Swami Seeds

maxamus1

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Much of his genes come from Clackamas COOT, Mr Greengenes, BEL Members, and yes, they ARE the real deal of what they say they are. Some people got mad at Swami because he upped the production, and started making money off of it, of which I could care less what he does. As long as he supplies killer genetics, and they are what they say they are, I don't care what he does.

Anyone giving these genetics away ect ??? Let me know as I will quit buying the Swami stuff, if others have access to it, and I can get it for nothing ???? Im all for that.

Just like some got mad a Hazeman for making money off of the G13 x 88 Hashplant, which were also Nevils original genes, given to Hazeman x NDNGuy.

Also for $50-$60 a pack, Hazeman was basically giving them away anyway, and if he needs to make money off of them, to keep them in his garden, so be it, at least the genes are getting to the public. I'm glad he did sell them as I wouldn't be able to get these genes any other way. I bought 10 packs, and am going to buy some more. I believe they are now discontinued, but some packs are still available. Or will be.

2 friends have the Swami

Blue Orca Haze

NL5/Hz going right now, and all of the plants are looking, and smelling great. 1 guys are about to be put into flower, or they may be already. I haven't spoken to 1 guy in a couple weeks, and plants are probably turned back by no now. The other guys are 3 weeks behind, and hes going to breed his, but took cuttings.

The Blue Orca Haze is a really, really nice looking, and smelling plant so far, and is very stout, medium height, slow growing at first, and then really takes off, but it grows very close internode spacings, with many, many branches.

BOH smells Incense, sandalwood, Frankincense, floral sweet. More high end Thai/Kandahar smell.

The NL5/Haze is very vigorous, and the fastest growing, but wider internode spacings. Very similar to Mr Nice Super Silver Haze, but even More Sativa Leaning. Better smell too, totally different smell than Mr Nice version. REEKS or cat pee, and floral

The G13/HP is also a really nice looking plant, and smells like Hash. Its also a fast growing, vigorous plant, and much bigger than most 100% Indicas. Cant wait to try some NL5HZ x G13/HP.

I'm mainly after the 80s Genes that Nevil had, and the Blue Orca crosses, and others, for me, are just icing on the cake.

I also have some Heirloom NL1 x PNK Hashplant, and is the same genes Nevil had to create his NL1/Hashplant, and Hashplant.

My quest is for a strain I had in the 90s that was a cross of Nevils 88 NL5 x HAZE x NL1 x PNW HP x Skunk.

I can forgo the Skunk in the quest for just the NL5/HZ, and the NL1 x HP. Those were the building blocks of my strain.

Although. Swami will have the IBL 1985 Road Kill Skunk in the Spring.

But some think I'm trying to just sell Swamis stuff, and I'm not. I just know how good these original genes were. Ive been smoking for 50 years, and these are the best genes Ive found in all of my years. YMMV. But if I can find my old stuff, I lost. I will be happy.

Thanks for the info and I am one who thinks that you are pushing his gear with that said where are you getting this info from? How do we know that he got his genetics from Clackamas coot or Greengenes. Tbh it sounds like a lot of speculation on your end. From reading your post it sounds like you have yet to finish a grow of his gear. Now once again I'm not trying to start shit or anything just want facts n not opinions to many hyped up breeders as is n I just want to drop any more cash on BS breeders.
 

jimihendrix1

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Swami has also been a judge at the Emerald Cupp since 1992.

Believe what you want. Swami is the real deal guy.

And its well known by many, that COOT, and Swami used to be friends, and COOT gave all of his genetics to Swami when he got sick around 2011.

COOT, and GASCANISTAN ( GAS) used to come on the forums, and talk about organic farming, and all kinds of other stuff.
I GUESSS YOU DONT KNOW THAT? Its well known that COOT, and Swami were In CAHOOTS before a falling out ????

Its well know dude. Not just me, and there are others that grow this gear, and have made crosses of it.

Mountainorganics, also hs the COOT Genes but does different crosses, and dot offer the oure NL5/Hz, but they offer plenty of crosses of it.

Also, Ive been growing long enough to know quality smelling, and growing weed when I see it.

My NOSE, KNOWS what I'm looking for. Ive been growing since 1972, and I know what smell I'm looking for, and that process has yet to fail me.

DJ Short, and Nevil BOTH say they also realy heavily on their noses.

And I have Smelled, and seen the plants, and it wont be long before I test the product, and if its shit, Ill tell you, as I would ditch mine in a second if it was going to turn out to be crap. But I can tell right now from the smell, that these strains.. G13/HP incl, have the smell, I'm smelling for, and will be very above average.

I also know people on other forums, that Have grown this stuff, have given smoke reports, and

They have been part of the Emerald Cup since its inception.

I could really care less if you, or anyone else buys the seeds.

I also recommend many other Breeders.

Bodhi

Hazeman

Coastal Seeds Company

Vashon Island Seeds

Mr Nice.. Of which Ive ben growing Super Silver Haze for 3 years, and Critical Mass for over 2.

Ive also been growing the Original Barneys Farm G13 x Haze Regulars. 8 Years for this 1 ) Non Fem. I don't do Fems.

Reeferman Willie Nelson. Nepali Hashplant Pheno. Have had this since 2005. My 2 buddies running the current Swami stuff, keep the original Mother/Male. This is also really good stuff, with a tremendous yield.

Brothers Grimm C99



Also hes ya a shot of Swami, and his Woman at the Emerald Cup.

Swami is also a Real Swami, and has been since 71 or so, and is from New Zealand.







 

bobdagrowah

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Will semi have the road kill burnt rubber smelling skunk if so that would be so dope if he could cross it to that acid leaning phen O of nl5xnh
 

jimihendrix1

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While I have 50 seeds of the BO X RKS Guadalajara I cant say if theyre RKS type, but I don't see how there wont be RKS phenos, and is 1 reason I bought them.

Swami will have the pure IBL RKS Guadalajara in the Spring.

He did do a cross of the RKS, and 85 clone only NL5, but the pollen didn't take. I really wanted that 1 too. Hopefully he'll try again.
 
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kona gold

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Swami has also been a judge at the Emerald Cupp since 1992.

Believe what you want. Swami is the real deal guy.

And its well known by many, that COOT, and Swami used to be friends, and COOT gave all of his genetics to Swami when he got sick around 2011.

COOT, and GASCANISTAN ( GAS) used to come on the forums, and talk about organic farming, and all kinds of other stuff.
I GUESSS YOU DONT KNOW THAT? Its well known that COOT, and Swami were In CAHOOTS before a falling out ????

Its well know dude. Not just me, and there are others that grow this gear, and have made crosses of it.

Mountainorganics, also hs the COOT Genes but does different crosses, and dot offer the oure NL5/Hz, but they offer plenty of crosses of it.

Also, Ive been growing long enough to know quality smelling, and growing weed when I see it.

My NOSE, KNOWS what I'm looking for. Ive been growing since 1972, and I know what smell I'm looking for, and that process has yet to fail me.

DJ Short, and Nevil BOTH say they also realy heavily on their noses.

And I have Smelled, and seen the plants, and it wont be long before I test the product, and if its shit, Ill tell you, as I would ditch mine in a second if it was going to turn out to be crap. But I can tell right now from the smell, that these strains.. G13/HP incl, have the smell, I'm smelling for, and will be very above average.

I also know people on other forums, that Have grown this stuff, have given smoke reports, and

They have been part of the Emerald Cup since its inception.

I could really care less if you, or anyone else buys the seeds.

I also recommend many other Breeders.

Bodhi

Hazeman

Coastal Seeds Company

Vashon Island Seeds

Mr Nice.. Of which Ive ben growing Super Silver Haze for 3 years, and Critical Mass for over 2.

Ive also been growing the Original Barneys Farm G13 x Haze Regulars. 8 Years for this 1 ) Non Fem. I don't do Fems.

Reeferman Willie Nelson. Nepali Hashplant Pheno. Have had this since 2005. My 2 buddies running the current Swami stuff, keep the original Mother/Male. This is also really good stuff, with a tremendous yield.

Brothers Grimm C99



Also hes ya a shot of Swami, and his Woman at the Emerald Cup.

Swami is also a Real Swami, and has been since 71 or so, and is from New Zealand.







Awesome!!!
I was hoping it was this guy behind the seeds!!!
 

Bringdemfya

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Heavy duty...judy.

Hi kids,Gas here....

I am here to correct any genetic historical information and or corrections in the rumor mill.

First off,we love you people,but I am not that fucking swami guy with a bindi and white robe on vice.
That cat bought my Cherry Bomb,bred it and was releasing beans for a minute under the 1979 'Muai Wowie' tone..as well as the flower.

This caused massive confusion and I have since spoke with that team of individuals (swami select) on that particular shadowing coat tail effect from our living soil and coot days..and cherry bomb. They no longer offer the beans AFAIK...but people still think I'm that guy.
I am not.

I am a real cannabis breeder and life long participant and grower in the underground PNW cannabis world. I am 50 years old. I smoke living organic soil flower only. I consider this journey my life's blessing.
I am a deadhead...many grateful dead shows in the late 80s up until jerry died in 95.

I was recently contacted by Mr GreenGenes,as you may know there were rumors of his death. Well,he is very much alive and very pleased that I have kept the original Cherry Bomb in good hands,as he no longer has it.

He has since gifted me the line,and I of course am grateful. We have shared and will continue to share genetics in good faith and friendship.

Dunno what happened with coot,he had a heart attack and fell ill..we lost contact,misinformation and rumor led the parade as usual...as well as those who also sought to make good off our little interruption in the mainstream cannibal-cannabis industry.

We had our own private living organic soil forum for a number of years. It became redundant,as living soil methodology is a sustainable practice. Your grow problems go away..leaving not much to talk about we recently 'shut'er down' due to a lack of funding.

I am an active breeder,I breed constantly. I have many projects and lines I work all the time. My favorite aspect of breeding is bringing out the old landrace characteristics lost in modern polyhybrids.

The nl5haze has indeed been brought to f5. I see no issues in this now IBL as far as a line. It continues to exhibit the traits I selected in the previous generations. I have culled mutants,intersex,and excessively mold susceptible weakling from the line. It has shown increased PM resistance following these principles.
No,I do not enjoy the smoke. I will smoke anything on earth as far as flower with no fear..but it's just a bit much for me. The original warning remains in effect.

Blue Orca Haze is a good clean up job on the rattling effect of nl5haze.
My favorite pre-noon smoke.

I have my own favorites from my lines. Currently 'The Bliss' (Blue Orca x The Black/NL5haze) is my fave afternoon. These are similar to 91 Chemdog type phenotypes,only with a more fuller and longer lasting character in the high. Everyone who puffs my keeper cut exclaims it to be one of the best effects out there today. There is a green and purple phenotype both can be equally devastating..

Recent encounter with the family that bred 'The Black'..it is indeed a Hawaiian and Himalayain..with 90% indica character...adds that fat old indy boost to the other fat old indies quite nicely producing a high cbd/CBN that rock's the dome very well.
Of course there is also The One x The Black/ NL5haze as well.

Anyway,the other types are equally interesting or I wouldn't offer them.
It's all about the medicine and doing things for the future generations of human being.
People over profit,yet my kids have to eat too. There is balance to be held in that reality.
I am not a swami,but I am in an hightened state of mind from cannabis most my days...shama lama bing bang.

Mountain Organics was given The One x NL5haze beans from coot.
Mountain Organics grew out my Nigerian Sunshine F1s..he favored two cuts. After me and another well known grower grew the cuts we rejected them after one run,as my selections and subsequent Nigerian Sunshine line surpass those phenotypes in all areas.
The couple 'The One × nl5haze' he selected fell all over themselves..a structural mess.
This guy is not a breeder.

Moving on..

The 1985 Humboldt Roadkill Skunk x Mexican hybrid (Uraipan region..nearish Guadalajara)
is indeed a IBl. The beans were brought from Humboldt to the region in 1985 given to the natives..and they ran with it. Fats forward to today..and we have a grip of seeds from the result to work with.
The male that did the damage on CB,BO,TO,and Purple Zebra was the absolutely thee fattest male I have ever seen..a monster.


So much more in the works as well..

Working with Brown Dirt Warriors Pakistan x Chocolate Thai breeding stock and have indeed produced some hybrids with The One and The One x Panama...(my Panama).

A well bred line from old imports,brown dirt warrior did a decent job on the paki x choco thai.
lovely old chocolate thai phenos with a nice paki line popping out. I did IBL it but will not release the line for profit out of respect for my fellow breeder.
The poly F1s with The One as a mother should be pretty special..look for those available sometime next year..

No, don't ask me for cuts..of anything!. ..please and thank you.
The cuts I do pass around are available in Grants Pass...from the right sources.

I find it extremendously important that some these lines see the next generations of ethical breeders after me.

I encourage you to experiment with breeding these types to whatever types you see fit. I only ask that my work not be reproduced without permission.

For example...,
Coot asked me to NOT breed The One x NL5haze until he's expired..so then I will. This breeding has been attempted up to 30 times in the last 30 years..with unsatisfied results. I'll give it a shot when the time comes.

The donations for seed mainly go to supporting the environment to fulfill these breedings,but honestly I have yet to pay a full months rent with donations. My two little girls certainly see simple additions to their life from your generosity.

I will do this forever,and I am looking for an apprentice. Many are called,none are chosen. Good ol'merica not producing the passion these days.
Neville used to have an 'eye' along with the nose.. most real breeders do. After looking at thousands upon thousands of plants,a feller can often, on the spot identify origin in any flower handed to he..cept hardcore bottled nute schwilly dispensary nug.

Anywayyyyyyyyy,...
Nigerian Sunshine sold out. It has since found a home in the Afghanistan and Iraq war veterans who suffer from ptsd,as well as others who have not gone into the military. It is a well bred polyhybrid IBL now..love this thing. Beans will be available be again next year.

Kahuna Bud x Cherry Bomb also sold out..no plans on working this line soon enough.

Velvet Rush..unavailable to public

Panama..unavailable to public

Guerrero..unavailable to public

Blue Orca..unavailable to public

The One..unavailable to public

Durban Bubble..cut only..it's out there and surpasses everything around it.

Swami'seed Nigerian Sunshine cut...another beast..it's out there.

Mazar x Guerrero..the 'cann' cut..a true homozygous f1 hybrid from hell...this cut is out there.
..destroys many types.
Mazar x Guerrero F2 beans available from Cann mom..

1986 Northern Lights #5 cut.. those in the know know this...it's out there man...rare,but there~
The path remains endless..as does the work.

oh...and eventually ended up with some tribal Africans from the congo..collected by a dude who went to the Transkei region and a Pweto village.....
So we have The One x Tribal African to play with too..

Thanking this guy jimihendrix1 for the props..interesting becuase I don't even know the guy but through a few small donations to the cause.

Bless up!
 
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Bringdemfya

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...also,there seems to be a number of seed types that did not germinate from the Firstax package that went across the pond a couple years ago. The types were viable when they left my hands.
Suspected poor handling,possibly left in a 140 degree car?..no clue.

I have since ceased working with firstax or any other UK distributor.

I find the cost of business with foreign distributors to be dishonest,problematic and explotive.
Gas
 

jimihendrix1

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Ive had all but 100% germ rates with mine. Out of 110, and several different strains, ( Blue Orca Haze, BO X RKS, Velvet Rush x NL5/Hz, BO x PCK, 104 came up. Maybe 15% slow growing, or mutant. Am very very happy with the strength, and vigor of the plants. Mine are 3 weeks old.

2 friends have NL5/HZ, and BOH in early mid bloom flowering, and theyre so frosted its scary. Especially considering they still have 30+ days to go.:hump::shock:. Its really stinking too... BOH...Different smell with overtones of fuel/skunk and sandalwood incense, but also seemingly changes some from lights on, lights off. But either way both strains are some stinky shit. Very complex smell. Has very deep undertones of something exotic in the smell on BOH. Thai/Kandahar??

Also the NL5/Hz is no less of a plant. 1 guy got a pheno that has maybe only 1/2 inch space between nodes, really complex branching, and is also a fast growing, larger size plant.:shock: . This plant is still vegging, and cuts will be taken before flowering. BOH has been cloned, and more will go into flowering in 2 weeks.

Another guy ( I bought all the seeds for these guys. We're pheno hunting these strains. ) has 1 that has baseball bat buds. Very long, and huge production. Very Frosted, and reeks of fuel, and incense, but plant wise, this wasn't even the best plant, and is a tremendous plant structurally.

The better looking plant in veg, would never show after 3 months veg:o:o, so put it in 12 hours, it showed Female, He put it under 24 hours, and has taken 30 cuts. All took. BOH, and NL5/Hz also clone very easily, and start growing, as soon as they have any kind of a root. Again. Highly impressed with the Vigor of both these strains.

This is a HUGE PLANT, and was the fastest growing out ( 80 Plants ) of every plant. Very close internode spacing.. 1 inch, and even more complex branching pattern than the 1 in flower. Fast growing. Strong Plant. Both are really strong stalk and branch wise. So if you want to train them, you have to start early, or they will never conform.

I'm looking forward to smoking the NL5/Hz.

While Ive never smoked it in its orignal form, the best stuff Ive had since the 70s was Nevils original NL5/Hz Crossed with a Nevils NL1/Hashplant Male bx into PNW HP Mother, then crossed with a Male RKS/Sk1.

It still could have come with the original warning, as a lot of people didn't like it, and swore I put something in it. But it tasted of the best hash you could ever hope for. Very lung busting, and cerebral buzz, but with the effect that youre so fucked up, you aint goin nowhere. Every hit would give you a headrush, and was unsafe to even think about operation of a motorized vehicle. :hump::hump: Havent seen anything like it since 97.
 

newgrow16

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I got ratted out by my partner in 97, and did 5 years in Federal Prison, and 8.5 Years Supervised Release. He was 70, I was 40. I'm almost 59. A couple more months. I had more supervised release than anyone at the prison.

Bank Robbers only got 3 years supervised release. I got 8.5.

He got 0 time.

Feds got my stuff.

I had 1000 clones. Gave 500 to my partner to grow on his 2000 acre farm.

Mine was a Mandatory Minimum, of 10-Life, and a $3,000,000-$5,000,000 fine.. With Prison Time, and Supervised Release, I got 13.5 years, and they waived the fine.
Stupid war on drugs created Mexican druglords only.
 

yesum

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Glad you could drop in GAS. Clears up a lot including the charge that hendrix was your shill. He did not know you were not the guy in the video rocking the robe.

Not real clear from this post where you stand with Mountain Organics, but I take it together with your email to me as not positive. I will stay clear of them but will run the one strain I have from them. They were claiming Coot gave them seeds and cuts which he denies.

I take it the unavailable strains are the cuts not seeds. I have one BOH just into flower and am quite interested in what the Velvet Rush holds. Supposed to be more sativa leaning according to MO.
 

Bringdemfya

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Coot gave mountain organics beans..coot gave me TO x NL5/Haze cuts from a breeding he did years ago. From the same seed group.
I did TO x BO/nl5haze and called it 'Coots grail'...there was some confusion on the forums about who had what. Not sure if that ever got figured out.
The supposed 'Aculpulco Gold' cut has no known origin. It looks like a polyhybrid to a modern type..as I have access to the cut here in the PNW.

The Velvet Rush is like F8 by now....
After Mel Frank gave coot the beans in 86..the BOEL ran them in the hills of San clemente for 5 or so years. It was a success in that it was the best herb around at that time. They were 20ft tall and exhibited every color in the rainbow.

Clearly the BOEL ran down a different line with the full season outdoor than did DJ to create Juicy Fruit from the line...and eventually Blueberry.
 

yesum

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Yeah, I had my doubts when I saw the Maya or Acapulco Gold x The OneVelvetRush buds. They are dense as hell and no leaves to speak of. I doubt that any Mexican bud in 1968 looked like that.

I guess you are implying the Velvet Rush is getting played out by the f8 thing? Have a Panama Red and Acapulco Gold from Snowhigh running now. He is legit if anyone is. Guessing you have bumped into him as he is a heirloom lover and was around for the hippie stuff from sixties into seventies.
 

Bringdemfya

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I support snow fer sure. We never seem to hook up long in conversation,I know he has health issues,and I kids.

Velvet Rush is an IBL....it expresses the Highland Blue Thai,and it expresss the Afghanistan. I like Thai,so I definitely favored those. I breed the line as an IBL still..keeping both expressions present. This is indeed a landrace hybrid.
 

Bringdemfya

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Wut up...Swami Organic Seed is on Facebook. Attempting to gather those who are engaged in our gear on the facebook platform for information and photo purposes. We will have promotional events,merchandise,(T's,hat's,hoodies,stickers,space balls the coffee mug,etc),and of course the active seed list is located there as well.
Peace,
Gas
 

newgrow16

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IMAG00017.jpg IMAG00021.jpg 12 for 12 with seeds popping. Struggling with soil, bought baby bu and used straight out of sack. Heat issue at turn, turned too early, and one BOH popped two male ball sacks, opened with fan blasting. Found and removed but I seem to be growing a few seeds. Never have spotted any other male pods on any of my small six plants. Looks like cherry bomb has a few big seeds bursting out of pistil. Cherry bomb x boh females?
 
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Bringdemfya

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Sounds like severe stress caused intersex...as I recently ran through 30 females with zero issues...got 4 keepers.

1 part peat moss
1 part high quality compost
1 part pumice or perlite

Cherry Bomb x BOH may have something...feminized by stress..that's how ya do it.

1 cup fish meal per cubic foot
1 cup kelp meal per cubic foot
1 cup basalt rock dust per cubic foot
1 cup oyster shell powder cubic foot

That's it,use forever,re ammed with same or like food sources.
Do not use bottled nutes,or chlorinated water.
 

jimihendrix1

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Hey Gas.

Can you tell me the Growth Characteristics, Production, and High of the BLISS, YOGI vs the Blue Orca Haze.

Which produces the best, and which is the most potent?? Fastest growing? Flowering Time???
What is the taste of the Bliss/Yogi?

Which 1 would you smoke, and then not go out in public?:weed::shock::fire::weed:

Im also Really, Really interested in the NL5 x Hz, and my buddies also have it going, and the plants look killer from what they tell me. Really nice. Should be done before Christmas.

Also. Now since you've said the Bliss, is your fav daytime smoke,:cuss::cuss::cuss: I'm going to have to order a pack of them very soon.:cuss::cuss::cuss::weed::weed:

Also probably Yogi. It would be nice to have a full report on them.:weed::weed:
 
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