Do Small Rootballs Always Mean Small Plant Harvest

[PetFlora]

Do you believe that ONLY big rootballs can produce big plants? Like most old methods, the answer is not 100%.YES

I have grown plants using HPA and have gotten huge, highly efficient rootballs, but the plant size did not match up, at least compared to the relatively small rootballs I have routinely gotten for several years now.

IME, the key is to feed more often (at a lower EC), so that the roots do not need to get big searching for more food. In veg I flood every hour, mid vg-mid flower every 2 hours and during flower every 3 hours

Here's my recent harvest and her tiny rootball grown out of a 3" net pot

Single plant grown under an Amare P3 (300w led)

 

[southernguy99]

It all depends on ones perspective of things, whats big , whats small etc. Do you think those plants are big? because to me those are nothing more then a good size branch that fell off a big plant. so you wouldn't need much more of a root ball then that. Grow a big plant (good Quality plant) and you'll have a root ball to match. different methods different growing styles but I also thing there is more effective a better growing methods then the one you use .

 

[Fractured but whole]

Do you believe that ONLY big rootballs can produce big plants? Like most old methods, the answer is not 100%.YES

I have grown plants using HPA and have gotten huge, highly efficient rootballs, but the plant size did not match up, at least compared to the relatively small rootballs I have routinely gotten for several years now.

IME, the key is to feed more often (at a lower EC), so that the roots do not need to get big searching for more food. In veg I flood every hour, mid vg-mid flower every 2 hours and during flower every 3 hours

Here's my recent harvest and her tiny rootball grown out of a 3" net pot

Single plant grown under an Amare P3 (300w led)

Yuck!!!

 

[Jimdamick]

Root mass has everything to do with plant size, just like penis size has everything to do with a happy wife
Are you in Hydroton, and a flood and drain?
You really don't have to water that often if you are, I would water just once every 6 hours, at the most, because your pebbles and the roots hold a lot of moisture, and it's good to let your roots breath a little.

 

[rkymtnman]

Root mass has everything to do with plant size, just like penis size has everything to do with a happy wife

no wonder my wife hates me! she's been unhappy for 12 years!!! lol.

The saying "big roots, big fruits" is true.

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

i grow in hempy buckets. i've tried 3.5, 5, 10, and 20 gallon containers, 10s seem to be the most efficient. i can easily double the harvest over a 5 gallon container. 20s only seem to give about 20% more than a ten, so theres a big gap of diminishing returns there. but it seems pretty obvious doubling the available size for roots to grow in makes a huge difference up to a certain point

 

[Jimdamick]

no wonder my wife hates me! she's been unhappy for 12 years!!! lol.

The saying "big roots, big fruits" is true.

Get one of these

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

that looks like a stormtroopers catheter rig, so they don't have to go to the restroom in that armor

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

pat. pending it says...wouldn't you have liked to have been the clerk at the patent office the day these guys came in?

 

[PetFlora]

It all depends on ones perspective of things, whats big , whats small etc. Do you think those plants are big? because to me those are nothing more then a good size branch that fell off a big plant. so you wouldn't need much more of a root ball then that. Grow a big plant (good Quality plant) and you'll have a root ball to match. different methods different growing styles but I also thing there is more effective a better growing methods then the one you use .

I did not mention my grow method, which is F & D. I pretest my grow totes so that each flood comes well up the root system

 

[PetFlora]

Yuck!!!

I am using RAW nutrients, which look yucky, but are are from it

 

[PetFlora]

Root mass has everything to do with plant size, just like penis size has everything to do with a happy wife
Are you in Hydroton, and a flood and drain?
You really don't have to water that often if you are, I would water just once every 6 hours, at the most, because your pebbles and the roots hold a lot of moisture, and it's good to let your roots breath a little.

In the picture you will see the 8 x 8 net pot which has polished ornamental stones (easy to clean post harvest, and do not break down like hydroton). I agree that once the root system is established I could cut it back, which I do, but could cut back even more. Thanks

 

[PetFlora]

no wonder my wife hates me! she's been unhappy for 12 years!!! lol.

The saying "big roots, big fruits" is true.

As I mentioned I had huge roots with HPA, but they did not translate into huge plants

 

[PetFlora]

i grow in hempy buckets. i've tried 3.5, 5, 10, and 20 gallon containers, 10s seem to be the most efficient. i can easily double the harvest over a 5 gallon container. 20s only seem to give about 20% more than a ten, so theres a big gap of diminishing returns there. but it seems pretty obvious doubling the available size for roots to grow in makes a huge difference up to a certain point

I might get bigger plants by using a bigger tote, but the roots do not overtake the 3g tote I use now. More importantly, using 5g totes would mean using a lot more nutrient, so for me there is an efficiency factor. The issue with growing bigger plants is tent height combined with F & D requires giving up ~ 20" in height which includes rez and tote height

 

[southernguy99]

well you said you flood every hour, It doesn't take a genius to figure out what your running , and yes there are much better systems then F&D. Also I'm not sure what point your trying to make yes you have a small root ball but you also have a small piss ass plant. if you think you can grow a big plant of that size root ball think again.

 

[PetFlora]

well you said you flood every hour, It doesn't take a genius to figure out what your running , and yes there are much better systems then F&D. Also I'm not sure what point your trying to make yes you have a small root ball but you also have a small piss ass plant. if you think you can grow a big plant of that size root ball think again.

Kinda testy. Please enlighten me as to the systems you think are 'better' for growing indoors with similar height restrictions

 

[rkymtnman]

As I mentioned I had huge roots with HPA, but they did not translate into huge plants

pic #4 looks like your roots are growing in diarrhea. maybe that's why they don't get bigger.

 

[PetFlora]

pic #4 looks like your roots are growing in diarrhea. maybe that's why they don't get bigger.

LOL. NPK RAW nutes are this color

 

[UncleBuck]

Do you believe that ONLY big rootballs can produce big plants? Like most old methods, the answer is not 100%.YES

I have grown plants using HPA and have gotten huge, highly efficient rootballs, but the plant size did not match up, at least compared to the relatively small rootballs I have routinely gotten for several years now.

IME, the key is to feed more often (at a lower EC), so that the roots do not need to get big searching for more food. In veg I flood every hour, mid vg-mid flower every 2 hours and during flower every 3 hours

Here's my recent harvest and her tiny rootball grown out of a 3" net pot

Single plant grown under an Amare P3 (300w led)

looks like fluffy shit mids.

 

[rkymtnman]

LOL. NPK RAW nutes are this color

it's not the color but they look like there is sludge all over them. not healthy looking at all IMO.