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twostrokenut

twostrokenut

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UncleBuck said:
"fiscally conservative" - lost his down payment and 10 years of mortgage payments on a house he couldn;t afford, moved into a trailer which will depreciate to $0.00

"socially liberal" - opposes civil rights laws because they would only serve to enrage racist whites
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PCXV

PCXV

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twostrokenut said:
because we don't have student loans and are fiscally conservative? dude I'm more socially liberal than you are I bet.
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There are plenty of people with student loans that are in the same group, education is mostly irrelevant. Austerity is a losing policy, so is reckless spending. We all only want to spend on what we see as essential. I highly doubt you are more socially liberal than I am. But that's my main point, it is hard to tell what any of your group's real opinions, morals, or values are because you are all so disingenuous and vague; it seems like you're just trolling. Empty platitudes and hardline anti-government rhetoric is all I read from you guys, no real solutions. The libertarian ideals lead to dystopia, not utopia. We will never save our way out of debt, we have to grow and adapt, change what needs changed to offer people a decent life. It's not so radical if you really think about it.
 
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twostrokenut

twostrokenut

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PCXV said:
There are plenty of people with student loans that are in the same group, education is mostly irrelevant. Austerity is a losing policy, so is reckless spending. We all only want to spend on what we see as essential. I highly doubt you are more socially liberal than I am. But that's my main point, it is hard to tell what any of your groups real opinions, morals, or values are because you are all so disingenuous and vague. Empyty platitudes is all I read from you guys, no real solutions, no humanity. The libertarian ideals lead to dystopia, not utopia. We will never save our way out of debt, we have to grow and adapt, change what needs changed to offer people a decent life. It's not so radical if you really think about it.
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so since the government doesn't have to balance it's checkbook like you have to at home, your solution is that everyone at home should get in on that action?

that's a perfectly mainstream opinion and I do get the logic.

and no, it's not radical, I agree. we have many many examples of that failing time and time again. even back in the day. thats why we banned the government from emitting bills of credit.
 
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UncleBuck

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twostrokenut said:
so since the government doesn't have to balance it's checkbook like you have to at home...
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i have a mortgage debt worth about 4 times what i make in a year.

the nation's total debt is not even twice as much as the nation makes in a year.

so even if we gave credence to your ridiculous and childish gop talking point notion about personal and government budgets operating in the same fashion, you'd still be fucking wronger than shit, like always.
 
PCXV

PCXV

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twostrokenut said:
so since the government doesn't have to balance it's checkbook like you have to at home, your solution is that everyone at home should get in on that action?

that's a perfectly mainstream opinion and I do get the logic.

and no, it's not radical, I agree. we have many many examples of that failing time and time again. even back in the day. thats why we banned the government from emitting bills of credit.
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No, I'm saying spending should be justified. The checkbook needs to be balanced unless we have no other choice aka the other choice will lead to bigger problems.

I don't think you really understand the function of the fed and our government's monetary policy. There may be an inherent problem to the monetary system, but I don't think you have it quite figured out. As far as deficits and the national debt, you should be on the Democrats' side as Republicans cut taxes no matter how the economy is or our expenses are which has put us in a hole time and time again.
 
twostrokenut

twostrokenut

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PCXV said:
No, I'm saying spending should be justified. The checkbook needs to be balanced unless we have no other choice aka the other choice will lead to bigger problems.

I don't think you really understand the function of the fed and our government's monetary policy. There may be an inherent problem to the monetary system, but I don't think you have it quite figured out. As far as deficits and the national debt, you should be on the Democrats' side as Republicans cut taxes no matter how the economy is or our expenses are which has put us in a hole time and time again.
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since currency is not property, and Americans have no capital; not capitalism is failing. label "not capitalism" anything you wish, it hardly matters. since we have contracted into not capitalism and into an unconstitutional monetary system, it's no surprise our wars are unconstitutional, is it?

is your biggest gripe not that war bucks are better spent at home? no one is listening because you can't vote with your wallet.

I'm afraid you don't understand how contracts work.
 
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UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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twostrokenut said:
since currency is not property, and Americans have no capital; not capitalism is failing. label "not capitalism" anything you wish, it hardly matters. since we have contracted into not capitalism and into an unconstitutional monetary system, it's no surprise our wars are unconstitutional, is it?

is your biggest gripe not that war bucks are better spent at home? no one is listening because you can't vote with your wallet.

I'm afraid you don't understand how contracts work.
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the shittiest of shitty takes here^^^^^
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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twostrokenut said:
yeah but that picture was from BEFORE 2011. which makes you a pedo, pedo.
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gonna need some proof of that, roy moore fanboi #1.

if you start a duplicate finshaggy facebook account and friend all of his friends and family like i did then you can probably get access to that photo.

i guess you think it is better to get 14 year olds drunk and take them out to the woods and fuck them, roy moore fanboi #1.
 
SneekyNinja

SneekyNinja

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twostrokenut said:
since currency is not property, and Americans have no capital; not capitalism is failing. label "not capitalism" anything you wish, it hardly matters. since we have contracted into not capitalism and into an unconstitutional monetary system, it's no surprise our wars are unconstitutional, is it?

is your biggest gripe not that war bucks are better spent at home? no one is listening because you can't vote with your wallet.

I'm afraid you don't understand how contracts work.
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