Evil Liberal Politicians in Oregon enact bicycle tax! WTF?!!

tampee

tampee

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Fogdog said:
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Its all part of a highway bill. You don't think that rural areas benefit more from improvements in the highway system than is collected from same areas?

Why do you hate bicycles?
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Nobody in rural areas will benefit from this. Takes me 30 minutes in a car to get to the highway fuck doing that on a bicycle would take all day for a round trip.
 
Bear420

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If you ride a bike it is fair for what they do to the Bike Trails around here I often wonder where the money comes from, we have some of the best trails in the U.S he in the U.P. If it cost me 15 bucks here which it doesn't yet but I would pay it in a heartbeat. I ride 20 miles a day when I Can.
 
blu3bird

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tampee said:
Nobody in rural areas will benefit from this. Takes me 30 minutes in a car to get to the highway fuck doing that on a bicycle would take all day for a round trip.
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The bike paths by me connect rural to city, and it beats the fuck out of driving and fighting with city rush hour traffic. I can ride my bike from my rural location up into the city safely along the bike path. It's about a 25 mile ride and takes 75-90 minutes.

Maybe it's the same out there in Oregon?
 
blu3bird

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Bear420 said:


If you ride a bike it is fair for what they do to the Bike Trails around here I often wonder where the money comes from, we have some of the best trails in the U.S he in the U.P. If it cost me 15 bucks here which it doesn't yet but I would pay it in a heartbeat. I ride 20 miles a day when I Can.
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The U.P.? Haha, hell yeah!
 
st0wandgrow

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Bear420 said:


If you ride a bike it is fair for what they do to the Bike Trails around here I often wonder where the money comes from, we have some of the best trails in the U.S he in the U.P. If it cost me 15 bucks here which it doesn't yet but I would pay it in a heartbeat. I ride 20 miles a day when I Can.
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Heading up to Munising/Pictured Rocks in a couple weeks. Never been to the UP before!
 
Bear420

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You know what is costs to ride my Snowmobile before I even gas it up,, 50 bucks just for the Trial sticker then Reg, for 3 years So before I even gas up it's about 75.00.
I would also add that the Trail Permits about 7 years ago was 15 bucks. But the Trails here are awesome so I gladly pay that. It would be nice had the price not climbed so high but then again the trails are high quality. ;)
 
Fogdog

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blu3bird said:
The bike paths by me connect rural to city, and it beats the fuck out of driving and fighting with city rush hour traffic. I can ride my bike from my rural location up into the city safely along the bike path. It's about a 25 mile ride and takes 75-90 minutes.

Maybe it's the same out there in Oregon?
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I love to ride but our winters get pretty miserable. Not year round. OTH, the people who are riding in slippery and poor visibility conditions need all the help they can get to arrive safely at their destination. My rides are usually short. I live about 4 miles from town center and can quite happily stay close to home most of the time. Work is nearby too. I live in the a smaller city/township of about 60,000. When I visit Portland, I take the roads by car just like everybody else. I wouldn't go there and spend money if I had to walk.

This is a small tax added to a yuuuuuge highway bill. Rural areas most definitely can't pay for highway maintenance on their own. In some counties, the county roads are a joke. You only use them if there isn't a state highway nearby. Highways are a public asset used by everybody and of critical importance to commerce and the economy. Absolutely no way that a farmer can pay for maintenance of all the roads in his area.

How else do farmers get their crops to market? They don't walk. Would ox-carts be an acceptable replacement for roads designed for heavy, high speed vehicles? He might be able to keep a rutted dirt road open for a few months out of the year. Then again, cities need to do business with those same farmers and our roads make that possible.

@tampee is approaching the level of Rob Roy with his current line of bitching. City people are definitely subsidizing his access to good roads. The public benefit goes both ways. And, if you don't like the bicycle tax, there are plenty of good used bikes out there that can be had for a lot less than the new ones that have $15 tacked onto them.
 
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Fogdog

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tampee said:
Takes me 30 minutes in a car to get to the highway fuck doing that on a bicycle would take all day for a round trip.
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Your own words make my case for me. Dumbshit. Takes 30 minutes to get to the highway. And then? Don't tell me you just turn around and go home all the time.

If you said you are self sustained and make less than one trip out from your hovel, I'd have to tip my cap and say good for you. But then again, you'd never pay gasoline road taxes or that bicycle tax, so again would wonder what you are bitching about. As it is, you just want to leech and bitch. Quite common among Trump supporters these days.
 
blu3bird

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Fogdog said:
I love to ride but our winters get pretty miserable. Not year round. OTH, the people who are riding in slippery and poor visibility conditions need all the help they can get to arrive safely at their destination. My rides are usually short. I live about 4 miles from town center and can quite happily stay close to home most of the time. Work is nearby too. I live in the a smaller city/township of about 60,000. When I visit Portland, I take the roads by car just like everybody else. I wouldn't go there and spend money if I had to walk.

This is a small tax added to a yuuuuuge highway bill. Rural areas most definitely can't pay for highway maintenance on their own. In some counties, the county roads are a joke. You only use them if there isn't a state highway nearby. Highways are a public asset used by everybody and of critical importance to commerce and the economy. Absolutely no way that a farmer can pay for maintenance of all the roads in his area.

How else do farmers get their crops to market? They don't walk. Would ox-carts be an acceptable replacement for roads designed for heavy, high speed vehicles? He might be able to keep a rutted dirt road open for a few months out of the year. Then again, cities need to do business with those same farmers and our roads make that possible.

@tampee is approaching the level of Rob Roy with his current line of bitching. City people are definitely subsidizing his access to good roads. The public benefit goes both ways. And, if you don't like the bicycle tax, there are plenty of good used bikes out there that can be had for a lot less than the new ones that have $15 tacked onto them.
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That is one thing you will never hear me complaining about is taxes that go for any kind of infrastructure. Our roads in Michigan are terrible, they take a beating from hot summers and cold winters, the asphalt expands and contracts gets potholes and cracks everywhere.

And the rural dirt roads get tore up badly from the farm equipment constantly driving on them, the county has to come and grade my road about every 3 weeks. The county I'm in actually takes pretty good care of their roads here, a couple times a summer they even come and soak the road with some chemical (something chloride?) to keep the dust down. I feel very fortunate they keep the roads plowed in the winter too, I'm surrounded by open cornfields and the winds coming off lake Michigan make insane 10 foot tall snow drifts, I've seen the county plow my road twice a day sometimes when we get blizzard, I am more than happy to pay taxes for upkeep of the roads.
 
st0wandgrow

st0wandgrow

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Bear420 said:
You're going to love it, you may even consider moving here, Munising is not far from where I am at all. Go out on Glass Bottom boats and got to Castle Rock you will really enjoy that. Have fun be safe
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The old lady booked some kayak/dinner gig one night, but I'll definitely check out the glass bottom boat and castle rock too. I've heard nothing but good stuff about the UP...looking forward to it!


blu3bird said:
Driving over the bridge is awesome, check out Tahquamenon Falls while you're up there.
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I've heard the bridge is a bit butt-hole puckering. I saw it when we were up in Mackinaw last year. Friggin huge! We have a day trip planned to see the falls along with some hiking around them. Gonna leave the Indica at home for this trip
 
Moldy

Moldy

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Sounds like a good tax. If you've ever been to Portland the fucking bikes in town are dangerous. If you don't pay attention they'll run your ass over. You can't hear them coming and at night you hope they have a light on.
 
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