Democratic Senator, Dick Durban: 'We Should Appeal To The Center'

[UncleBuck]

Sry, howbout this one?

that looks like the guy who voted to dump toxic waste in hispanic neighborhoods.

 

[Fogdog]

Rather than just attacking them personally. I think attacking them personally actually weakens our own arguments since said attacks aren't focused on the actual arguments that they provide. Rather, they're focused on personal biases, personal attacks, emotion, and appeals to ignorance..

Nazis and KKK show up to do violence. They did in Berkeley this spring and they did in Charlottesville this summer. To some, shouting Nazi slogans in your face is hate speech. You listen to too much right wing radio bs. People defended themselves from those haters. I see nothing wrong with that. If police can cordon off the two sides then nothing will happen. In both cases, the Nazis deliberately avoided police cordons.

 

[Fogdog]

Sry, howbout this one?

LOL, Sanders didn't do much protesting back then. The one large event where he just showed up was at the MLK march in Washington, not the march on Washington. He participated a few anti segregation protests in 1961-1963.

Too funny that you white boys keep touting him as "having done more than Clinton". He did not. No major activists of the day remember him. Since 1963, he's been a good white boy and stuck to the white crowd where he obviously is more comfortable. I'm not saying what he "should" do I'm just saying you have to look hard to find anything about his activism regarding civil rights.

You, sir have no credibility on this anyway. Just leave it and criticize SJW. That's more your bag you white racist liberal.


http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/02/bernie-sanders-core-university-chicago/

 

[Padawanbater2]

Nazis and KKK show up to do violence.

If anyone shows up with the explicit objective of committing violence against innocent people for any reason, IT IS WRONG

Do you agree or disagree?

They did in Berkeley this spring and they did in Charlottesville this summer.

Both of which should be strongly condemned to the highest degree

To some, shouting Nazi slogans in your face is hate speech.

So some, shouting many things is "hate speech". What's your point?

 

[Padawanbater2]

you white boys

he's been a good white boy and stuck to the white crowd where he obviously is more comfortable.

That's not racist though

you black boys

he's been a good black boy and stuck to the black crowd where he obviously is more comfortable

 

[UncleBuck]

So some, shouting many things is "hate speech". What's your point?

i'm glad you will be there to defend nazis as they shout that my wife should be in an oven.

#ALLY

 

[Fogdog]

If anyone shows up with the explicit objective of committing violence against innocent people for any reason, IT IS WRONG

Do you agree or disagree?

Both of which should be strongly condemned to the highest degree

So some, shouting many things is "hate speech". What's your point?

I'm not going to be led by your questions. At Berkeley and Charlottesville, Nazis and KKK showed up to do violence and they avoided police cordons. If people leave weapons at home or police confiscates them and a police cordon keeps people separate, I don't care what people think, peace will be kept.

Shouting Nazi slogans into a person's face or at a group of people can be considered fighting words and is a perfectly good reason fight with them.

 

[Fogdog]

That's not racist though

you black boys

he's been a good black boy and stuck to the black crowd where he obviously is more comfortable

Totally not racist to call you a white boy. By definition it is not racist.

 

[Padawanbater2]

At Berkeley and Charlottesville, Nazis and KKK showed up to do violence and they avoided police cordons.

Like I just said, and I bolded in text; IF ANYBODY COMES IN WITH THE EXPLICIT OBJECTIVE OF COMMITTING VIOLENCE, THEY ARE WRONG

Do you agree/disagree?

 

[Padawanbater2]

Totally not racist to call you a white boy. By definition it is not racist.

Is it racist if I call someone who is of African American descent a "black boy"? Or someone who is of Latin American descent a "brown boy"? Or someone who is of Asian American descent a "yellow boy"? Or someone who is of Native American descent a "red boy"?

 

[Fogdog]

Like I just said, and I bolded in text; IF ANYBODY COMES IN WITH THE EXPLICIT OBJECTIVE OF COMMITTING VIOLENCE, THEY ARE WRONG

Do you agree/disagree?

What? are you going to ask people what their objectives are? How will you know what they are answering truthfully? There again, you claim to be able to read somebody's thoughts. I don't care what people think, in their heart they can be murderous assholes intent on violence. What people think is not as important as what they do or say. I just want a peaceful assembly. Isn't that what's important?

 

[Fogdog]

Is it racist if I call someone who is of African American descent a "black boy"? Or someone who is of Latin American descent a "brown boy"? Or someone who is of Asian American descent a "yellow boy"? Or someone who is of Native American descent a "red boy"?

The disagreement is whether or not it is racist to call young Sanders a white boy. It is not racist. You might find it offensive but it's not racist.

You, on the other hand are using racist language in your posts. Stop it. You clearly don't understand the real meaning of your words.

 

[UncleBuck]

Like I just said, and I bolded in text; IF ANYBODY COMES IN WITH THE EXPLICIT OBJECTIVE OF COMMITTING VIOLENCE, THEY ARE WRONG

Do you agree/disagree?

what part of "fascism and nazism are inherently violent ideologies" do you not get, padaraper?

you gonna wait until they decide they want to put you in an oven or ethnically cleanse your family?

 

[Padawanbater2]

What? are you going to ask people what their objectives are? How will you know what they are answering truthfully? There again, you claim to be able to read somebody's thoughts. I don't care what people think, in their heart they can be murderous assholes intent on violence. What people think is not as important as what they do or say. I just want a peaceful assembly. Isn't that what's important?

I just asked you a direct question:

IF ANYBODY COMES IN WITH THE EXPLICIT OBJECTIVE OF COMMITTING VIOLENCE, THEY ARE WRONG

DO YOU AGREE OR DISAGREE?

 

[Fogdog]

I just asked you a direct question:

IF ANYBODY COMES IN WITH THE EXPLICIT OBJECTIVE OF COMMITTING VIOLENCE, THEY ARE WRONG

DO YOU AGREE OR DISAGREE?

I disagree. If they don't cause violence I don't care what their objective was coming into the assembly. I also won't condemn somebody who starts a fight when Nazi slogans were shouted at them because those are fighting words. I condemn any violence Nazis might cause because Nazi speech and symbols are fighting words. The difference is that Nazis aren't assembling to redress grievances, they are rallying in the cause to allow legalized violence on others or to take people's right away.

 

[ttystikk]

I disagree. If they don't cause violence I don't care what their objective was coming into the assembly. I also won't condemn somebody who starts a fight when Nazi slogans were shouted at them because those are fighting words. I condemn any violence Nazis might cause because Nazi speech and symbols are fighting words. The difference is that Nazis aren't assembling to redress grievances, they are rallying in the cause to allow legalized violence on others or to take people's right away.

Funny how no one complains when Baptists do the same thing.

 

[Fogdog]

Funny how no one complains when Baptists do the same thing.

I haven't heard Baptists talk about putting Jews in ovens. Or cleansing the country of black people.

No argument that southern baptists are extremely racist but I haven't seen them parade with symbols of white power under the Babtist banner. Have you? History and context matter too.

If Baptists are a fascist political movement, like Nazis and KKK and alt.right or other violent white supremacist gangs are, I'd like to know.

 

[SneekyNinja]

I haven't heard Baptists talk about putting Jews in ovens. Or cleansing the country of black people.

No argument that southern baptists are extremely racist but I haven't seen them parade with symbols of white power under the Babtist banner. Have you? History and context matter too.

If Baptists are a fascist political movement, like Nazis and KKK and alt.right or other violent white supremacist gangs are, I'd like to know.

Lol, Baptists are the same as Nazis according to tty...

And he wonders why people think(know) he's fucking retarded?

 

[Fogdog]

Lol, Baptists are the same as Nazis according to tty...

And he wonders why people think(know) he's fucking retarded?

Yeah, anything can be expected to come out of his posts.

Baptists say the same as Nazis. Like the Baptist church that was bombed by a klansman in Birmingham, 1963.

Would you say that he's degraded in mental capability over the past years? He seems to be more demented than earlier. But I haven't been posting here as long as others and have a smaller sample size.

 

[SneekyNinja]

Yeah, anything can be expected to come out of his posts.

Baptists say the same as Nazis. Like the Baptist church that was bombed by a klansman in Birmingham, 1963.

Would you say that he's degraded in mental capability over the past years? He seems to be more demented than earlier. But I haven't been posting here as long as others and have a smaller sample size.

I'm only here about a year and a half-ish so you probsbly know more than I do.

I didn't know him before but I think he's either a sneaky Republican hidden in plain sight or a useful idiot (...which I'd argue is far worse).