'm not stoked on my current design of it and it's a bit of a challenge to get it all dialed, So I've taken my time to finish this last piece of the puzzle.
New room build is in my sig if you want to give the bare bones a gander. Any feedback or ideas are more than welcomed!. If you want you can PM and we can throw Ideas around for your space. Maybe we can come up with something usable.
 
since1991

since1991

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luv2grow said:
I had a amazing! ., and I can't say Amazing enough,... mentor into Scrog, that I haven't been able to get a hold of in years. Hope all is well with him and many thanks if he is still rolling around and happens to see this. Been passing on your knowledge homie!

That said, I've had quiet a few years in now. I don't always post but I am always scrogin.

And yeah you are correct! It's very hard to get it rolling heavy with solid outputs and multiple strains, When you have folks depending on you or your pocket book regardless the outcome is the same.
For perpetual scrog.... That is a nut that has been thrown back and forth here for years. I've seen it done very well. but I have also seen a lot more failures with it.

What I've amassed is if you design your grow room/room's from the ground up with the idea. It's totally doable. @Lucky Luke Is right. Casters are the most popular way for multi rooms, but that limits your screen size to the door widths. I am right now building a rail and winch driven lift system. I can't lie I'm not stoked on my current design of it and it's a bit of a challenge to get it all dialed, So I've taken my time to finish this last piece of the puzzle.
New room build is in my sig if you want to give the bare bones a gander. Any feedback or ideas are more than welcomed!. If you want you can PM and we can throw Ideas around for your space. Maybe we can come up with something usable.
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I remember first hearing of scrog and seeing pics in action WAY back in the overgrow.com days. One thread that just blew up quite a few pages and for some time...all about SCROGS and V SCROGS. I do believe that forum was where the term Screen of Green first came into play. What it was capable of really turned a few overgrowers heads for sure. Always did appreciate scroggin and the growers that took the time to do them right. And i was always impressed with the final yield tallys you guys brought down. Amazing
 
luv2grow

luv2grow

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That's what got me Hooked as well. It was still Illegal and crazy crackdowns when I decided to commit to this plant. So low plant count was huge in my book. After that all the benefits started to make sense and it just kinda fit with my style of work ethic. I get super bummed in flower now. Especially in the breeding tent I'm limited to until the rooms are finalized. But hey I love the plant and as long as I get to grow it pays me back ten fold emotionally.
 
Lucky Luke

Lucky Luke

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Plant count vs yeild is the reason im going to try it this run.

Not legal here and although the penalties here are not as severe as in the US I still dont want to risk extra penalties/charges. I did the rookie mistake and started to many plants before I thought about plant count (I usually grow guerrilla so plant count is a different kettle of fish) and space limitations of a tent.
 
luv2grow

luv2grow

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Lucky Luke said:
Plant count vs yeild is the reason im going to try it this run.

Not legal here and although the penalties here are not as severe as in the US I still dont want to risk extra penalties/charges. I did the rookie mistake and started to many plants before I thought about plant count (I usually grow guerrilla so plant count is a different kettle of fish) and space limitations of a tent.
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Yeah,
I can''t even imagine Guerrilla Growing. I love following along the thread's of those that do it. Just straight commitment at every end of the spectrum! Much respect. And welcome to the land of indoor controlled environments. You're gonna have a blast!
 
luv2grow

luv2grow

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Nugachino said:
Now that my money has finally gone in. I can go have a look at bummings warehouse and find myself a screen.
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well for that sq footage my friend you can go with a 1 by 1 inch wood frame and some string. I'm not sure what your tech skills are but let us know what you have available. And I'm sure we can help ya build something out.
 
Nugachino

Nugachino

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Tools wise. I've got a screwdriver set. A basic Dremel 3000 kit. A hammer. And various nails, screws and hooks.

I was looking at some wire mesh with 2.5cm squares. That's the closest thing to inch sized holes I could find. I mean, I could string something up. But I'd rather a drop in method. Than having to restring cord after every grow.
 
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