Small ACMPR Kush Berry Grow

ThcGuy

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Day 27 Veg.

This morning I woke up kinda early and went to on check on my plants, they look pretty nice. I watered them @ 710ppm with the usual Remo Nutrients (Micro 7ml/gal, Grow 7ml/gal, MagNifiCal 7ml/gal & Velo Kelp 7ml/gal). By next watering I should be at the full recommended strength of 8ml/gal across the board. My reservoir ppm was ~500ppm, so basically it only dropped by 150ppm in two days. I thought I would see larger drops in the ppm as the plants get bigger but I guess not. I'm not too worried though as my plants are drinking about two cups (500ml) every two days from my 1.5L reservoirs, so they are getting fed.

Yesterday I contemplated doing the LST thing with my plants and decided to sleep on it, today I decided to go ahead with it and tied down all the plants to make bushes. If I knew for sure how many females and males I will end up with, the decision would have been so much easier. I'm hoping for 5 females and with LST this would fill my tent nicely but if I get more things might get a little tight. However I also want to be prepared for less than 5 females and doing a little LST should help me get enough smoke to last between grows.
 

Angus Hung

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Always the funny thing with seeds is you just never know.. Ive got a couple hundred seeds i cracked about a month ago and im always thinking of how im going to fire them all thru there bloom cycle but the variable throws off any panning i can do. just roll with the punches and hope for the best, but always plan for the worst.
 

Johnei

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Hey man, the way this kush is, I would somehow try get light to the lower nodes force them to pop out and up, so probably bend her over exposing bottoms I would say and maybe even release her after they're up n out, or not.
..and/or with those huge fat kush leaves, taking off a blade here n there to get light down to lowers is option also, or crazy tuck and tie technique on the huge fans instead of any cutting, then release later, bonzai style.
Topping/FIM'ing kush like this when they're young and they take forever, the nodes that would usually come out with more power underneath after topping are all hidden n blocked by the kush huge fan leaves and things just take forever it seems.. same happened with mine, 1-2weeks veg time gone from 'playing' with them too much.. wish I never did and just bent and trained from the start.
 

ThcGuy

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Always the funny thing with seeds is you just never know.. Ive got a couple hundred seeds i cracked about a month ago and im always thinking of how im going to fire them all thru there bloom cycle but the variable throws off any panning i can do. just roll with the punches and hope for the best, but always plan for the worst.
Yeah, its the seed crap shot that keeps messing with my thinking. If I had my way I would have 9 clones in there and just let them go but with seeds you never know. Oh well, maybe I'll find something special in this batch and get a good mother out of the deal, if not then I'll crack the Sweet Skunk x C99 next grow.
 

Angus Hung

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Im hoping for a couple of real keeper out of mine , 2 big fathers for a later breeding and a couple good pheno types for mothers.
out of 300 forum cut cookies X g13 I have about 250 that are looking like they will make it to the next teir
 

ThcGuy

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Hey man, the way this kush is, I would somehow try get light to the lower nodes force them to pop out and up, so probably bend her over exposing bottoms I would say and maybe even release her after they're up n out, or not.
..and/or with those huge fat kush leaves, taking off a blade here n there to get light down to lowers is option also, or crazy tuck and tie technique on the huge fans instead of any cutting, then release later, bonzai style.
Topping/FIM'ing kush like this when they're young and they take forever, the nodes that would usually come out with more power underneath after topping are all hidden n blocked by the kush huge fan leaves and things just take forever it seems.. same happened with mine, 1-2weeks veg time gone from 'playing' with them too much.. wish I never did and just bent and trained from the start.
Yeah, I bent them over today and the lower branch sites are getting light now. As of right now the big fans are not a huge issue so they can stay for now but I have no problem taking a couple off from time to time if I have to. As for the FIMing, definitely not with this strain, I knew this as it's pretty standard with most pure indicas but you never know so I tried and it cost me a week of good growth. I will not do this again with pure indica strains ever again.

I think I am going to try to LST the main stem around the entire bucket and then flip them to 12/12. I am guessing two more weeks minimum in veg. My thinking is the lower branches will fill out the center and keep everything low, giving me lots of good bud sites and keeping the main cola intact as they were missed when I FIMed (except for the two that were topped).
 

Johnei

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Making that circle will take lots of time bro.. probably quicker to make a X, bending main over then pulling 2 side branches over.. and then will fill in all over.. it would be really nice that circle, but just thinking for you, already time lost, and need smoke asap.. it would probably take lots of time man to circle the entire pot, time you do not have. lol

(lol.. this falls into my category of 'how i played with the kush too much' and lost time/pissed in the end.)
 

ThcGuy

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Making that circle will take lots of time bro.. probably quicker to make a X, bending main over then pulling 2 side branches over.. and then will fill in all over.. it would be really nice that circle, but just thinking for you, already time lost, and need smoke asap.. it would probably take lots of time man to circle the entire pot, time you do not have. lol

(lol.. this falls into my category of 'how i played with the kush too much' and lost time/pissed in the end.)

Yeah, quite possible I'll change my game plan again. Too often what I want and what I get end up being two completely different things, lol. Who knows I might go half way around and fill out the center and other side with branches. As for the smoke thing, if it gets bad enough I'll just buy some. Although I don't mind stopping for a month once a year or so to get my tolerance a little lower.

Also I do admit I am playing around a little too much but thats just me. The next grow will be more predictable as I will be dealing with only clones and probably put them into 12/12 as soon as they go in the tent.
 

ThcGuy

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Today I tightened up the strings that I put on a couple days ago and added a new string to get the plants pointed in the right direction. Doing this has really opened up the bottom branch sites to the light. Things are starting to grow fast again now that they have recovered from the botched FIMing that I did ten days ago.

As soon as I get each bucket filled up with tops I will flip them to 12/12. I'm guessing that should be around The first of August. This should give me smoke for Canadian Thanksgiving.
 

Angus Hung

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sounds like you got it sorted.. iv got many half cocked idea firing all at once iv got 100s way to many plant hahaha
better to many then not enough.. unless its a bust then less is better
 

ThcGuy

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sounds like you got it sorted.. iv got many half cocked idea firing all at once iv got 100s way to many plant hahaha
better to many then not enough.. unless its a bust then less is better
Yeah, I hear that. When I was younger I used to grow hundreds all from clone and they pretty much only got foliar sprays and food. Too many to mess with if I would have tried anything else.
 

Angus Hung

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ive got this pheno hunt started in the middle of my out door in the middle of my indoor, and am trying to fire off a quick breeding before the out door changes over i think it may work out but will be close.. i just hope i dont accidently pollenate any thing when messing with the male plant
 

ThcGuy

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Today I watered again, I think daily watering might be required from here on out as it took .5L to top up my 1.5L reservoirs. I bumped up the nutrients to the recommended dose of 8ml/gallon of Micro, Grow, MagNifiCal and Velo Kelp. This brought my ppm's up to 820ppm. Run off was 460ppm.

I also selectively trimmed a few leaves on each plant while trying to not take entire leaves but just individual leaf blades to allow light to penetrate the foliage on my lower branches. I think I did take three entire leaf's off but I did try to avoid taking the whole leaf off where possible.

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ThcGuy

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Pretty boring day in the garden today. Just a bit of water and thats it. The lower branch tops are catching up to the main cola and should produce a bushier plant with more tops having good access to light. I want to flip soooooo badly!
 

torontoke

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I think u might be better off skipping the daily watering.
I've found letting them get good and dry(lightweight) gives them more of a kick start growth spurt when u do water or feed again.
It's also a lot easier to over water then under water.
Just my opinion sir please disregard if u take offense.

They are looking like they are about to really bush out
 

Angus Hung

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I take the same approach torontoke.. treat em mean keep em keen.
but i suppose if you just watered very little every day you may find the perfect amount, but may over water
 

ThcGuy

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I think u might be better off skipping the daily watering.
I've found letting them get good and dry(lightweight) gives them more of a kick start growth spurt when u do water or feed again.
It's also a lot easier to over water then under water.
Just my opinion sir please disregard if u take offense.

They are looking like they are about to really bush out
Yeah, this is completely new to me. I have never used hempy buckets before and my concern was my roots would possibly be damaged as they become exposed to more air (I could be completely wrong, not sure) is it ok to let the level drop in hempy buckets? My coco is always dry on the top half of the pots, should it be dry or moist? Should I be watering the coco too?

As far as taking offense, I will never take offense for someone trying to help me out. I may voice my opinion and it might be different but I still appreciate all comments and suggestions because I might learn something new.

Thanks to everyone posting suggestions here to assist me with my first grow in a long time.
 

torontoke

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Yeah, this is completely new to me. I have never used hempy buckets before and my concern was my roots would possibly be damaged as they become exposed to more air (I could be completely wrong, not sure) is it ok to let the level drop in hempy buckets? My coco is always dry on the top half of the pots, should it be dry or moist? Should I be watering the coco too?

As far as taking offense, I will never take offense for someone trying to help me out. I may voice my opinion and it might be different but I still appreciate all comments and suggestions because I might learn something new.

Thanks to everyone posting suggestions here to assist me with my first grow in a long time.
I've only recently switched to hempy myself.
What I did was ran a thick straw down one of the corner of the pail. This allows some air to down to the res and also helps wick some of the moisture that would generally get stuck in the lower half.
When it comes to watering I usually water and or feed every other day but that's one of the perks of this method is that the res should be able to keep them happy for a few days.
If you fill the res with expensive nutes and then water the next day all your doing is watering down and displacing the nutes.
I'd say only add when they feel light.
My lower fans get weepy af so I can tell by looking at them.

Your plants are looking good for a guys first run back
 
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