My ugly-ass clones

cannn

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You have to change the water every few days or so.
I do. Almost everyday. I use softened water but it works just fine for my clones under the dome. Also dont bother phing. Never had a problem in my actual cloner from it. Always roots in a week or 2 at most.
 
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ChefKimbo

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Its easy. Use soil. If growing in hydro the soil can be rinsed from the roots. I've done it. I built a cloner and went back to soil if that says anything.
I recently did the same, had slime issues with the bubble cloner. So now i'm experimenting with just letting the cuttings sit in the cloner for 7 days, if they survive(heat) then I transfer to soil and wait for roots. RH is consistently 65%+ so no need for domes. This will improve my rates I think. What I have not mastered yet is how moist to keep the soil and how to avoid dampening of the stem. Any suggestions?
 

cannn

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I recently did the same, had slime issues with the bubble cloner. So now i'm experimenting with just letting the cuttings sit in the cloner for 7 days, if they survive(heat) then I transfer to soil and wait for roots. RH is consistently 65%+ so no need for domes. This will improve my rates I think. What I have not mastered yet is how moist to keep the soil and how to avoid dampening of the stem. Any suggestions?
Did you try 2ml per gallon hydroguard in the cloner? Ill bet that would fix the slime/rot issue and youd get roots faster than in soil

Back when i cloned in soil it always took one month if not more depending on strain and stem thickness. Now in my little water tray rooting plug cloner setup its usually 1-2 weeks, 2 being the max lately.
 
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whitebb2727

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Did you try 2ml per gallon hydroguard in the cloner? Ill bet that would fix the slime/rot issue and youd get roots faster than in soil

Back when i cloned in soil it always took one month if not more depending on strain and stem thickness. Now in my little water tray rooting plug cloner setup its usually 1-2 weeks, 2 being the max lately.
Nah. It doesn't take me a month to get roots in soil.
I recently did the same, had slime issues with the bubble cloner. So now i'm experimenting with just letting the cuttings sit in the cloner for 7 days, if they survive(heat) then I transfer to soil and wait for roots. RH is consistently 65%+ so no need for domes. This will improve my rates I think. What I have not mastered yet is how moist to keep the soil and how to avoid dampening of the stem. Any suggestions?
At first you want it to stay damp but not soaking wet. After a week you can let the soil dry some. If they droop then water.
 

dbkick

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Flying Skull clone guard or vitagrow anti-wilt. Stops transpiration dead, kills any pests that may be on the cut.
No dome needed.
 

cannn

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Nah. It doesn't take me a month to get roots in soil.

At first you want it to stay damp but not soaking wet. After a week you can let the soil dry some. If they droop then water.
Idk what it is that makes all our results so different but for me it did take one month in fox farm ocean forest in little cups to see roots, when the ones in my tray wouldve filled up the tray and started dying from lack of nutes by then
 

whitebb2727

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Idk what it is that makes all our results so different but for me it did take one month in fox farm ocean forest in little cups to see roots, when the ones in my tray wouldve filled up the tray and started dying from lack of nutes by then
I don't know either.

I get roots in one to two weeks in soil.
 

ChefKimbo

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I would rather not run the bubbler again, it was just a reaction to the frustration with cloning in soil. In soil I have had cuts root in 8 days, other times upto a month. It was the dampening off that ran me to the bubbler. I prefer soil so getting the moisture levels right for my area is the key. I've been losing a lot of cuts to dampening.
 

*BUDS

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The mother plant must have been in bad condition.
Some of these clones are the worst ugliest fucking things ive ever seen.
 

JSB99

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The mother plant must have been in bad condition.
Some of these clones are the worst ugliest fucking things ive ever seen.

LOL! Maybe I should've used that as my title. "The ugliest fucking clones you've ever seen!"

There were a couple things I wasn't doing correctly. After some guidance I got my new ones to stay much "prettier" :-)

These are about a week old and starting to root a little...

 

cannn

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LOL! Maybe I should've used that as my title. "The ugliest fucking clones you've ever seen!"

There were a couple things I wasn't doing correctly. After some guidance I got my new ones to stay much "prettier" :-)

These are about a week old and starting to root a little...

What did you change?
 

JSB99

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What did you change?
I had too much light. I've got 2 x 24" T8s about 10" above the newer clones on the bottom. I turned one of them off and raised the light a couple inches. Also, I had been using spring water but read that unbalanced tap is fine. Not sure if that had any effect, but my new clones are looking way better than the others.

On the top, which is where I'm temporarily doing early veg with rooted clones, I had 6 x 23w 6500K CFLs about 6" - 8" away. Now, I've only got 2 going and they're about 12" away. Also, I was overfeeding the early rooted clones, so I flushed, gave plain pH water for a couple days, then used half the strength nutes. They're ugly as shit, but still hanging in there. Lots of roots and new growth. Does early stress effect the life of the plant? I'm wondering if these are even worth saving if they've had such a rough start. I took the newer cuttings just in case these weren't going to be any good.
 

JSB99

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Is that basil growing down there? Lol

Didnt know you could do that without causing any problems

Actually, it's mint. I'm trying to cross breed the Headband and the mint to create "Headmint"! Oh, that's not how you cross breed?

LOL j/k
I read that it helps keep critters away. I didn't really think I was going to have problems with critters, but I thought it'd just be cool :-) As an added bonus, I think the shade it provides on the top soil may help to keep temps down a little. :-)
 

cannn

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Actually, it's mint. I'm trying to cross breed the Headband and the mint to create "Headmint"! Oh, that's not how you cross breed?

LOL j/k
I read that it helps keep critters away. I didn't really think I was going to have problems with critters, but I thought it'd just be cool :-) As an added bonus, I think the shade it provides on the top soil may help to keep temps down a little. :-)
Ill remember that. Cant really grow outside here without worrying a lot but at one point i tried putting plants outside and they got dug up. We have moles and deer and tortoises and rabbits and all sorts of shit around here thatll mess with my girls.

Beautiful plant btw. Taking really great care of it!
 

JSB99

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Ill remember that. Cant really grow outside here without worrying a lot but at one point i tried putting plants outside and they got dug up. We have moles and deer and tortoises and rabbits and all sorts of shit around here thatll mess with my girls.
I hear ya. I'm in Oregon, and a lot of people are starting to do backyard grows now that it's legal. My bud has a small 10' x 10' chainlink fence in his backyard to keep thieves and animals away. With this one, she's outside during the day, and in at night. I had her on an 18/6 schedule, so when she wasn't outside, she was under a 600w MH. I was keeping her in a tent while I was finishing up on my grow room. I just flipped her. She's now in a blacked-out isolated room for 12, and outside for 12. I take her out each morning at 7:00 sharp. I flipped her because I need to have my own around the end of September (2-months flower).

Meanwhile, the grow room is sealed, sanitized, sterilized, bugified, and all that. When these clones take off, I'll be growing 4 in the tent and keeping one as a Bonsai Mum. I'm going to keep a few mums on the shelf above the clones.


Beautiful plant btw. Taking really great care of it!
Thanks! I topped her early on because she was stretching. It's why she's got a canopy. She's in coco on GH Floro nutes
 

JDMase

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Hey man I made a thread similar to this, same issues. I tried air layering. It worked mostly but then along the way it somehow died. Nevertheless I did it, but in the mean time I got good advice similar to yours.

Basically I was told to add warmth (heat mat or warm window sill) only sprayed the dome not the actual plants, and I used root riot cubes and gave up with Rockwool. I sprayed the cubes I didn't pour water over them in case I washed away the rooting gel and powder
 
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