FBI Raids Manafort residence.

[ttystikk]

No. A presidential pardon is absolute. There is no crime that can't be pardoned by the President. Not even Murder, War Crimes and Crimes Against Humanity.

Treason is the exception.

 

[Jimdamick]

The operative words are "THINKS, MAY HAVE, BELIEVES, COULD HAVE and POSSIBLY" in those articles.

To date, as fact, they don't. And again, even if they did they have no reentry system, no guidance system, and it's doubtful the current rocket could carry it any further than mainland Japan.

Well, unless you know more than the NSA, which believes that N. Korea has the capability to launch such a missile, don't make stuff up.
Oh, I really didn't mean moron, just uninformed.

 

[TacoMac]

Treason is the exception.

Not true.

Treason is pardonable. There is only one that is not pardonable: Impeachment. The President can not pardon himself from being impeached, nor can his replacement pardon him for his impeachment.

 

[ttystikk]

It will likely be a pre-emptive (surprise) attack by the US. NK probably can't hit the us with a missile at this point unless it's sub launched, and I'm guessing their subs can probably be tracked from port to sea very easily; I'm surprisede they haven't started to go missing at sea.

More likely they would try to hit a military base like guam or a civilian center like Soul. Either of those would make trump wildly popular as he wraps himself in a flag and claims to be defending the world.

We probably know where they keep their toys. The military probably has a pretty good threat assessment and has had plans on the shelf for years. They would hit the bases/labs/launch/command/control sites and try to take out the ability to launch in a first wave. Probably with underground or battlefield level nukes.

The messy part would be ground forces trying to pour over the border.

It just takes a maniac to order one of those plans with tactical nukes to be used.

The only quibble I have with this assessment is the notion that North Korea would be stupid enough to strike first. They'll keep lobbing artillery shells now and again, but they know better than to escalate beyond that.

 

[TacoMac]

Well, unless you know more than the NSA, which believes that N. Korea has the capability to launch such a missile, don't make stuff up.
Oh, I really didn't mean moron, just uninformed.

The NSA has never once said that North Korea can hit the U.S. with a nuclear warhead. Ever. Nobody has. It simply does not exist at this point.

At this point, you're flat out lying.

 

[ttystikk]

LOL!

Panic more.

Fact is, they have at best enough material to make 8. Maybe 10. But they have no rocket to deliver them, not even close. About the farthest they can reach right now is MAYBE mainland Japan, and that would be iffy...and in all likelihood totally inaccurate.

Recent missile tests have proven their ability to reach the US mainland. The only question is whether they have nukes sufficiently miniaturized to fit on the missiles.

 

[ttystikk]

2 weeks ago. strange.

What was 2 weeks ago?

 

[SneekyNinja]

Recent missile tests have proven their ability to reach the US mainland. The only question is whether they have nukes sufficiently miniaturized to fit on the missiles.

Several countries have said publicly that they could have up to 60.

People think North Korea is poor...the people are poor, loads of money for nuclear weapon research.

 

[twostrokenut]

nbc's Brian williams:

"our job is to scare people to death over north korea."

 

[TacoMac]

Recent missile tests have proven their ability to reach the US mainland. The only question is whether they have nukes sufficiently miniaturized to fit on the missiles.

No, it hasn't.

For God's sake, people...read the articles. Here it is:

How close are they?
Michael Hayden, the director of the CIA from 2006 to 2009, believes that should Pyongyang continue at its current pace, the country could develop an indigenous missile that can reach Seattle and carry a North Korean-built nuclear warhead before the end of Trump's first term.

So far, North Korea experts believe the regime has not developed the operational capability to deliver a missile beyond Asia.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/29/asia/north-korea-missile-tests/index.html

 

[londonfog]

First off, as far as Mannafort is concerned, his taking money from Russians isn't a crime. It was a legitimate payment for his services. The crime isn't the money. The crime is collusion. They would have to prove that Russia paid him the money for the sole purpose of colluding with them against the Clinton campaign rather than a legitimate counseling service.

That is going to be an impossible burden to prove as both are word of mouth and only the particulars are privy to that information.

About the worst they can get him for at this point is obstruction and even that is a reach. Trump will give him a full pardon for it, he'll be out his legal fees (which will no doubt be substantial) but that's about it.

please no more typing. Your stupid is stupid

 

[Jimdamick]

The NSA has never once said that North Korea can hit the U.S. with a nuclear warhead. Ever. Nobody has. It simply does not exist at this point.

At this point, you're flat out lying.

North Korea has successfully produced a miniaturized nuclear warhead that can fit inside its missiles, according to a confidential July assessment from the Defense Intelligence Agency, The Washington Postreports. The Japanese Ministry of Defense also believes North Korea has achieved miniaturization. It is unclear whether North Korea has tested the miniaturized weapon.

 

[londonfog]

nbc's Brian williams:

"our job is to scare people to death over north korea."

Im more afraid of how Trump will handle NK

 

[QtrNdaPuss]

You think you keep money you made by ill-gotten means ? They about to take money and property. You don't issue a fucking FBI search warrant without probable cause. Stay tune

they issued the search warrants for the documents he already gave congress . you can actually go read all about it on google. instead of adding extra shit that isn't based on anything.

 

[TacoMac]

please no more typing. Your stupid is stupid

Then prove me wrong.

You people are truly ignorant. In order to sue someone in civil court you have to have standing. If you don't, you can't sue. It's that simple.

So tell me, bright boy, how is he going to lose all his money in civil court? Who is going to sue him and for what damages?

I can't wait to hear this.

 

[greg nr]

You don't issue a fucking FBI search warrant without probable cause.

I don't care who you are or where you stand on issues, but that right there is FUNNY!

 

[londonfog]

they issued the search warrants for the documents he already gave congress . you can actually go read all about it on google. instead of adding extra shit that isn't based on anything.

Do tell what the documents were or STFU...Thanks

 

[ttystikk]

Pre-emtive strikes don't work unless you reliably destroy ALL enemy launch sites in the first strike.

Even then, they'll probably just launch as soon as we do because it's nearly impossible to hide a large scale ICBM launch.

North Korea does not have DEW or BMEWS system. They also can't see stealth aircraft.

The scenarios would involve cutting communications from command and control first, then striking their missile forces and other targets.

However, none of these scenarios can rule out enormous loss of life south of the 38th parallel, which is why no one has tried it.

North Korea knows all this and has always stopped short of the kind of provocation that would trigger such a response.

Their nuclear capability is strictly deterrent in nature; that's its purpose and its mission. The day they use it is the day we- or China- turn North Korea into a sea of molten radioactive glass.

 

[londonfog]

Then prove me wrong.

You people are truly ignorant. In order to sue someone in civil court you have to have standing. If you don't, you can't sue. It's that simple.

So tell me, bright boy, how is he going to lose all his money in civil court? Who is going to sue him and for what damages?

I can't wait to hear this.

Prove me wrong.
FBI coming to your door is not a good think and instead of Mannafort bitching about being raided he puts out a statement saying he is cooperating. FBI come to my door and raid me I'm filing a complaint and a law suit....but of course I would have not done anything fucking wrong,

 

[Jimdamick]

No, it hasn't.

For God's sake, people...read the articles. Here it is:



http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/29/asia/north-korea-missile-tests/index.html

Your quoting a statement made by someone who hasn't been in the CIA for over 7 years, while N Korea SUCCESSFULLY launched an ICBM last week.
Why do you insist that there is no threat?