Plant too heavy, branches falling over, pls help!

Snoopy36

Snoopy36

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Hey all! Here's a little background info:

Indoor grow
Strain is GG4
Week 5 flower
Coco mix
20 gallon pots
1000 watt hps bulbs
Have 2 flower rooms and 1 veg room, 20 plants in veg and 10 in each flower room. AC is zoned. Temp is at 74 and humidity 45.

Hope I'm not missing anything... the problem I'm having is with the tops being too heavy and starting to fall over. I use both yoyos and metal bamboos to stake and it doesnt seem like it's enough because they're starting to fall over in week 5. A lot of stems just broke and are hanging by a string. This plant looked absolutely perfect yesterday! This happened in one day. Is there a way I can save it or is this plant done for?? The others seem like they are starting to fall over too but I managed to stake them in hopes of preventing the same issue!! Please help, what can I do? I posted pix to show my setup and the way the plant is falling and some pix of how I staked and yoyo'd the others. I feel like it's impossible to yoyo or stake every single stemIMG_3883.JPG IMG_3884.JPG IMG_3885.JPG IMG_3886.JPG IMG_3887.JPG IMG_3888.JPGIMG_3892.JPG IMG_3894.JPG ! Helppp pleaaaase :(
 
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Snoopy36

Snoopy36

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Jypsy Dog said:
TAPE???? Come on. What are you going to do if you ever grow a big plant?
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That's the thing I've grown way bigger plants and haven't had this issue. This one is already about 6-7ft tall and pretty wide in diameter. Tape won't do anything for the branches falling over in the middle. It'll only save the outside branches. No idea how to save it I may have lost it.
 
chemphlegm

chemphlegm

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put a chair or anything stable by each plant and wrap the whole thing up in twine.
put the unruly plants up against a wall behind twine and nail the twine to the wall,
veg less? grow plant sizes you can manage
 
Jypsy Dog

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Snoopy36 said:
That's the thing I've grown way bigger plants and haven't had this issue. This one is already about 6-7ft tall and pretty wide in diameter. Tape won't do anything for the branches falling over in the middle. It'll only save the outside branches. No idea how to save it I may have lost it.
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Really?? Tape/Tie/wire across the stakes in the middle of the plants to give support. This really ain't that hard.
 
Snoopy36

Snoopy36

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Jypsy Dog said:
Really?? Tape/Tie/wire across the stakes in the middle of the plants to give support. This really ain't that hard.
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You can be a tad less jerky and I'd be more willing to hear wtf you're saying. Kay thanks. This is only my 5th run so please don't talk to me like I should already know everything, there's always room to grow (no pun intended) that's why I'm here... right...

I've never seen anyone use tape around the stakes.

(Oh and it's the 5th run after completely burning the first 2 and losing the whole crop.) I'm still learning.
 
Jypsy Dog

Jypsy Dog

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The tape HOLDS THE STRING TO THE STAKES.... STRING NO SLIDE DOWN STEAK. GOOD THING>>>>SIMPLE THING!!! After 5 grows should be able to train a plant to be something YOU can CONTROL.
 
coreywebster

coreywebster

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Set up a spider web of string around your stakes and then tie your middle branches anchoring to two steaks opposite each other or hooks to your spider web. Or drape a scrog net over, one of those massive squared ones that are shit for scrogs but good as support nets.
 
Snoopy36

Snoopy36

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IMG_3916.JPG So today a whole branch looks like it's dying after I tried clipping everything up. I will try the net thing, but do you think I should cut that bad branch off or will it stress the plant too much?? See pic
 
stoned-monkey

stoned-monkey

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I think its all been said as far as supporting. I have also taped and wire tied around the base of branch where it meets the main trunk. could also tie lines from stake to stake so branches and rest or be tied to the wire.
other option cut it and clone it (monster cropping).
perhaps missing something in your grow, calcium or potassium silicate, wind (it does make a difference).
you have a hell of a setup for a new grower.
 
coreywebster

coreywebster

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Yeah I see the branch, keep an eye on it. If it doesn't perk up in a few days its not going to. Then you can cut it off.
Will it cause some stress, yep, do you want dead buds in with you good stuff, nope. Lesser of two evils. :bigjoint:

You sure your watering enough? I have seen it happen myself when I have screwed up. One day too late can make a plant limp and at this stage they don't get that rigidity back in the stems.
 
Snoopy36

Snoopy36

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stoned-monkey said:
I think its all been said as far as supporting. I have also taped and wire tied around the base of branch where it meets the main trunk. could also tie lines from stake to stake so branches and rest or be tied to the wire.
other option cut it and clone it (monster cropping).
perhaps missing something in your grow, calcium or potassium silicate, wind (it does make a difference).
you have a hell of a setup for a new grower.
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Thanks for your help! I have about 7 fans mounted in that room and use silica. For the most part I think this crop has the strongest stems out of all of them, but oddly I haven't had this issue before with them falling over.. it's so frustrating.
 
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