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Growdict

Growdict

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ya, i do the same, count 0 from flip 12/12. way easier to know when flowering is going to finish. Instead of trying to say- Plant A has 11 days from flip until buds show,then 48 days to finish. just 59 days from flip. I have noticed clones of the same plant finish faster than the original from seed, even if it had a decent 6-8 weeks of veg time. But once you have run the clone to flower a few times, it is pretty much same to finish every time.
I use a 10 week or 70 day rule. any clone that cant finish under that, i dont keep no matter how good.
 
GroErr

GroErr

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Growdict said:
ya, i do the same, count 0 from flip 12/12. way easier to know when flowering is going to finish. Instead of trying to say- Plant A has 11 days from flip until buds show,then 48 days to finish. just 59 days from flip. I have noticed clones of the same plant finish faster than the original from seed, even if it had a decent 6-8 weeks of veg time. But once you have run the clone to flower a few times, it is pretty much same to finish every time.
I use a 10 week or 70 day rule. any clone that cant finish under that, i dont keep no matter how good.
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Yeah makes more sense and keeps it simple for sure. I typically have an 8 week rule, but rules are meant to be broken, made an exception for the Panama at 10 1/2 weeks, glad I did :eyesmoke: Agree on the clone thing, I've noticed the same thing.
 
hillbill

hillbill

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Counting from flip is the only way we know just what we're talking about as I may not see pistils as soon as GroErr or Mohican or whoever. Many will show pistils in veg. Counting from 12/12 produces a firm starting point for discussion.

Although I have chosen led cob route that 315 has always looked special. Seeing many successful projects with them. I used Mastercolor 250 and400 watt CMH years ago. Over three years leds only and mostly COBs now.

I still hate blurple! Hps yellow is creepy too.
 
GroErr

GroErr

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hillbill said:
Counting from flip is the only way we know just what we're talking about as I may not see pistils as soon as GroErr or Mohican or whoever. Many will show pistils in veg. Counting from 12/12 produces a firm starting point for discussion.

Although I have chosen led cob route that 315 has always looked special. Seeing many successful projects with them. I used Mastercolor 250 and400 watt CMH years ago. Over three years leds only and mostly COBs now.

I still hate blurple! Hps yellow is creepy too.
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Yeah those 315's grew some nice bud for me. Here's a shot from probably the 2nd or 3rd run with the CMH LEC's. Will figure out a way to fit a run in with at least one 315 through the winter for old time's sake. I can't do a true side by side as that would take 8 clones of the same strain but I can fit a control clones under each tech and see how they compare.

Almost done with blurples, have one veg panel left in my clone tent and it'll be replaced by Citi COBs when it finally dies, impressed with those Citi's in veg & flower.

2x 315w Sun Systems over a 3.5x6.5', Day 20, 2014 retro grow :weed:

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Cheers :bigjoint:
 
natureboygrower

natureboygrower

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hey GroErr,quick question,sorry to muck up your thread.if i have a grow cab with veg down bottom flower up top,could i use one fan to vent? guess it would result in the flower side being vented for 6 hours with lights out or do you guys run evac fans 24/7(im assuming this is dependent on temps?)
 
GroErr

GroErr

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natureboygrower said:
hey GroErr,quick question,sorry to muck up your thread.if i have a grow cab with veg down bottom flower up top,could i use one fan to vent? guess it would result in the flower side being vented for 6 hours with lights out or do you guys run evac fans 24/7(im assuming this is dependent on temps?)
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Hey no problem, if you mean exhausting yeah that should be fine. There's a lot of ways to do it, I don't run sealed so I run my exhaust, incoming fresh air inline's, and oscillating fans 24/7. I think the constant air exchange is beneficial unless you're running sealed with CO2.
 
natureboygrower

natureboygrower

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ok cool,thatll save me some money.reluctantly starting an indoor lol,trying to figure out what i need.think i'll just grab a bigger sized fan to cover my area.i plan on the incoming air being supplied by the house(not from outside) is this ok?
 
GroErr

GroErr

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natureboygrower said:
ok cool,thatll save me some money.reluctantly starting an indoor lol,trying to figure out what i need.think i'll just grab a bigger sized fan to cover my area.i plan on the incoming air being supplied by the house(not from outside) is this ok?
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Yeah one single inline should be fine in there. My fresh air comes in from the house, I tied a new vent into my main plenum and hooked the inline into that. My grow is in the basement so I get fresh filtered air from the HVAC summer (AC) or winter (heat), has always worked well for me.
 
natureboygrower

natureboygrower

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GroErr said:
Yeah one single inline should be fine in there. My fresh air comes in from the house, I tied a new vent into my main plenum and hooked the inline into that. My grow is in the basement so I get fresh filtered air from the HVAC summer (AC) or winter (heat), has always worked well for me.
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my house is less than 10years old(stick built) and its pretty tight.this new grow room will act like an air exchange with all this air movement,which im all for! hadnt thought about that happening but definitely will be an added bonus.thank you for the advice.
 
GroErr

GroErr

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natureboygrower said:
my house is less than 10years old(stick built) and its pretty tight.this new grow room will act like an air exchange with all this air movement,which im all for! hadnt thought about that happening but definitely will be an added bonus.thank you for the advice.
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Yeah sounds like my place it's about 15 yrs. old now, I converted my cold room for my flower room. Here's what the vent looks like below. There was enough space above the door header to fit a new vent into the main plenum on the other side of the header. The wall for the flower room was built where that light bulb is in the 1st pic. I have a door coming into the cold room and another going into the flower room. The inline fan shown in the pic is what's now inside the room and sucks air in 24/7. You can see the inline top-right in the second pic in the finished room, threw one of those dryer vents on the end of the inline to prevent back-drafts. Those $5 racks in the ceiling were one of the best things I did, easy to hang shit and keep power bars well away from any water. If you want any ideas, I'd posted the complete build a few years back.

https://www.rollitup.org/t/diy-flower-room-w-pics-from-start-to-finish.833896/

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natureboygrower

natureboygrower

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freakin awesome reference/starting point for me,Cap! thank you! took a quick glance at your diy flower room thread and its already given me some good ideas.the racks on the ceiling are genius,im looking for those.i havent researched fans yet,are they variable speed? im thinking of just oversizing and grabbing an 8".that research is on my to do list,though.the total space is 8'hx7'lx2' wide.very,very narrow
 
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GroErr

GroErr

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natureboygrower said:
freakin awesome reference/starting point for me,Cap! thank you! took a quick glance at your diy flower room thread and its already given me some good ideas.the racks on the ceiling are genius,im looking for those.i havent researched fans yet,are they variable speed? im thinking of just oversizing and grabbing an 8".that research is on my to do list,though.the total space is 8'hx7'lx2' wide.very,very narrow
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Cheers, was worth the efforts, it's pretty well maintenance free other than cleaning it. I found those racks at either Home Depot or Lowes and they were cheap. Just screwed them to the beams with off-the-shelf steel clips, cheap, easy and practical. I'd recommend the variable speed controller and oversized inline on both exhaust and incoming, then you can literally "dial" your room in. I have them on both, have replaced only one exhaust inline, they pull harder through the filters and wear out faster.

That's enough space to grow some nice plants, a little difficult to get to the back but you'll manage, a long wand for some extra reach and you're good. Mine's only 4'x9.5'x7.5'H usable space is about 3.5x8' if I pack them in there. Just try and keep your floor space clear to about 4ft. high and you'll maximize your grow space. Good luck, it's fun building and you can customize little things to make your grow time more productive.
 
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