Mark Blyth, the economist who's making sense

[Gquebed]

Google sez; "The Earth is 123 billion acres in size, of which 37 billion acres are land. This means that there are a notional four acres available for every man, woman and child in the predicted 2050 world population 0f nine billion, which would be an increase of two billion on the present population." So there's some elbow room yet.

We are blessed with lots of acreage in garden spots like Nevada and Wyoming. Some of best places them are offshore. Turbines are getting much more reliable and robust. In fact, FP&L said the turbines in the path of Irma were undamaged.

Google also sez, "An average 1.5-MW turbine (26.9% capacity factor) would produce the same amount of electric energy as that used by almost 332 households over a year. It must be remembered, though, that wind power is intermittent and variable, so a wind turbine produces power at or above its annual average rate only 40% of the time."

That means your notional figure of 2 acres per household is extremely conservative, since even big turbines don't need 150 acres each.

Ya...but...
... we need some acreage to grow food on too, right?

And that might become a bigger problem.

 

[ttystikk]

Ya...but...
... we need some acreage to grow food on too, right?

And that might become a bigger problem.

The Dutch have been running wind power right over farmland for centuries now. Not a problem.

Solar can do double duty; not only can it provide power to the homes it's on the roofs of, but it will shade that home and reduce the need for AC.

And I'm glad you mentioned food! I happen to spend a lot of time on a website where we sit around and share ways to improve food production in small spaces... LOL

Indoor gardening is 40 to 100 times as productive as outdoor farmland on an annualized basis. Those same wind power using Dutch are world leaders at indoor food production, producing far more than their tiny, densely populated country needs- so they export it throughout Europe and beyond.

Food and energy are problems we can solve, especially if we stop letting short sighted industrial elitist warmongering oligarchs run our government!

 

[Gquebed]

The Dutch have been running wind power right over farmland for centuries now. Not a problem.

Solar can do double duty; not only can it provide power to the homes it's on the roofs of, but it will shade that home and reduce the need for AC.

And I'm glad you mentioned food! I happen to spend a lot of time on a website where we sit around and share ways to improve food production in small spaces... LOL

Indoor gardening is 40 to 100 times as productive as outdoor farmland on an annualized basis. Those same wind power using Dutch are world leaders at indoor food production, producing far more than their tiny, densely populated country needs- so they export it throughout Europe and beyond.

Food and energy are problems we can solve, especially if we stop letting short sighted industrial elitist warmongering oligarchs run our government!

And there is the key. Just take the military dollars alone and thats a lot of problem solving cash flow...

...or a lot fn cob lights....lol

 

[ttystikk]

And there is the key. Just take the military dollars alone and thats a lot of problem solving cash flow...

...or a lot fn cob lights....lol

We need to put the people who profit from war machines in jail, because they are far more dangerous than anyone currently in one.

 

[Fogdog]

We need to put the people who profit from war machines in jail, because they are far more dangerous than anyone currently in one.

Don't they have to break laws and be convicted first?

 

[ttystikk]

Don't they have to break laws and be convicted first?

Is this meant to be a joke or do you actually stay up late at night, thinking of ways to be annoyingly obtuse?

 

[Fogdog]

The Dutch have been running wind power right over farmland for centuries now. Not a problem.

Solar can do double duty; not only can it provide power to the homes it's on the roofs of, but it will shade that home and reduce the need for AC.

And I'm glad you mentioned food! I happen to spend a lot of time on a website where we sit around and share ways to improve food production in small spaces... LOL

Indoor gardening is 40 to 100 times as productive as outdoor farmland on an annualized basis. Those same wind power using Dutch are world leaders at indoor food production, producing far more than their tiny, densely populated country needs- so they export it throughout Europe and beyond.

Food and energy are problems we can solve, especially if we stop letting short sighted industrial elitist warmongering oligarchs run our government!

This keeps coming up on this site. Yeah, some food crops are amenable to indoor growing. What about wheat, rice and other cereal crops? Isn't it more efficient to use the sun rather than use sustainable energy including sunlight to make electricity for indoor lights? Is indoor the reason why you can grow in small spaces or can the practices used indoor be taken outdoors in order to take advantage of the big outdoor light in the sky?

 

[Fogdog]

Is this meant to be a joke or do you actually stay up late at night, thinking of ways to be annoyingly obtuse?

your post deserved that. Really? We should just jail all arms dealers!!!!!

Stop saying stupid things and I'll stop having fun at your expense for saying them. Otherwise, deal with it sucker.

 

[ttystikk]

your post deserved that. Really? We should just jail all arms dealers!!!!!

Stop saying stupid things and I'll stop having fun at your expense for saying them. Otherwise, deal with it sucker.

Real Justice would have us lock up the warmongers.

Sometimes it's important to keep some real truth in mind.

People like you might get confused... Oh. To late.

 

[Fogdog]

Real Justice would have us lock up the warmongers.

Sometimes it's important to keep some real truth in mind.

People like you might get confused... Oh. To late.

Oh yeah. We want a justice system that runs on the whim of the people in charge. That would be great.

I'm so confused.

 

[ttystikk]

Oh yeah. We want a justice system that runs on the whim of the people in charge. That would be great.

I'm so confused.

Derp.

 

[ttystikk]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2017-09-12/why-american-workers-pay-twice-as-much-in-taxes-as-wealthy-investors?utm_source=nextdraft&utm_medium=email

Why should investors pay half the taxes (or less) as people who earn a wage?

Do we really want an aristocratic class in America?

Will it help our nation succeed?

Will it make for a better country for all of its citizens?

 

[ttystikk]

Third Way, New Democrats, Politico and the job killers;

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2017/09/bill-black-politico-third-way-divorced-reality.html

 

[SneekyNinja]

As ever, you're an armchair idiot.

You've never seen a solar installation, have you? If you had, you'd see there's an air gap between panels and roof, specifically to allow air under the panels to cool then and aid their performance. Cooler panels run more efficiently and generate more power. How is it cooler under the panel? "Shade", you dumb fuck.

Stick to commenting about stuff you know something about- although I haven't seen anything that applies to yet.

And yet the panels are still attached to the roof so thermal transfer takes place giving a net increase in heat produced.

Not only that, but all the mounting gear is generally unpainted metal which heats up too.

Just stfu, you've probably never used a solar panel beyond a 0.2w consumer electronic piece of shit.

They produce electricity, simples, but stop with the bullshit claims like they cool your house.

 

[ttystikk]

Lol, I've probably forgotten more about those subjects than you'll ever know, idiot.

You should see my electronics workshop, it's fucking glorious (and has 300w worth of solar and about 50Ah worth of batteries, I setup connections for up to 3kw of panels though).

And btw, the air gap reduces thermal transfer, it doesn't prevent it. There's still a net gain but the large surface area of your roof acts like a heat sink.

Less heat gain than just sitting in direct sunlight, stupid.

Indeed, let's see your glorious workshop, Stinkydigit.

 

[Unclebaldrick]

Yeah, but I've met @Unclebaldrick and he's a good guy with a level head. And no thumbs... Lol

I think you guys would get along well over a pint of beer and I know just the place.

I'll take your word for it tty. Might just be a read a post of his without seeing much of the others and reacted in the usual riu manner.

 

[ttystikk]

https://www.buzzfeed.com/bensmith/theres-blood-in-the-water-in-silicon-valley?utm_source=nextdraft&utm_medium=email&utm_term=.kl0mzwggq#.xfl6gbAAq

FINALLY, America's political class is waking up to the rampant monopolism that is at the heart of silicon valley's 'growth through innovation'.

 

[schuylaar]

Possibly. He seems quite bright. Not sure why he is so aggresive with me though... seems to pureposely misunderstand and misinterpret in order to insult...

Although that isnt unusual o this site...lol

he's density squared.

 

[schuylaar]

... Until the Earth spirals into the sun, lol

I'm not counting this as a viable option until there's some kind of evidence it exists.

actually, the moon will eventually drift away..if there is still life here that's how it will end.

 

[Fogdog]

actually, the moon will eventually drift away..if there is still life here that's how it will end.

uhhh, no

eventually the moon will settle into a stable orbit, roughly 50 Billion years from now. Humankind will either be extinct or living among the stars by then. The sun would have become a red dwarf before then and conditions on earth would no longer be suitable for our species. Putting this into perspective, homo sapiens has been around for about 200,000 years. Considering what people have done in that period, a million years is plenty of time for us to figure out space travel.

We have to make it past Trump first, however.