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Fogdog

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There are issues that I care about, and I cast my vote for the candidate that best represents those interests. I don't care what party they represent. Call it whatever you like, but no candidate is entitled to my vote. I didn't vote third party out of spite, or being entitled. That you cannot understand that, and continue to ridicule and wag your finger makes you the entitled baby, not me.
Read what I said and try to do so objectively. I basically agree that entitled privileged bitches are completely capable of voting in a manner that cedes control to Republicans and do so in their own self interests. I point out that you are going to be fine no matter what Republicans do, and so I see how you can make that choice. I still think you are a privileged entitled white male bitch because of your actions. There is no contradiction here.
 

st0wandgrow

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Please describe a scenario where you did this. What was the issue and who were the candidates? Which race?
I voted for Jill Stein. Her platform encompassed pretty much everything I support. Environmental protection, a living wage for all, Medicare for all, women's rights, equal pay, supportive of immigrants, a sane foreign policy, etc.

Why would I *not* vote for a candidate that represents pretty much everything I'm looking for? Casting a vote for someone that I mostly disagree with just to keep the other guy out of office is a game I refuse to play. We will never have a viable 3'rd party in this country if we keep selecting the lesser of two evils.
 

dagwood45431

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Fun fact: I haven't once mentioned anything about him. Only you are doing that.
Really? Well then, this is weird, you fucking nut:

Well that's pretty stupid.

I voted for Hillary. The problem is you're a child that wants to blame somebody else because you dropped your ice cream.

The fact is, there is nobody to blame but Hillary Clinton. She had a decent chance of beating Bernie without all the underhanded dealing and cheating. She didn't want to risk it and cheated.

She got caught doing it.

That's going to upset some people, but it isn't the fault of Bernie supporters. Hillary still won the popular vote. The VAST majority of us who were actually looking at Bernie still voted for Hillary even after the fact just to stop Trump.

The voters weren't the problem. Hillary won. It was the electoral college that let Trump in.

That happened for only one reason: several of the electorates were upset with Hillary cheating, so they either didn't vote at all or voted for Trump to teach the DNC a lesson.

Lesson learned apparently, as the entire DNC was pretty much gutted.

All of that was brought about by one person and one person only: Hillary Clinton. Nobody else has a single thing to do with it.
 

TacoMac

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Really? Well then, this is weird, you fucking nut:
You need to take more blood pressure medication before you blow a gasket.

I understand you have a deep seeded need to blame everybody else for all of your problems, but you're taking it to a very unhealthy level. Truly, you are.
 

dagwood45431

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You need to take more blood pressure medication before you blow a gasket.

I understand you have a deep seeded need to blame everybody else for all of your problems, but you're taking it to a very unhealthy level. Truly, you are.
So, not going to address the glaring lie of yours I just proved, then? Got it.
 

Fogdog

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I voted for Jill Stein. Her platform encompassed pretty much everything I support. Environmental protection, a living wage for all, Medicare for all, women's rights, equal pay, supportive of immigrants, a sane foreign policy, etc.

Why would I *not* vote for a candidate that represents pretty much everything I'm looking for? Casting a vote for someone that I mostly disagree with just to keep the other guy out of office is a game I refuse to play. We will never have a viable 3'rd party in this country if we keep selecting the lesser of two evils.
I took a good hard look at the Green Party. I campaigned for a local measure the Oregon Green Party introduced. If you had stuck with this position, then no problems with me. If you vote your conscience and you really believed what you said it's all good. I think you are fibbing.

I think this is the first time you mentioned Stein. Up until now, it's been all about how terrible Clinton is. The negative reason is the one I've taken issue with. "I didn't vote for Clinton, because...." is a negative reason and overlooks the consequences of putting Republicans in power. Given all the time you've spent saying this, I think you voted for Stein in protest, rather than some glowingly good opinion of her. So, yes, I'm calling you out for a fib. Not an outright lie, but a fib, the kind one would expect an entitled privileged white male bitch to say.
 

ttystikk

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Here's a good working title for a book about Bernie babies:

Trite, Feckless and Loud

I like Bernie. You fucktards have damned near ruined him for me. Good strategy.

Vacuous, yet utterly devoid of substance.

I'm coming to expect more of this from you.

If you have a specific gripe, I'm all ears.

I'm out of time for drivel.
 

ttystikk

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Because she didn't have a chance of winning (absolutely none, and you know it) and allowing a Trump presidency would be disastrous for our country (as it's proving to be). Your vote sucked, no matter how free you were to make it.
That's your opinion.

Maybe if your choice actually had anyone in mind but her banker friends, she'd have done better.

But anything to distract from that fact, eh?
 
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Fogdog

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You need to take more blood pressure medication before you blow a gasket.

I understand you have a deep seeded need to blame everybody else for all of your problems, but you're taking it to a very unhealthy level. Truly, you are.
By the way, it's "deep-seated", dumdum. You're welcome.
Exactly whose blood pressure was elevated? Most likely the one who started making spelling errors in a childish reply to a post where he got pantsed.
 

st0wandgrow

Well-Known Member
I took a good hard look at the Green Party. I campaigned for a local measure the Oregon Green Party introduced. If you had stuck with this position, then no problems with me. If you vote your conscience and you really believed what you said it's all good. I think you are fibbing.

I think this is the first time you mentioned Stein. Up until now, it's been all about how terrible Clinton is. The negative reason is the one I've taken issue with. "I didn't vote for Clinton, because...." is a negative reason and overlooks the consequences of putting Republicans in power. Given all the time you've spent saying this, I think you voted for Stein in protest, rather than some glowingly good opinion of her. So, yes, I'm calling you out for a fib. Not an outright lie, but a fib, the kind one would expect an entitled privileged white male bitch to say.
Well, this certainly wouldn't be the first time you were wrong. On that I'm sure we can agree.

Would I have preferred to cast my vote for someone at the top of the Dem ticket that I supported? Sure. I knew full well that Stein didn't have a chance in hell to win. The fact that Stein embodied most everything that I was looking for, and the fact that I have long believed that a viable 3'rd party in this country would be a good thing made my decision a no-brainer. Whether you believe me or not is irrelevant.
 

ttystikk

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Well, this certainly wouldn't be the first time you were wrong. On that I'm sure we can agree.

Would I have preferred to cast my vote for someone at the top of the Dem ticket that I supported? Sure. I knew full well that Stein didn't have a chance in hell to win. The fact that Stein embodied most everything that I was looking for, and the fact that I have long believed that a viable 3'rd party in this country would be a good thing made my decision a no-brainer. Whether you believe me or not is irrelevant.
They can't argue with you on the merits, so they have to resort to calling you a liar, lol
 

Fogdog

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Well, this certainly wouldn't be the first time you were wrong. On that I'm sure we can agree.

Would I have preferred to cast my vote for someone at the top of the Dem ticket that I supported? Sure. I knew full well that Stein didn't have a chance in hell to win. The fact that Stein embodied most everything that I was looking for, and the fact that I have long believed that a viable 3'rd party in this country would be a good thing made my decision a no-brainer. Whether you believe me or not is irrelevant.
I took a good look at the Green Party and found them unready for leadership. The party either needs to attract experienced mainstream politicians like Bernie or they need to grow at the grass roots. I listened to Stein and could not imagine her as an effective leader of the country. And so could not vote for her. I'm not able to deny what you just said about yourself but if I take your words at face value, you say Stein would have been a good president. OK, so "better than Trump" would be accurate. But she was unready for office. Didn't deserve my vote.

I support the Green Party locally because that is the best way to grow a third party organically. It's a long term proposition and am willing to participate, watch and wait for the time when it is a viable party for national offices. Stein was not, nor was Nader when he ran under their banner. Why didn't Bernie jump ship? Probably because he didn't feel the Green party was ready either. And he wanted to make a contribution that helped his cause not hurt it by splitting the party at a crucial moment. Which Bernie babies did anyway.
 

dagwood45431

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They can't argue with you on the merits, so they have to resort to calling you a liar, lol
Stop with the bullshit, ttystikk. As has been demonstrated, you are not above name calling yourself. You people are fucking weird. Seriously. Nothing ever squares with you fucktards.
 
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