one light one plant one pound....

ttystikk

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Yeah I just have to get them to live first lol. I've definitely ran into my share of problems lately I should of taken action sooner
Live and learn, and your backup plan is looking pretty good! One plant will only take a few extra days to fill in the screen.
 
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horribleherk

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Lube and learn, and your backup plan is looking pretty good! One plant will only take a few extra days to fill in the screen.
thanks ttystikk you don't develop any skills when all goes well it's when things go haywire you've got make decisions & figure things out & you learn to appreciate the people you rub elbows with around here
 

horribleherk

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the pics don't show it but on the rt. Plant limbs that were drooping downward are now slanted up this is definitely a time whereas patience is a virtue lol... for the first time in awhile I'm feeling I might just pull this off at first I doubted the wisdom of changing horses in mid stream but they probably would not of recovered in dwc I think the move to tupur saved this grow I went through & removed a lot of the damaged growth the super sour'diesel was last to get sick but is showing a little progress as well the new top growth is nice so I've managed to save my genetics IMG_2347.JPG IMG_2344.JPGIMG_2345.JPG IMG_2346.JPG
 

horribleherk

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things are about the same today is the 6th. day & im hoping to see some real improvement soon as at some point I'm gonna have to decide on possibly pulling these & starting over if they won't turn around IMG_2358.JPGIMG_2359.JPG IMG_2360.JPG
 

disbeverk

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Root rot is a MFer if you can't keep your res temps in check. Basically have to run a chiller... which is a compressor... which kills and gains had from aero/dwc/etc... IMO of course. Been through it, almost the same scenario w/ stinkbud aero -> root rot -> coco.

All that growth is donezo, won't recover until all new branches and leaves grow out, and even then it takes time to recover before they're pumping out healthy mature growth. You've got a ways to go before those are in full blown healthy veg. It'll take months.
 

horribleherk

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That's why I hated DWC. Only when I chilled and circulated the water did I get solid results. Other people are just luckier than me, I guess lol
It has been problematic for me I think tupur is the direction I'm going I did a lot better with my e&f coco I know people get astonishing results & either they're lucky or have chillers & a perfect environment I have a fascination with dwc but it has a habit of biting me in the ass lol....thanks for the input ttystikk
 
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horribleherk

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Root rot is a MFer if you can't keep your res temps in check. Basically have to run a chiller... which is a compressor... which kills and gains had from aero/dwc/etc... IMO of course. Been through it, almost the same scenario w/ stinkbud aero -> root rot -> coco.

All that growth is donezo, won't recover until all new branches and leaves grow out, and even then it takes time to recover before they're pumping out healthy mature growth. You've got a ways to go before those are in full blown healthy veg. It'll take months.
that's why I'm considering just cutting my losses & starting over at best the plant on the left might pull through but as you've said it could take months I know once you miss the boat they might never produce a fresh start just might be the answer your advice is appreciated
 

ttystikk

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Root rot is a MFer if you can't keep your res temps in check. Basically have to run a chiller... which is a compressor... which kills and gains had from aero/dwc/etc... IMO of course. Been through it, almost the same scenario w/ stinkbud aero -> root rot -> coco.

All that growth is donezo, won't recover until all new branches and leaves grow out, and even then it takes time to recover before they're pumping out healthy mature growth. You've got a ways to go before those are in full blown healthy veg. It'll take months.
If running a chiller offsets the gains from RDWC then you're doing it wrong.

Not months. Weeks. Unless the roots don't recover.
 

disbeverk

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that's why I'm considering just cutting my losses & starting over at best the plant on the left might pull through but as you've said it could take months I know once you miss the boat they might never produce a fresh start just might be the answer your advice is appreciated
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I battled through root rot in aero... but when it was good, have never seen such healthy plants or vigorous growth. However when it got hot, and I couldn't control res temps, the rot set in and I abandoned ship to soil with sick plants, then uppotted to cloud coir (50/50 coco/perlite), and it took MONTHS to recover.
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The 3rd pic above is 76 days after the 1st one.

Point of the story is... save 1 or 2 to nurse back to health and take cuttings of. Pop a pack of seeds in the meantime. Good luck #growerslove
 

ttystikk

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I battled through root rot in aero... but when it was good, have never seen such healthy plants or vigorous growth. However when it got hot, and I couldn't control res temps, the rot set in and I abandoned ship to soil with sick plants, then uppotted to cloud coir (50/50 coco/perlite), and it took MONTHS to recover.
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The 3rd pic above is 76 days after the 1st one.

Point of the story is... save 1 or 2 to nurse back to health and take cuttings of. Pop a pack of seeds in the meantime. Good luck #growerslove
Sound advice. Trying to recover plants gone bad is tough and just taking fresh cuttings can be faster.
 

disbeverk

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If running a chiller offsets the gains from RDWC then you're doing it wrong.

Not months. Weeks. Unless the roots don't recover.
I just wouldn't want to lead him to bank on these recovering quickly, and missing a harvest. When he should be popping seeds now. They'll be ready sooner.

Re: Practicality of a chiller... I'm only running a single 4x10 flower room + 4x6 of veg. Any chiller (compressor) worth turning on is 1kw... I rarely run that much in light. I'm not going to double my output by running aero w/ a chiller.
 

ttystikk

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I just wouldn't want to lead him to bank on these recovering quickly, and missing a harvest. When he should be popping seeds now. They'll be ready sooner.

Re: Practicality of a chiller... I'm only running a single 4x10 flower room + 4x6 of veg. Any chiller (compressor) worth turning on is 1kw... I rarely run that much in light. I'm not going to double my output by running aero w/ a chiller.
Small chiller can work. Big one runs only part time. Or do double duty, it can manage environmental control as well.
 

disbeverk

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Sound advice. Trying to recover plants gone bad is tough and just taking fresh cuttings can be faster.
I'd wait for the plants to recover before taking cuttings. You want them to process through the stress they're currently under, so hopefully those response hormones don't exist in the cutting you take.

SIDENOTE: I love and respect all of your work. Thank you for the vertical goodness :clap:
 

horribleherk

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I'd wait for the plants to recover before taking cuttings. You want them to process through the stress they're currently under, so hopefully those response hormones don't exist in the cutting you take.

SIDENOTE: I love and respect all of your work. Thank you for the vertical goodness :clap:
I've got clones rooted @ 9 days & 2 sources of clones 1/2 mile from the house I started fresh in the other tent with doubledream 6 days ago it's showing no negative signs but it wasn't sick like the others but the blackjacks are the ones I'm concerned about IMG_2356.JPG
 
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