Fogdog
Well-Known Member
Everybody votes in their own self interest. Always
What people value and identify as in their self interest is up to them. As much as I disagree with Flaming Pie, I have no doubt she votes the manner she decides is in her own best interest. The faux news and right wing voting recipient are a team.
Propaganda can harden and maybe sway people who want to be convinced. Does propaganda work on people who are in opposition to the idea that the propagandist is promoting? Some say not.
Why Does Propaganda Work? Some People Want It
For propaganda to be effective, it requires submissive subjects. As Professor Nicholas O’Shaughnessy wrote, propaganda is a “co-production in which we are willing participants.”
https://fee.org/articles/why-does-propaganda-work-some-people-want-it/
Sanders supporters got bit by fake news propaganda last year. Really, really bad. They haven't recovered. Probably won't ever.
Bernie Sanders’ Campaign Faced A Fake News Tsunami. Where Did It Come From?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-fake-news-russia_us_58c34d97e4b0ed71826cdb36
An excerpt:
Cowling, a retired postal worker, said some of her Facebook group members were ready to believe the bogus news links. “People were so anti-Hillary that no matter what you said, they were willing to share it and spread it,” she said. “At first I would just laugh about it. I would say, ‘C’mon, this is beyond ridiculous.’ I created a word called ‘ridiculosity.’ I would say, ‘This reeks of ridiculosity.’”
But Cowling got pushback. She was called a “Hillbot” and a Trump supporter. She ended up removing dozens of members who refused to stop pushing conspiracy theories. “I lost quite a few friends,” she said.
One guy went through a very concise step by step exercise of documenting how one fake news story propagated through the bernie supporter social media mill. His reward? He was booted from the group.
The message that got him booted?
Guys, I sincerely love you. I love your passion. I love your fire. I love all of that. But when 400 people are circle-jerking clickbait links in between wondering how Hillary Clinton is behind the FEMA Earthquake drill that happens on several days with one of them being primary day?
Holy shit.
You are allowing yourselves to be manipulated. Through the practice of taking anything that agrees with your opinion at face value, actively refusing to believe anything but what agrees with your narrative and following that up with blatant disregard for doing two minutes of searching to verify the information: you become the myopic Trump supporter that you so vocally loathe.
What people value and identify as in their self interest is up to them. As much as I disagree with Flaming Pie, I have no doubt she votes the manner she decides is in her own best interest. The faux news and right wing voting recipient are a team.
Propaganda can harden and maybe sway people who want to be convinced. Does propaganda work on people who are in opposition to the idea that the propagandist is promoting? Some say not.
Why Does Propaganda Work? Some People Want It
For propaganda to be effective, it requires submissive subjects. As Professor Nicholas O’Shaughnessy wrote, propaganda is a “co-production in which we are willing participants.”
https://fee.org/articles/why-does-propaganda-work-some-people-want-it/
Sanders supporters got bit by fake news propaganda last year. Really, really bad. They haven't recovered. Probably won't ever.
Bernie Sanders’ Campaign Faced A Fake News Tsunami. Where Did It Come From?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-fake-news-russia_us_58c34d97e4b0ed71826cdb36
An excerpt:
Cowling, a retired postal worker, said some of her Facebook group members were ready to believe the bogus news links. “People were so anti-Hillary that no matter what you said, they were willing to share it and spread it,” she said. “At first I would just laugh about it. I would say, ‘C’mon, this is beyond ridiculous.’ I created a word called ‘ridiculosity.’ I would say, ‘This reeks of ridiculosity.’”
But Cowling got pushback. She was called a “Hillbot” and a Trump supporter. She ended up removing dozens of members who refused to stop pushing conspiracy theories. “I lost quite a few friends,” she said.
One guy went through a very concise step by step exercise of documenting how one fake news story propagated through the bernie supporter social media mill. His reward? He was booted from the group.
The message that got him booted?
Guys, I sincerely love you. I love your passion. I love your fire. I love all of that. But when 400 people are circle-jerking clickbait links in between wondering how Hillary Clinton is behind the FEMA Earthquake drill that happens on several days with one of them being primary day?
Holy shit.
You are allowing yourselves to be manipulated. Through the practice of taking anything that agrees with your opinion at face value, actively refusing to believe anything but what agrees with your narrative and following that up with blatant disregard for doing two minutes of searching to verify the information: you become the myopic Trump supporter that you so vocally loathe.
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