Photo of cannabinoid distillation temp and pressure

eugeneoregon

Active Member
This photo is after first fraction was taken and disposed of. The odor of first terpene fraction invokes a gag response and it gets flushed. The clean bulb shows condensation. Head thermometer reads 139C. Heating mantle is set for 180C which is the heat under the boiling flask. First condensate in bulb appeared at 132C thermometer and 170C mantle temp. On right is a prism set up in periscope mode and in it is seen the thermometer over the boiling puddle as seen if looking straight down.

Vacuum Sensor is a Pirani style sensor approximately 20 inches from the thermometer over the puddle. Stainless steel bellows from vacuum pump up to sensor is 33" in length. The sensor is placed 8" coupling of stainless steel to glass and represents the closest possible point of measurement.

Total polymer hose in system is about an inch for the coupling of stainless steel to glass. Vacuum is read as .00075 Torr (mm Hg) and is also stated as ¾ micron.


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eugeneoregon

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Does each bulb catch a slightly different fraction of THC?
The bulbs are stacked for convenience so I can remove one at a time as I collect fractions. Generally each bulb will represent a different composition of the compound. This sort of short path device is not a fractioning distillation apparatus. The shorter the path the less fractioning capability you have.

The protocol therefor is to fraction the product by multiple passes through the rig. A fractioning device when it comes down to it simply adds theoretical "plates" to any given distillation which emulates (sort of) in one run the effect of multiple runs through a distillation. Like anything else in seperations like this it is not an on or off thing. A little bit of everything in a boiling flask is likely to distill over so with a rig like this keeping the temperature as low as possible is crucial to decent seperation. Since the large percent of each fraction is cannabinoid along with a tiny amount of contamination, multiple runs progressively fraction the compound toward purity. So far with my current protocol it takes at least three passes through the rig to produce a pale yellow jelly like product that is remarkably clear and pristine.

The real test and frankly my HUGE advantage over a commercial lab is my method of testing. I vape directly from the product and judge flavor, respiratory irritation, smell (I sneeze a lot when I vape terp heavy extract), time to onset of effect, intensity of effect, and pain relief on a scale of "it works" to "it does not work'". I endure severe nerve damage known as symetrical axonal sensorimotor polyneuropathy with severe restleg leg component. I therefor have immediate feedback regarding effectiveness.

A commercial lab can tell me none of this. A commercial lab can only use machines to attempt to paint a mathematical portrait of the drug in a way that a person can guess at the answers that I do not have to guess at. In other words, a commercial lab cannot do what is at the core of scientific discovery - they cannot test the product through direct observation/experience. I can. The numbers as a percentage on the dispensary packets I obtain tell me almost nothing of real value unless bragging rights about a number is useful. Maybe it is, but consider that I also perform a litany of chromatography seperations as well. This means that I can see the sheer number of compounds contianed in a packet of dispensary extract. I have heard as many as 40 cannabinoids in various amounts could be present, and the number of other compounds is generally unknown.

When I see during a chromatography run the myriad number of differently colored fractions move through the column it becomes obvious that the three or four numbers shown on a packet of extract is fairly well meaningless to me. It just means that somebody convinced lawmakers to hogtie the industry to professional labs in order to remain legal. This has zero to do wih actual human safety and has but limited usefulness to the consumer. Marijuanna and its extracts are documented to have been used since Erik The Healer of Rome (Father of modern medical protocol). In all that time history has not documented a single case of death or damage to human flesh from exposure of any intensity to marijuanna or its products. The labs being mandated now as we creep out of a horrific prohibition period for mankind are put into place by the government as a means to track and tax. Billions of humans consume untold tonnes of marijuanna that has never been tested by a lab and humanity seems just fine without them lolz, but for now we are stuck wih paying big dollars for a machine to try to tell us a fraction of what we will learn just by taking a hit.
 

Jaybodankly

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You seem to have a unique set-up. The amount of thought and care in setting up such a rig is commendable. Industry is driven by economics. Health care and prisons dont farewell when making money is the main priority. You are like a Cannabis Heisenberg accepting only the finest purity. thanks for sharing your work.
 

eugeneoregon

Active Member
You seem to have a unique set-up. The amount of thought and care in setting up such a rig is commendable. Industry is driven by economics. Health care and prisons dont farewell when making money is the main priority. You are like a Cannabis Heisenberg accepting only the finest purity. thanks for sharing your work.
A very kind post. Thank you.

Four years ago or so I really did not care too much about the purity of this medicine. Then, one night after noticing a deer and attempting to avoid it while riding my sweet baby Harley Softail Deluxe, I had the opportunity to directly observe the effects of a human body bouncing off the pavement at 50 mph on a first hand basis. Luckily one of my lungs and 67% of my skeletal structure remianed intact. You will be relieved to hear that the bike was only slightly bent. Go Harley!!!

After a lengthy stay in the hospital and then wheelchair bound, I discovered that the meds they prescribed to help me cope with the new reality were not potent enough. I also discovered that at high routine doses throughout the day that I quickly developed a dabbers hack.

So while still in wheelchair I started using rubbing alcohol to do a crude seperation of the alpha pinene, after I noticed something very odd (at the time) about rubbing alcohol - I noticed that when I splashed a few teaspoons of rubbing alcohol onto my extract (in a ceramic dish) and lit it on fire (wheelchairs induce intense boredom) that a white milky residue was created that was not at all sticky and was nearly all water but white. I realized that in some fashion a contaminate had been seperated. After I vaped the slightly cleaned up extract and noticed a huge swing towards the comfort side, both in effectiveness and reduced respiratory irritation, I knew this was a lead I had to follow up on. This was long before anyone really had posted much of anything on the internet about seperations of canabis extract. There was more misinformation by far than reliable data which is still largely true but reliable data is similar to truth - eventually it works its way out into the open. This is my sole goal in posting stuff I do.

I have long since started walking again and recently just got off even my forearm crutches and use just a staff now for balance and I had a nice long pain free swim yesterday. I am 100% free of prescription drugs (down from 7 before) and I once again for now am loving life in a profond new way. Once you get broken up badly, it seems all the sweeter to be just ok, hehe. They say that necessity is the mother of invention. I think they are right lolz!
 

dabbindylan

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Try adding subzero cold trap on your system EO. Put as last point from your vacuum an save your terps for further study. They are very beneficial if separated and used properly. Also the coldtrap will help in your goal for a purer product. Best wishs! Fuck that deer.
 

thump easy

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Very smart man if you ever figure out how to recover terps easer than slabing the consentrate in vac oven and catching terps in the cold trap please let us know?
 
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