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Noinch

Noinch

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typoerror said:
Not actually. I've had plenty star dawg leaning phenos(structure, smell and flavor) that look nothing like the male. The male is actually a terrible, visual representation of star dawg.

What a male looks like has no real value in breeding. It's about what traits that male passes along in it's progeny. You can't know that from looking at it.
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What? what a male looks like has heaps to do with looking for what's passed on, colour, trichome coverage, structure. Otherwise you'd have to breed out every single male plant you get to even have the slightest clue of what traits might carry on. But it's pretty obvious when you have a purple male covered in trichomes that has huge clusters of pollen sacks some of those traits will be passed on, and it's especially useful when comparing the next generation of males as well not just looking for traits passed on in the female plants

Knowing what a female looks like is obviously pretty damn important, a male isn't that much different. Obviously you can have extremely good males that don't look that great but it's the same with females
 
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waterproof808

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typoerror said:
What a male looks like has no real value in breeding. It's about what traits that male passes along in it's progeny. You can't know that from looking at it.
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That makes zero sense. What a female looks like has real value in breeding, why would that not apply to males? A breeder can definitely pick up on genetic markers that help in the decision making process, especially once already familiar with the line.
 
hillbill

hillbill

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Male and female contribute half of the genes in the progeny. What is wrong with someone displaying human curiosity? So just what are the traits of the Stardawg boy? How does one know if a plant is more or less like the Stardawg male or selected female?
 
ahlkemist

ahlkemist

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hillbill said:
Male and female contribute half of the genes in the progeny. What is wrong with someone displaying human curiosity? So just what are the traits of the Stardawg boy? How does one know if a plant is more or less like the Stardawg male or selected female?
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Thank you! @hillbill
I love how the most open minded people are really just self proclaimed and truly closed. I know allot about a little. I will learn until the day I die.

Btw, hillbill THAT'S the exact reason.
 
chemphlegm

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"One of the best OG clones in The World in feminized seed form. We reversed the legit Ghost OG clone back to herself, resulting in Pure Ghost OG and could not be happier with the results. 80 percent of the plants from seed are identical to the clone only mother, literally identical. Done flowering in 10 weeks, good to great yields with loud piney OG terps and extremely potent. Phenotypes of Pure Ghost OG have been testing in the high 20's to 30 percent THC! Ghost OG clone is a Legend, if you can get a hold of the clone only, do it! If not, you need to grab a pack of Pure Ghost OG Fem, one pack is all you need. Enjoy! I know you will."


Owned!!
 
typoerror

typoerror

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The thing y'all are not understanding is the star dawg male that he uses is a horrific expression of star dawg. It actually looks like shitty hemp. It's pretty scraggly and pretty ugly and every single one of you in here that may attempt breeding would throw that male out in a heartbeat.

Looks have nothing to do with it. How many times have you grown a good looking plant that turned out to be not so good? I have grown quite a few like that. Frosty as all get-out, smells amazing. But the high was straight doo-doo butter.

So yes, the correct way to see what traits are passed on from a male or female would be growing out the seeds that it produces. Exactly as was done with the star dawg male he uses.

There's far too many fly-by-night breeders that found a couple frosty females and thought they were going to be the next greatest thing. Haha

Like I said before if you really want to see the male. Do your due diligence, acquire that male and grow it out. Or you can do like I did. Grow out some Greenpoint seeds strains and bring Gu~ some samples to partake on. I got a tour of the breeding/grow facility. I even got to sniff the males pollen. Hah
 
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Noinch

Noinch

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typoerror said:
The thing y'all are not understanding is the star dawg male that he uses is a horrific expression of star dawg. It actually looks like shitty hemp. It's pretty scraggly and pretty ugly and every single one of you in here that may attempt breeding would throw that male out in a heartbeat.

Looks have nothing to do with it. How many times have you grown a good looking plant that turned out to be not so good? I have grown quite a few like that. Frosty as all get-out, smells amazing. But the high was straight doo-doo butter.

So yes, the correct way to see what traits are passed on from a male or female would be growing out the seeds that it produces. Exactly as was done with the star dawg male he uses.

There's far too many fly-by-night breeders that found a couple frosty females and thought they were going to be the next greatest thing. Haha

Like I said before if you really want to see the male. Do your due diligence, acquire that male and grow it out. Or you can do like I did. Grow out some Greenpoint seeds strains and bring Gu~ some samples to partake on. I got a tour of the breeding/grow facility. I even got to sniff the males pollen. Hah
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So just curious if you were looking for a male in a cross of stardawg that had mostly stardawg traits, one male turns up looking identical to the father and one male looks nothing like it you don't think the one that looks identical has more of a chance of being similar?
 
typoerror

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Why would I look for something similar when I could just get the same thing?

As far as male selection goes. I wouldn't be making my decision based on looks.
 
Noinch

Noinch

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typoerror said:
Why would I look for something similar when I could just get the same thing?

As far as male selection goes. I wouldn't be making my decision based on looks.
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That wasn't the question, of course you would do that, that's not what we're talking about

I wouldn't either but not everyone has the ability to breed with 30 different males trying to find the one that resembles the father the most, so the obvious thing to do would breed the one that visually represents it the most. And if one visually represents it perfectly there is defintiely a higher chance of it carrying the same traits of the father since it would have obviously taken some of it's visual and structural traits from it

I really don't see how you could argue that looks are not important at all, nobody's saying they're THAT important or that we wouldn't prefer to be able to breed out thousands of plants to be able to perfectly see what traits are being passed on but I find it utterly bizarre that you don't think it'd be possible at all to have any kind of idea of what traits might be passed on when you have a visual reference of a plant
 
Heisengrow

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I agree..why does gu breed with ileet clones if he wasn't trying to get a good line to work.trying to pick random plants to breed with would be worse than shuffling a deck of cards back into order from scratch.
Having two visually appealing parents would be the best starting point and than test would be made to make sure the male was up to it.
Otherwise a breeder would have several hundred plants to deal with and would have to prevent cross pollen contamination.it would be a huge clusterfuck to deal with multiple males.
Also it was mentioned earlier about the ghost OG S1.
The f1''s from that cross were almost identical to the mother clone.
Taking genetic's from a mom and dad will give about 25 percent will look like mom and 25 percent will be like father.other 50 percent will be mixed of previous generations.
Personally I would only deal with reversed females for one to save space on sexing a bunch of plants.could just gerimate the seeds of all and run the straight from seeds.guaranteed females.
This is my goal for Greenpoint gear.to find at least 5 females and at least one bad ass copper female to reverse and pollinate the rest of the nice females I have in his packs.going to start a new line hopefully with one solid female.would love to find a bad ass female from these crosses I make.
Just a matter of time
 
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AmericanGrower508

AmericanGrower508

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Gu~ said:
Star Dawg (Male) - Greenpoint Seeds




Typo is correct, this male is not a beast compared to others. But he throws the funk in the progeny, and that’s a fact.
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The hell its not GU.. as you know when breeding reg seeds the male has to have certain characters. With chem or Sour D mine start with Stem smell and structure. Which that males has great structure and I can't smell him but I am thinking it smells big time.
If that was a female with the 20 colas would it not be a keeper? yeah thats what I thought.
 
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