Vert(600+400) 5 plant, from Ukraine with love

[ttystikk]

I love LED, I know you use it with great results but idiots think their $2.50 Chinese blurple panel led will replace a HID is just plain wrong. They have to be jumped on so they stop spreading misinformation.

 

[Lucky Luke]

I really don't know what fuck are you talking about

Dont watch the news, read a paper?

 

[ttystikk]

Dont watch the news, read a paper?

He's a Cali dude, brah- ain't got time for any of that.

 

[ChaeWwice]

Hey, which part of, 'he lives in a warzone on the other side of the planet, comma, stupid' do you not understand?

You are unbelievably obtuse, you know that?

Go fall off your boogie board or something.

what the fuck are you talking about

 

[CCCmints]

Not if you have to use a 2000w heater to heat the grow space.

And c'mon a decent led for $60? Your on drugs man. A pre built cob to replace a 600 hid in a 4 x 4 is going to cost around a grand.

I can replace a 1000w HPS for less than $800 with LED.

 

[Lucky Luke]

I can replace a 1000w HPS for less than $800 with LED.

built yourself or bought? Would it cover the same area or would you need two?

Either way $800 is a far cry from $60 and is close to "around a grand"

 

[Lucky Luke]

what the fuck are you talking about

The OP is in the Ukraine (its even in the title)..Grows Massive buds. Has initiative and smarts. And does really well expressing himself on an English language forum.

 

[ttystikk]

I can replace a 1000w HPS for less than $800 with LED.

@Sedan said he's getting his 400W and 600W HPS lamps from a greenhouse that I gather went bankrupt. He uses one of each in the silo and pulls some amazing numbers.

He's also an engineer (civil?) who isn't working because of the ongoing conflict wrecking the economy in his country.

I have nothing but the utmost respect for his ingenuity and perseverance in the face of incredibly adverse circumstances- on the barest of shoestring budgets and all this with an amazingly positive attitude.

 

[ttystikk]

The OP is in the Ukraine (its even in the title)..

Don't feed the troll. He's already proven that he'd lose a battle of wits with a box of rocks.

 

[Lucky Luke]

@Sedan said he's getting his 400W and 600W HPS lamps from a greenhouse that I gather went bankrupt. He uses one of each in the silo and pulls some amazing numbers.

He's also an engineer (civil?) who isn't working because of the ongoing conflict wrecking the economy in his country.

I have nothing but the utmost respect for his ingenuity and perseverance in the face of incredibly adverse circumstances- on the barest of shoestring budgets and all this with an amazingly positive attitude.

and he has a cute pussy to pat..

 

[ttystikk]

and he has a cute pussy to pat..

We should all be so fortunate...

 

[CCCmints]

built yourself or bought? Would it cover the same area or would you need two?

Either way $800 is a far cry from $60 and is close to "around a grand"

Built myself, 9 COBs, could cover a 4'x4' area. I just haven't done the math for matching a 600w HPS. It would be much cheaper than $800 though. $60 is ludicrous.

 

[Lucky Luke]

Built myself, 9 COBs, could cover a 4'x4' area. I just haven't done the math for matching a 600w HPS. It would be much cheaper than $800 though. $60 is ludicrous.

so that about makes my post about a prefabbed unit about a grand then about right...

and yea,$60 is ludicrouse

 

[CCCmints]

so that about makes my post about a prefabbed unit about a grand then about right...

and yea,$60 is ludicrouse

I overlooked the "pre-built" part of your post, my bad. Yeah about a grand. I personally wouldn't purchase pre-built units just yet. Too much savings from building it yourself.

 

[ANC]

I described in great detail why the LED can not get such a crop in principle. There are not yet invented lamps that will shine 360 degrees, like sodium ...

In stead of using 1000W HPS, one can use four 250W Bars with COBs in the center. In a north south west east formation.

 

[ttystikk]

In stead of using 1000W HPS, one can use four 250W Bars with COBs in the center. In a north south west east formation.

This doesn't improve the space efficiency equation. A flat panel does.

 

[ANC]

I don't see why not, everything stays the same, it's just the light source that changes from a point source to four "beams"
The efficiency of this system is mostly gained from the reflective tent being right behind the plants.

 

[ttystikk]

I don't see why not, everything stays the same, it's just the light source that changes from a point source to four "beams"
The efficiency of this system is mostly gained from the reflective tent being right behind the plants.

It's still a tight fit to work on the plants.

 

[ANC]

Yep, you will need to use the version of the tube that opens up like a book on castor wheels as I suggested previously.

 

[ttystikk]

Yep, you will need to use the version of the tube that opens up like a book on castor wheels as I suggested previously.

So why not just have it flat? More room to work on the plants, no pie wedge effect, fits in square rooms better...

In other words, what problem does the round silo solve, once you aren't using a 360 degree light source? Having done this for years, my answer to that question was 'none'. The only reason for the round silo was the nature of the light emission from the lamp. Once I switched to directional LED lighting the reason to keep that shape went away.