A question of light ... and lack thereof.

[Dr. Who]

Not joining the "pissing match", but I do not believe @Dr. Who to be full of shit. He comes across as very knowledgeable, experienced, and willing to share for the sake of "positive growth".

Thank you!

Unfortunately - I doubt this will effect anything......Kind sad in a way too.... C'Est la vie!

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

What claim? I "claimed" nothing in that last post.

You've seen the pics of hoods and MV's under them. NO outer jackets removed and I never "claimed" to actually run them with removed outer glass!

At each step I've fallen for your demands, you make more.....The point is that nothing I would do would stop you on your "mission" to discredit me. So - NO.....I'll continue to post what I want, when I want.

I have NOTHING to "prove" to YOU or anyone else.

I never called you a "hater"!

I asked for the information you used to imply/say that there is a safe method other then chemicals to create S1 seeds. I even, politely Thanked you for it in advance.

I know whats going to happen now. Your going to comeback with more accusations, call ME names and question my authenticity.

Here's what I think. You're a lonely, hurt man. Somewhere in your past, you got shit on. It's been with you ever sense and has shaped you into what you are today.

When I look back at how I answered questions here, how I reacted to some by assuming "I" knew what they were and what they actually knew.

I feel bad about how I treated them.

You know how I realized I was doing this? By the way you attack others you don't agree with. It made me feel ashamed for how I treated others.
It's NOT who I really am. It's not who I want to be!

I sure as hell don't expect you to stop. So, in the spirit of this site.......Do what works for you!

Troll to your hearts content!

I mean you answers to posts in general. If you were real you would prove it.

You did say you took the jackets off. But only after I pointed out you would have to.

And your armchair psychology is amusing but not accurate. Like most of your info that you pretend you have tested and taken notes.

I also never said there was an alternative to chemicals. I said that breeding techniques are used in addition to the chemicals.

It is obvious you have been exaggerating your experience the whole time. Maybe making it all up.

If I hurt anyone's feelings here they either invested time and money listening to an agenda filled "expert" or they are the fake expert and got caught.

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

Thank you!

Unfortunately - I doubt this will effect anything......Kind sad in a way too.... C'Est la vie!

Maybe I will take the time to prove it from your own posts.

 

[Odin*]

I haven't slept all night. More family (have several here already) arrived from out of the country (in-laws) @2am (stuck in "Immigration" for hours, wife had to pick them up). Also have a puppy here that is still getting acclimated (brought her home 12 hours ago). Watching her follow her dad around the yard, mimicking his every move (puppy for stud fee). Yesterday was a slow day, late start, still spent 9 hours with "the girls", finished at 4am. I might get a 2 hour power nap in (fam baby, 1.5 yr old daughter, 3 yr old son). Probably not.

Why are we "pissy" again? We're on the same team, and best I can tell, trying to spread the "good word".

 

[Odin*]

@MichiganMedGrower I really like the Ushio bulbs, worth a shot.

What do you veg under? I've found that the veg environment is as important as bloom.

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

@MichiganMedGrower I really like the Ushio bulbs, worth a shot.

What do you veg under? I've found that the veg environment is as important as bloom.

Been vegging in a tent under standard 6500k T-5 fluorescents. But am installing the 315 cmh soon to see how I like it.

I used to use a hortilux 400 blue mh when I grew with one reflector. It was faster than the t-5 and grew stouter plants.

The softer slower veg helps keep plants in "stasis" until a space in flower opens up.

It's a perpetual with one plant plugged in at a time and one harvested

I agree veg is as important as flowering to our results. Maybe more important especially from seed.

 

[Odin*]

Did I mention that my stud is just under 11 years old. Had him tested before breeding. Initially he came back at 800 million, but she wasn't "in heat". A month later he came back at 1.3 billion, dude is a fucking Rock Star (he probably beat a few out before the prior test).

Going to get some frozen, get another top female (pup), and keep a male from there (this pup is his daughter/grand daughter from "pick" female, don't want to inbreed further).

His grandfather, on both sides, is the top Champ for his breed, sired the most Champions as well.




Raise your girls well, end up with superior flowers. Take your genetics to their peak.

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

I haven't slept all night. More family (have several here already) arrived from out of the country (in-laws) @2am (stuck in "Immigration" for hours, wife had to pick them up). Also have a puppy here that is still getting acclimated (brought her home 12 hours ago). Watching her follow her dad around the yard, mimicking his every move (puppy for stud fee). Yesterday was a slow day, late start, still spent 9 hours with "the girls", finished at 4am. I might get a 2 hour power nap in (fam baby, 1.5 yr old daughter, 3 yr old son). Probably not.

Why are we "pissy" again? We're on the same team, and best I can tell, trying to spread the "good word".

I agree and disagree here. I am not on a team. I am a private individual. I don't even like team sports that much. I am (was) an adrenaline junkie. Snowboarding. Mountain bikes and kayaks are my chosen activities. Fun with friends and great all alone too.

I do play guitar. But have not been in a band since I was young.

And I don't believe the "good word" is taking the right direction. I would prefer to see no criminal consequences for pot like all of us but I also believe without us individual growers who care about the quality and the effects the meds are doomed to be crappy and ineffective.

And then they will just synthesize the cannabanoids when the corporations have taken over.

I have been saying this since the eighties.

 

[Odin*]

Been vegging in a tent under standard 6500k T-5 fluorescents. But am installing the 315 cmh soon to see how I like it.

I used to use a hortilux 400 blue mh when I grew with one reflector. It was faster than the t-5 and grew stouter plants.

The softer slower veg helps keep plants in "stasis" until a space in flower opens up.

It's a perpetual with one plant plugged in at a time and one harvested

I agree veg is as important as flowering to our results. Maybe more important especially from seed.

I recently brought my T5's out of retirement for testing on clones. That, and adding them in between veg lights (600's)

400's and 600's for veg (400's for first step after CFL for seedlings), 1k's for bloom. I dial the 1k's back, initially, to avoid "shock" (they tend to "cowar" away when first introduced).

 

[Dr. Who]

Maybe I will take the time to prove it from your own posts.

I would expect no less from you......sadly, it's who you really are.

I don't understand you anymore. One day we're happy and having deep interesting Discussions. I was really pleased with them. The next it's this shit.

I got more frustrated at you for your attacks on others - not just "him", but in general...... I, acting poorly, made a comment on the "other" place about how mad I was getting at you.
Betcha that someone over "there" filled you in on that and this is the result.......I'll also bet you deny this...

Sunni and I talked about what Odin just said. I saw more of the "light".

Please go back and reread the postings on the lights. I did not say "I removed them", only that with them removed they emit dangerous amounts of UV radiation. The pictures I gave - actually show that!

I thought we had covered the "breeding techniques", and them being very inferior to chemical, in earlier postings.
I guess I misinterpreted what you said to mean there was one that was stable.......I simply would have liked to see that information.

I respect your ability, and how you apply it. You went around learning how and why, before you grew. Big props for that! YOU GROW WELL!

The rest of you, not so much.....If that offends you - so be it...... I'll be answering or adding anything I feel like answering, to your postings, with the respect I mentioned above.

Please fell free to drag me through the mud as much as you like.........One day you may realize, that reflects upon your credibility too. This is an observation - Not an insult......

I have no need to.

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

Did I mention that my stud is just under 11 years old. Had him tested before breeding. Initially he came back at 800 million, but she wasn't "in heat". A month later he came back at 1.3 billion, dude is a fucking Rock Star (he probably beat a few out before the prior test).

Going to get some frozen, get another top female (pup), and keep a male from there (this pup is his daughter/grand daughter from "pick" female, don't want to inbreed further).

His grandfather, on both sides, is the top Champ for his breed, sired the most Champions as well.




Raise your girls well, end up with superior flowers. Take your genetics to their peak.

Mrs. MMG's grandfather bred blue heelers out here for years. Great stuff about the dogs!

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

I would expect no less from you......sadly, it's who you really are.

I don't understand you anymore. One day we're happy and having deep interesting Discussions. I was really pleased with them. The next it's this shit.

I got more frustrated at you for your attacks on others - not just "him", but in general...... I, acting poorly, made a comment on the "other" place about how mad I was getting at you.
Betcha that someone over "there" filled you in on that and this is the result.......I'll also bet you deny this...

Sunni and I talked about what Odin just said. I saw more of the "light".

Please go back and reread the postings on the lights. I did not say "I removed them", only that with them removed they emit dangerous amounts of UV radiation. The pictures I gave - actually show that!

I thought we had covered the "breeding techniques", and them being very inferior to chemical, in earlier postings.
I guess I misinterpreted what you said to mean there was one that was stable.......I simply would have liked to see that information.

I respect your ability, and how you apply it. You went around learning how and why, before you grew. Big props for that! YOU GROW WELL!

The rest of you, not so much.....If that offends you - so be it...... I'll be answering or adding anything I feel like answering, to your postings, with the respect I mentioned above.

Please fell free to drag me through the mud as much as you like.........One day you may realize, that reflects upon your credibility too. This is an observation - Not an insult......

I have no need to.

Please quit talking like you are everyone's dad.

And your own assumptions rule your every comment.

I have made my point. Many here agree with me. And no I have not spoken to any riddlers lately. Are you self fulfilled pretending I give that much attention to you.

I don't care really. I find it entertaining how you fake fuckers try to defend yourselves by pretending to beat me up.

This is an entertainment site. I am entertained by your desperation. Silly man.

There. I just spent another 30 seconds on you. Feed it to your ego.

Dad!

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

@MichiganMedGrower I really like the Ushio bulbs, worth a shot.

What do you veg under? I've found that the veg environment is as important as bloom.

I forgot to say. I will try the ushio in the future. My research confirms what you say about them. Nice.

 

[Dr. Who]

I recently brought my T5's out of retirement for testing on clones. That, and adding them in between veg lights (600's)

400's and 600's for veg (400's for first step after CFL for seedlings), 1k's for bloom. I dial the 1k's back, initially, to avoid "shock" (they tend to "cowar" away when first introduced).

I'm about to pull the trigger on the LEC system that (yes I'm saying it ) MMG recommended when I asked about his.
The early stage vegging plants (solo's and 1sies) will remain under T5 and the up-potting to 3-5-7 (actual volume size - not nursery pot #'s) to get to the flip point. Will go under that LEC system....

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

Oh yeah. @Dr. Who my credibility is not in question because of what I post.

My credibility is in my jars.

And in evidence I post all the time. Perpetually.

Yours is actually "Google".

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

I'm about to pull the trigger on the LEC system that (yes I'm saying it ) MMG recommended when I asked about his.
The early stage vegging plants (solo's and 1sies) will remain under T5 and the up-potting to 3-5-7 (actual volume size - not nursery pot #'s) to get to the flip point. Will go under that LEC system....

I have not tried the 315 in veg yet. All I have concluded is it grows very high quality resinous shorter more compact plants but is not powerful enough to stand on its own in my flower room.

 

[Odin*]

I agree and disagree here. I am not on a team. I am a private individual. I don't even like team sports that much. I am (was) an adrenaline junkie. Snowboarding. Mountain bikes and kayaks are my chosen activities. Fun with friends and great all alone too.

I do play guitar. But have not been in a band since I was young.

And I don't believe the "good word" is taking the right direction. I would prefer to see no criminal consequences for pot like all of us but I also believe without us individual growers who care about the quality and the effects the meds are doomed to be crappy and ineffective.

And then they will just synthesize the cannabanoids when the corporations have taken over.

I have been saying this since the eighties.

Enjoyed team sports, but didn't like the feeling of "carrying". Adrenaline, I used to ride dirt bikes, race boats, was getting into street bikes. Pretty much gave that up, but found a love for fast cars. Last toy was a 500hp AMG that I picked up in Germany.

I'm on a much larger scale, but I'm a micromanager of the worst sort. No joke, I have an intimate relationship with each and every plant, hundreds/thousands, at any given time...


Now I'm watching the squirrels play in my trees. I grew up shooting them, father hated them eating our fruits/vegetables, but I've grown empathetic. They eat my apples, nectarines, and apricots, but I don't hate them for it.

This, and watching the puppy. Wife doesn't want her shitting/pissing in the house (even though she's really good about going on absorbant pads), so she was put in the pool house bathroom. I could here her crying, just as I was going to sleep, which is why I'm still up. Have to get her shitting on the grass and swimming like a fish.

Uno mas cervesa, por favor. Cutting another crop in a couple days, that'll get my stash back on track.

Still backing @Dr. Who

 

[Dr. Who]

Oh yeah. @Dr. Who my credibility is not in question because of what I post.

My credibility is in my jars.

And in evidence I post all the time. Perpetually.

Yours is actually "Google".

I never said you had a lack of credibility, did I?

Then maybe we should get together and compare our "jars" and not our "ego's".....

Neutral ground? Park or something in between our locations?
Bring a cpl of beers and something to grill?

We can each post our smoke reports here after our personal comparisons?

No skin off my back!
I welcome the chance to compare "jars"!

The glove is down! Pick it up Med....

I have not tried the 315 in veg yet. All I have concluded is it grows very high quality resinous shorter more compact plants but is not powerful enough to stand on its own in my flower room.

I want to try it in there..... It will lower elec. costs and the effects on plants, sound like it's what I want in veg.

 

[Dr. Who]

@MichiganMedGrower

No threats, no weapons - No "possy's".
Wives - welcome if they want....

No trading phone numbers or giving out home locations - No pictures of each other...

Safe meeting - simple smoke testing.......that's all!

You opened to the door by saying your jars do the talking......I say mine do too!

 

[Buba Blend]

I haven't slept all night. More family (have several here already) arrived from out of the country (in-laws) @2am (stuck in "Immigration" for hours, wife had to pick them up). Also have a puppy here that is still getting acclimated (brought her home 12 hours ago). Watching her follow her dad around the yard, mimicking his every move (puppy for stud fee). Yesterday was a slow day, late start, still spent 9 hours with "the girls", finished at 4am. I might get a 2 hour power nap in (fam baby, 1.5 yr old daughter, 3 yr old son). Probably not.

Why are we "pissy" again? We're on the same team, and best I can tell, trying to spread the "good word".

I tried to distract them or hope they counted to 10 with my post of a 1975 grow book and with a picture of a plant with my dog in it. Post a pic of the puppy. Everybody loves puppies.
I love the arguments and debates, I remember when doctor who and MMD got along for a minute a few weeks ago. It was lonely when Dr Who was gone for a week and I hope you had a great vacation. I've learned a ton from both of you. I'll just be sad if someday you guys don't have make up sex.