psychedelicdaddi
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The driver to the strip is a push fitting but the driver to the wall needs a cord. I soldered a bus to the hot and a bus to the neutral then soldered a cord to the buses.
Strips or QB?
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Danielson999
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It's almost identical hooking up QB's or hooking up a strip light. You literally just take the (-) wire from your driver and put it into a wago connector, then run a wire from that wago to your first strip. Then from the poke-in connector on the other side of the strip you run a wire (probably only a few inches long) to the next strip. Repeat until you run a wire off your last strip to a wago that is also connected to your other wire (the + side) from the driver.
You do the same thing with QB's. The only thing that's easier is that you'll have less QB's so less wiring to do but it's all basically the same process.
You do the same thing with QB's. The only thing that's easier is that you'll have less QB's so less wiring to do but it's all basically the same process.
Randomblame
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Therefor I recommended you to visit LEDgardeners website. There is a written manual and also a nice video where you can see how-to wire the strips correctly.
This is the link for a QB288 build with Samsung H-Series strips(same diodes, but only 48pcs p. strip).
http://ledgardener.com/samsung-lm561c-build-finishing-touches/
But there are a lot of other manuals, all easy to understand. I do not like to recommend other forums or sites, but here I need to make an exception. Really well made website and lots of useful stuff. Even after many years of LED I have still been able to find some things that I did not know. But I'm not a member of their forum right now.
Below are a few examples I was able to find in a minute... Good example for series and series-parallel connections with out other connectors.
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Randomblame
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It is always worth to look for special offers before you buy. Arrow often make temporary special offers and if you're lucky, like you, you can make a bargain. I wish I had known it, I need 20 2ft. F-series double row strips (144 diodes) for a total of 2880pcs 561c for two 150w and one 100w lamp.there was a sale on arrow this week ,50 $ off the buy of 150$ +
i got 25 2 feet f stripes for 190.90$ -7.6$ for stripe!! instead of 9.6
got 6 packages of 25 free express shipping worldwide
cant believe i find this sale few hoers befor it was over.
also got 6 hlg320h-c2100a for 59$ a pice and some other drivers as well.crazy sale.
thats it ,im done shopping for a while
But would have also taken 40 single row strips ... at the price !!!
But first I have to muck out my workshop, LOL. My cellar is full of scrap, which I have to dispose of.
But could have already taken the strips and put them on the side for later, s ***!
kony brado
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this was my first thought ,to post en emergency thread on riu.
But i realized there is a sale only few hoers befor it was done(it was a sale for a week) because i don't check my mail often.
Next time ill try to post for you all,its a good idea to be registered for arrow, moser, digikey for these invents. i saved 500$ on my perches .
But i realized there is a sale only few hoers befor it was done(it was a sale for a week) because i don't check my mail often.
Next time ill try to post for you all,its a good idea to be registered for arrow, moser, digikey for these invents. i saved 500$ on my perches .
InTheValley
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almost ready to go. Just need the aluminum track, (tuesday), and my grommets. Going to have to hunt for them, they on slow boat from china. prob gettting u channel and angle today to start the frame. alot of work to do. Even if the lights are crap, I can always change the strips.
Got duel timer, so i can set my GrowMau5 Puck, ( WOOT ) and control lights. Got switches to control Kelvin independently. Got meter to use to set my amperage, fans to control heat, Upgrading wire from Strips to 18awg. the track has diffusers, and if they dont do well, i might use Solexx greenhouse panel.
Got duel timer, so i can set my GrowMau5 Puck, ( WOOT ) and control lights. Got switches to control Kelvin independently. Got meter to use to set my amperage, fans to control heat, Upgrading wire from Strips to 18awg. the track has diffusers, and if they dont do well, i might use Solexx greenhouse panel.
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SonsOfAvery
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I'd recommend those TCI lights to anyone. I bought a 5pack of the 3000k strips, and I'll be getting 5 more at 4000k soon. I like the spectrum of the 4000k a bit more.
Building a frame was quite simple, aluminium bar a drill and some screws. And the wiring isn't difficult as long as you understand some basics, I used wagos for simplicity.
psychedelicdaddi
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Do you have the link to these strips?
nachooo
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Beautiful and smart... The only light I think is not improved is Growmau Puck...I use same far red leds... and considering the way your sistem is gonna be...those far red leds should be more dispersed, probably they will work as they are built...but not excel on that...I use 10 watts in 6 leds covering 7 square foots aprox...well distributed, same radiation over the canopy not too much far red spots or lack of far red spots...Anyway superb proyect
nachooo
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The seller says: 72 leds 40-45 lumens per led: 2880 - 3240 lumes-- and they said 15 wats--so---- 192 to 216 lumens /watt????? Sorry...hard to believe...who knows...
psychedelicdaddi
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oh hell yea im using the same ones. They came kinda kinked by the time they arrived in the mail. I had to cut mine down to 6 LED pieces so they would lay flat on the heatsink. Still in parallel after wiring but that was hell to rewire the circuit after cutting it down. I ended up with a few lights. They power nicely at 9v-10v on regular 3/4" u-channel, but at 12v they need heavy channel and a fan. They are very bright. I am satisfied.
This one i made from those lights (i purchased the dual spectrum) draws about 41.4w from the wall @12v for the lights and 4w @12v for the two 120mm fans i fastened to the back.
here's a dark room being lit by one of the two bricks when i was building and testing
the data suggests they get 216lm/w. but that of course would be powered dimly. These seem very very efficient still powered to the recommended 12v.
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nachooo
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And very cheap also!
psychedelicdaddi
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there is actually some leds that get 216lm/w typical. ill dig up the link
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http://www.highpowerleddiode.com/sell-2324434-high-efficiency-3w-warm-white-high-power-led-with-star-pcb-200-220lm-3-w-warm-white-led.html
it was an epistar/bridgelux creation. I would bet that the tech got implemented into a heck of a mass production and we got some unused side item shit. They could have gone into Tv's, hotels, offices, who knows
InTheValley
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Yeah, i head scratched too, but figured, heck, lets see what they are all about. worst comes to worst, i change out the strips, or cob it up, lol..
Should have it rollin by Friday or so.
Hey, i figured, if you have the GrowMau Puck, you cant go wrong. Makes sense using it, and now a proud owner of the GrowMau5 Puck., Speakin of, 5 minutes before lights out, and 5 mins after lights out,? Im using this in a 2x2, couldnt really incorporate the puck into the light itself, so will just mount it back wall posts, mini rig.
InTheValley
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Good stuff psychedelicdaddi, cool to see them running. I got a regulated PS, so i can lower the volts on them, and the meter to dial it in, thanks to BigGreenThumb helping me out tremendously with the ideas on the build. He is rockin it with his strips.
was going to get the full spectrum, but figured to hook on switches bloom/veg, can wait to get it done. Have 4 little sprouts ready to roll, and my modded Mars300 quit on me again, Half of it only works again. so back to 75 watts till this thing is done.
was going to get the full spectrum, but figured to hook on switches bloom/veg, can wait to get it done. Have 4 little sprouts ready to roll, and my modded Mars300 quit on me again, Half of it only works again. so back to 75 watts till this thing is done.
InTheValley
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O, and for anyone looking to do a build, the wagos i got SUCK. I even tinned them, and they were worse. The push-in style, ugg. Im sure they are ok for Core wire, but 18awg, nope, not using them, to hazardish..
nachooo
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For 2x2 it will be ok althought not optimized..., but must be situated in the center to work correctly, this can interfere with your main lamp lighting...if not carefully designed. The best thing about growmau puck is that you can buy it and plug it quickly and is not expensive....before that light, it was other one...that was overprized and with more watts..think it was initially designed for exterior...
I understand that DIY a far red initiator to be perfect adapted to every cultivation situation is not posible sometimes...so the growmau kit does the job and it does not use too much far red wich is good cause a only a little is needed.... If you want an advice...imho far red works better to reduce flowering times than to allow more light hours...let me explain...is better use it for 12/12(14) than for use it in 13/11(13) instead of increase your production with more hours of light...increase your Ppfd and mantain your DLI (production) and reduce flowering time...
Randomblame
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Yeah, the poke-in connectors are for solid core wire. But they have other, better connectors. Works really well with and without tinned wire ends, for instance the 222-series:
http://www.ebay.com/bhp/wago-connectors
Randomblame
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The 45lm/smd5630 are measured at 150mA/0,5w per diode. The seller takes this values from datasheet, but did not mention at which current it was measured.
If they were to run with this current, a strip would run at about 36w. In fact, the LED's only run with ~ 60mA, so you can expect from an LED about 17-20lm.
So about 1300-1450lm per strip depending which spectrum is used ...
But they work!
I once had a 90w trash bin with 60w of these strips and a 30w COB in the lid!
Not overpowering, but result were tasty, Lol!
Ugly like this one below, LOL!
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