New to LED..couple questions

[burnpile]

It only looks like that if you ignore every other word I wrote. Geez your thick in the head. I don't consider meth to be good shit.

You know nothing about me, lighten up.

Just want to add I never insulted anyone, thats not my m.o.

 

[GreenLogician]

Lite and friends - how do those blurple cobs compare to white cobs like the popular cxb3950s?

 

[Lite]

Maybe you should sub my grow journal and we will find out

 

[Dave455]

"the kind of weed we would all like to consume" refers to quality. There is no light being built on these forums or by Timber, HLG or any other vendor that grows a better 'quality' of weed than Kind LED or even Mars for that matter. Photons are photons. The "weed we would all like to consume" is grown through great genetics and grow skills, not your light.

One other thing, if someone was "following the crowd" they would be using a Kind LED. There are probably thousands upon thousands more Kind LED lights being used than there are cob lights or QB's.
There is nothing wrong with using Kind LED, Fluence or any other light manufacturer other than some offer a better value for the money. For example certain lights use better components that will last longer, be more efficient and have better warranties.

Shows you how some companies made a killing before some of the new white came along offered by Timber, HLG, etc.

 

[Dave455]

What I said is not wrong in any way. Anybody growing weed will use a light that is meant for growing weed. Nobody is going to go out and buy incandescent bulbs for growing weed right? The reason that our lights are the least important part of our grow (for quality) is because all growers use lights that have most of the spectrum we require to grow our plants.

This isn't about 'how much' weed a light will grow, it's about quality. Your light will not make a difference on the quality of your bud. You can and will get great bud from any of the light technologies. The limiting factors are your genetics and your growing skills. PHOTONS ARE PHOTONS.
If you give identical plants the same amount of photons from cfl's, t5's, cobs, strips or hid's, you'll get basically identical quality bud every single time. Which is why I will say it again, photons are photons.

Thats where t5's, cfl are limited ....They cannot provide enough photons like quantums/cobs...correct ?

 

[Budies 101]

What I said is not wrong in any way. Anybody growing weed will use a light that is meant for growing weed. Nobody is going to go out and buy incandescent bulbs for growing weed right? The reason that our lights are the least important part of our grow (for quality) is because all growers use lights that have most of the spectrum we require to grow our plants.

This isn't about 'how much' weed a light will grow, it's about quality. Your light will not make a difference on the quality of your bud. You can and will get great bud from any of the light technologies. The limiting factors are your genetics and your growing skills. PHOTONS ARE PHOTONS.
If you give identical plants the same amount of photons from cfl's, t5's, cobs, strips or hid's, you'll get basically identical quality bud every single time. Which is why I will say it again, photons are photons.

Yes but some lights are better at creating light for the plant than others... You can buy a cheap light but you get far less growability with that light VS a high end led or HPS or whatever light.

I'm not sure why this is being debated, photons are photons, sure, ok... But it's about taking the watt from the wall and creating usable light by the plant, efficiently... You can buy a 200watt "crap" led and a 200watt high end 200watt lm561c led light and one will turn more of the watts into light that grows plants and the other will create less light for growth and instead create more heat.

I built my first led lights in the same grow that I bought some platinum led lights... The difference is huge... No one would be growing with PCB's or 3590's if 3-5$ blurple cobs did just as good. You're argument suggests that a 160$ Phillips DE is going to grow the same as a 30$ no name DE light bulb. No... Or we would all be growing with 150$ lights with no reason to ever change, but people want better quality, so we use better tools to get there.

Maybe I'm wrong =)

 

[Danielson999]

Yes but some lights are better at creating light for the plant than others... You can buy a cheap light but you get far less growability with that light VS a high end led or HPS or whatever light.

I'm not sure why this is being debated, photons are photons, sure, ok... But it's about taking the watt from the wall and creating usable light by the plant, efficiently... You can buy a 200watt "crap" led and a 200watt high end 200watt lm561c led light and one will turn more of the watts into light that grows plants and the other will create less light for growth and instead create more heat.

I built my first led lights in the same grow that I bought some platinum led lights... The difference is huge... No one would be growing with PCB's or 3590's if 3-5$ blurple cobs did just as good. You're argument suggests that a 160$ Phillips DE is going to grow the same as a 30$ no name DE light bulb. No... Or we would all be growing with 150$ lights with no reason to ever change, but people want better quality, so we use better tools to get there.

Maybe I'm wrong =)

Yes you're wrong but only in your assumption of what I was saying.

Yeah efficiency is everything but that's an entirely different conversation. Someone stated that if a person wanted to grow quality weed then he should not buy a Kind LED. Just pointed out how silly that is to say.

I'm all for new tech. I love my strips and cobs and I like making my grow as efficient as possible which is why I DIY.

 

[Danielson999]

Shows you how some companies made a killing before some of the new white came along offered by Timber, HLG, etc.

Those companies are still making a killing. Timber, HLG and all the other small companies combined don't even put a tiny dent in the overall grow light market.

 

[dandyrandy]

Bout a pound

 

[nfhiggs]

Bout a pound

Two more weeks.

 

[Rolla J]

What's the size of your grow tent?

 

[burnpile]

Here is what I have grown so far, I'm definitely a rookie with indoor. This run (3rd) had excessive heat, looks like foxtailing?. pineapple chunk. You can see there is a 200w +- cob light I designed at the far end and a 120w +- led bulb fixture I built near. Have a light mover on the kind. Half the fun is trying to make things.

 

[burnpile]

Here is my first try, candy land and 3x crazy, yield on this was 6 oz.

 

[burnpile]

second run. I tend to agree that the genetics play a huge role, not to say without light or nutrients it would matter. cookies kush and pineapple skunk, yield on this was 9 oz.

 

[burnpile]

Two more weeks.

Could be two and a day....I guess it's an inside joke.

 

[SAMMYB913]

And you say I'm talking junk......

My friend grew 4 strains w/ Kind 1000 & a 1000 w cool tube comparison , nice 6 foot beauties & it was all killer & giant nugs, he liked em so much he bought 2 more Kind 1000 but that's the difference between being able to afford it or not , from what I understand Black Dog is the top of the line if you have $2000-$3000 to drop on a light.

 

[Stone_Free]

My friend grew 4 strains w/ Kind 1000 & a 1000 w cool tube comparison , nice 6 foot beauties & it was all killer & giant nugs, he liked em so much he bought 2 more Kind 1000 but that's the difference between being able to afford it or not , from what I understand Black Dog is the top of the line if you have $2000-$3000 to drop on a light.

Yeah perhaps.....the point I was trying to get over is that if a person wants to know what light they should use then they can look at what the growers here are using and use the same.There's no need to spend $2-3k on a light. The quality of the grows with, for example, HLG or Samsung/Bridgelux strips proves this. Either of those options will cost considerably less than $2-3k and assuming the genetics/growers skill are good then the result will be very good too.

 

[SAMMYB913]

Yeah perhaps.....the point I was trying to get over is that if a person wants to know what light they should use then they can look at what the growers here are using and use the same.There's no need to spend $2-3k on a light. The quality of the grows with, for example, HLG or Samsung/Bridgelux strips proves this. Either of those options will cost considerably less than $2-3k and assuming the genetics/growers skill are good then the result will be very good too.

you get what you pay for ,usually you buy cheap get cheap , as long as it has quality parts thats all that should matters no matter what you choose to run cool tube, led or cfl

 

[jewsh808]

Will the KIND grow dank??? Sure it will, and if you just want to get a plug and play option then go for it.
BUT, if you are like alot of folks who want to get the biggest bang for each of my hard earned dollars, then there are many other options that will annihilate the KIND in performance/$. Plenty of threads with all types of DIY fixtures and results-EXPLORE THEM.

I just run a simple veg and clone room at the moment and been wanting to bring my room temperature down...I'm looking to replace my 600w with digital ballast...as far as LED goes...I just want a quality LED that will replace my 600w